Out of the Blue

I recently mentioned my project to season a new grate for one of my grills. Along the way I got a little obsessive about this after reading about success using flax seed oil on pans. One of the points of that method was more passes at seasoning, so I am trying that. I've currently coated it in shortening and cooked it five separate times (the flax oil sounds better suited to pans than grates). I have achieved a lacquer-like finish already. I will give it at least one more pass before I put it into service, and am hopeful that this extra effort will allow me to stave off rust better than the grate I had to replace.

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Re: GoT Non-Spoiler
Jun 22, 2016, 20:16
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 22, 2016, 10:58:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 22, 2016, 03:51:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:23:
Spektr wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:11:
The battle of Winterfell... it's not enough that the guys feel compelled to spoil their own series. Blue had to link it..

Blue, are you making people click links through telekinesis? Pretty sure that is against the webmaster guild code of conduct.

Sorry, but he's got a point. I haven't seen this season yet, and immediately thought "Wait, there's another battle at Winterfell?" So yeah, a title can be a spoiler.

Give me a break, it was all over the internet last week. Don't blame blue (it's obviously nins fault) because you can't avert your eyes when GoT is in the title. sheesh

Not mad at Blue. I'm saying spektr had a point. And no I didn't hear about it until now.
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Jun 22, 2016, 13:41
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MUGWUMP wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 22:12:
BobBob wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:16:
I envy that you can bbq and grill. The smoke gives me an asthma attack. I can't even be around a fireplace or campfire.

Wear a respirator. You can pretend you're grilling in a post-apocalyptic world.

Hahahaha.
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 22, 2016, 11:12:
BobBob wrote on Jun 22, 2016, 11:05:
Soap operas for adult men. Just like Mad Men. Reminds me of the reason I disliked high school and being a teenager so much. But I guess there is market to relive those melodramatic days.
Nothing beats soft porn hidden under the guise of Tits and Dragons.

You mean other than the real thing like being sexual with a spouse or gf/bf? Unless it's preferable to watch vs. participate?
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BobBob wrote on Jun 22, 2016, 11:05:
Soap operas for adult men. Just like Mad Men. Reminds me of the reason I disliked high school and being a teenager so much. But I guess there is market to relive those melodramatic days.
Nothing beats soft porn hidden under the guise of Tits and Dragons.
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Re: GoT Non-Spoiler
Jun 22, 2016, 11:05
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Re: GoT Non-Spoiler Jun 22, 2016, 11:05
Jun 22, 2016, 11:05
 
Soap operas for adult men. Just like Mad Men. Reminds me of the reason I disliked high school and being a teenager so much. But I guess there is market to relive those melodramatic days.
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GoT Non-Spoiler
Jun 22, 2016, 10:58
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Jun 22, 2016, 10:58
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 22, 2016, 03:51:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:23:
Spektr wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:11:
The battle of Winterfell... it's not enough that the guys feel compelled to spoil their own series. Blue had to link it..

Blue, are you making people click links through telekinesis? Pretty sure that is against the webmaster guild code of conduct.

Sorry, but he's got a point. I haven't seen this season yet, and immediately thought "Wait, there's another battle at Winterfell?" So yeah, a title can be a spoiler.

Give me a break, it was all over the internet last week. Don't blame blue (it's obviously nins fault) because you can't avert your eyes when GoT is in the title. sheesh
“We’ve arranged a society on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology, and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces." Carl Sagan
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 22, 2016, 03:51
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Jun 22, 2016, 03:51
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:23:
Spektr wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:11:
The battle of Winterfell... it's not enough that the guys feel compelled to spoil their own series. Blue had to link it..

Blue, are you making people click links through telekinesis? Pretty sure that is against the webmaster guild code of conduct.

Sorry, but he's got a point. I haven't seen this season yet, and immediately thought "Wait, there's another battle at Winterfell?" So yeah, a title can be a spoiler.
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Jun 21, 2016, 22:12
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BobBob wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:16:
I envy that you can bbq and grill. The smoke gives me an asthma attack. I can't even be around a fireplace or campfire.

Wear a respirator. You can pretend you're grilling in a post-apocalyptic world.
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Jun 21, 2016, 19:48
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Jun 21, 2016, 19:48
 
Kind of sort of but maybe not really relevant -- I highly recommend reading this story.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 16:09:
Cutter wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 15:26:
And as it applies to the brain you're not adding any new neural pathways anymore. That's it. That's all.

