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4. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 25, 2016, 07:42 Bub
 
Society looks the other way when churches and other mostly non profit organizations hold raffles or run bingo games to raise money for a good cause.

Online games have sort of over the years eased into this territory with various forms of gambling, like selling "surprise/mystery boxes", i.e. chances to win something that can be traded for real cash.

If they get away with this, expect to see more of this to creep into all of your everyday commerce. Milk surprise boxes, 25 cents, but you have to buy 20 or 30 to actually get 1 milk and 29 empty boxes.
 
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3. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 24, 2016, 17:54 theglaze
 
HoSpanky wrote on Jun 24, 2016, 16:09:
As for the Valve / CSGO case, is THAT why the game is always a top seller? I had no clue there was a gambling subculture for it. The kid suing is now an adult, who is basically mad that he gambled and lost. He wouldn't have pushed for the case if he gambled and WON. It's not Valve's responsibility to police OTHER websites, especially if they're based in countries other than the US where they're based out of. The site may or may not have asked if he was 18. If it did, he lied. Hey, kiddo, time to learn real world consequences. I wonder how much he lost that he's trying to sue Valve, though.

Yes, there are several elements to CSGO (below) that create a culture of betting/gambling, and Valve makes money like a casino the whole way...Also, having multiple CSGO accounts means you increase your exposure to possible winnings.

1. Weapon Skin Drops – Random weapon skins will be handed out at the end of every official Valve game mode. These range in value from $0.02 to +$500, every user is guaranteed to receive at least 3 of those drops a week with ‘regular’ play. Anything greater than $1 is very rare, from my experience. Perhaps 1 out of 100 drops. Certain weapon skins can only be acquired this way. These can be sold on the market place.

2. Trade-Up Contracts – You can take 10 skins of similar condition and trade them up for 1 skin of the next condition, which can range in value and rarity.

3. Weapon Cases – Cases can also be dropped at the end of a match, but can only be opened with a $1.99 key bought from Valve. Opening a case will give you 1 skin and is revealed through a slot machine style graphic. Certain weapon skins can only be acquired this way.

4. Spectating – Spectating major tournaments gives you the chance to win items that are special to that tournament, including skins and weapon crates (bigger than cases because each one gives a skin to a certain number of random people in a server, when opened).

5. Tournament Betting - For major tournaments, stickers (which can be applied to guns) were made available for each team and player in the tournament. You then use the skins to wager on match outcomes and player results, essentially betting on the winners, with the chance to win more special skins. Successfully picking one of the top 3 teams for the tournament will also land you a pin which is permanently assigned to the CSGO account and can be displayed to other players.

6. 3rd Party Betting – That’s what this lawsuit is about. As you can see, Valve has created a gambling atmosphere with the game and it’s easy for youth, or anyone really, to jump to these sites for similar betting practices.
 
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2. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 24, 2016, 16:09 HoSpanky
 
Task wrote on Jun 24, 2016, 10:33:
Hey, Thanks Judge Kangaroo!

Ugh, it got pushed through because it's a child porn case. This is exactly the sort of thing the FBI's been looking for. They thought they had it with that stupid iPhone they wanted to get Apple to make a custom unlocker for. Cases like this are trotted out specifically so no one feels like THEIR privacy is compromised, just the privacy of those child-rapists! Nevermind what setting precedence like this does.


As for the Valve / CSGO case, is THAT why the game is always a top seller? I had no clue there was a gambling subculture for it. The kid suing is now an adult, who is basically mad that he gambled and lost. He wouldn't have pushed for the case if he gambled and WON. It's not Valve's responsibility to police OTHER websites, especially if they're based in countries other than the US where they're based out of. The site may or may not have asked if he was 18. If it did, he lied. Hey, kiddo, time to learn real world consequences. I wonder how much he lost that he's trying to sue Valve, though.
 
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1. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 24, 2016, 10:33 Task
 
Hey, Thanks Judge Kangaroo!  
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