The business is a scam. But I think it is possible for new neural pathways to be created after 25. I'm pretty sure this has been seen sometimes in people with brain injuries who lose some sort of functionality due to the injury but recovery as the brain relearns the tasks...

Possibly, I'm by no means an expert. My understanding has always been however that 25+/- is basically it for growth and it's all (gradually) downhill after that. I haven't been able to find any actual science that nueorplasticity creates new neural pathways, merely the claims of it in marketing from companies like Luminosity. Seeing as the FTC they're no longer permitted to make those claims it stands to reason its bunk. Even if was true I'd imagine it would be rather limited and minor.
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Cutter wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 15:26:
And as it applies to the brain you're not adding any new neural pathways anymore. That's it. That's all.
The business is a scam. But I think it is possible for new neural pathways to be created after 25. I'm pretty sure this has been seen sometimes in people with brain injuries who lose some sort of functionality due to the injury but recovery as the brain relearns the tasks...
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:15:
Billion-dollar brain training industry a sham—nothing but placebo, study suggests.

I'm not going to say brain training is real, but this study doesn't do all that much to disprove it either (although it does some). A 25 person sample size is the bare minimum you need, and the 5 point difference they found falls within the statistical margin of error. Also, the methodology of (test, train for an hour, test again) is hardly training at all. Let's do a good longitudinal study with a decent sample size and find out.

The reason I say this is that there are plenty of studies that show certain activities can increase intelligence or at least maintain it, i.e. "train the brain":

- exercise for children increases brain size and ability to learn

- free play for children increases ability to learn, memory, and problem solving skills

- activities such as doing crossword puzzles, playing card games, and reading delay the onset of dementia in the elderly. Given that many people are drawn to "brain training" companies to prevent cognitive decline, this would seem to be important.

Yeah, but they're talking about adults and cognitive decline due to aging. All the brain training in the world won't stave that off. Which is why the FTC fined Lumosity 2 million bucks and they're no longer allowed to make claims of that nature. Once you're 25'ish it's all over but the crying. That's when the body begins its long slow decline. And as it applies to the brain you're not adding any new neural pathways anymore. That's it. That's all. While I imagine it can't hurt, you're a sucker if you're paying a monthly fee for a service like Lumiosity.


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Jun 21, 2016, 14:55
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Jun 21, 2016, 14:55
 
I keep a big wad of beef fat from trimmings in the freezer in a ziplock, and use that to oil the grill. I just rub it straight on the hot grates. It easy, free, and works great.
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Jun 21, 2016, 14:23
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Spektr wrote on Jun 21, 2016, 14:11:
The battle of Winterfell... it's not enough that the guys feel compelled to spoil their own series. Blue had to link it..

Blue, are you making people click links through telekinesis? Pretty sure that is against the webmaster guild code of conduct.
“We’ve arranged a society on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology, and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces." Carl Sagan
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Jun 21, 2016, 14:16
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I envy that you can bbq and grill. The smoke gives me an asthma attack. I can't even be around a fireplace or campfire.
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Jun 21, 2016, 14:15
 
Billion-dollar brain training industry a sham—nothing but placebo, study suggests.

I'm not going to say brain training is real, but this study doesn't do all that much to disprove it either (although it does some). A 25 person sample size is the bare minimum you need, and the 5 point difference they found falls within the statistical margin of error. Also, the methodology of (test, train for an hour, test again) is hardly training at all. Let's do a good longitudinal study with a decent sample size and find out.

The reason I say this is that there are plenty of studies that show certain activities can increase intelligence or at least maintain it, i.e. "train the brain":

- exercise for children increases brain size and ability to learn

- free play for children increases ability to learn, memory, and problem solving skills

- activities such as doing crossword puzzles, playing card games, and reading delay the onset of dementia in the elderly. Given that many people are drawn to "brain training" companies to prevent cognitive decline, this would seem to be important.
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Jun 21, 2016, 14:12
 
One good trick to stopping rust on your grates is to stop cleaning them after you cook. Clean them when you are pre-heating your grill the next time instead. The shit on them will protect the grates and you'll just burn it off anyway (insta-sterile).
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The battle of Winterfell... it's not enough that the guys feel compelled to spoil their own series. Blue had to link it..
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Jun 21, 2016, 13:56
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Jun 21, 2016, 13:56
 
...using flax seed oil on pans...I've currently coated it in shortening and cooked if five separate times...

I appreciate that you went vegan to season a grill that will be used to cook meat.

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Re: Billion-dollar brain training industry a sham
Jun 21, 2016, 12:33
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I am shocked. SHOCKED!
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