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Eurogamer.net caught up with id Software to talk about their new DOOM game,
specifically asking about player concerns about multiplayer support in the
first-person shooter reboot. They outline problems with rampant cheating and
missing features, noting that some of the features players desire, such as the
ability to create custom games, were present in the alpha test via undocumented
command-line arguments, but are not available in the release version. Marty
Stratton tells them that id is actively banning cheaters, though they note that
one cheat vendor brags that not one user of their "product" has been caught in
over a year. Here's more from Doom's executive producer and game director:
So it's time to put it to id. I asked Marty Stratton, Doom's executive producer and game director about what the future holds, and he was quick to put concerns at rest. "There's certainly no lack of commitment to Doom as a multiplayer game on our side," he says. "We are already working on private matches with custom game settings and expect to include that in a free update this summer."
Stratton acknowledges the missing features from the alpha, though he notes the fact that players weren't meant to access them. "There were a few developer tools discovered in the alpha that we knew we would need to improve before releasing to consumers and as mentioned, we are working on most of those updates now."
Later he expects bots to be added to the game. "Our bot system was actually written by one of our long-time senior programmers, John Dean, known online as 'Maleficus', who also wrote the Return to Castle Wolfenstein Fritz bot and the bots in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, so he does great work with bots. But John also just happens to be our internal lead programmer on SnapMap, so he's very busy."
The goal is to make bots available across both standard multiplayer and SnapMap, but it's likely that they'll be rolled out in phases, based on supporting where players want them most first, then improving them so they're flexible enough to work elsewhere. SnapMap will also be getting new features to develop it as a multiplayer environment.
Oh lordy loo they have bots, all of my prayers have been answered!
/mocking tone
How about the MP being able to use SnapMap maps???
I mean, practically zero players actually play snapmap, it's pathetic. 99% of people only play the MP, and rotate the same 6-7 maps over and over. While there's a treasure trough of new content on snapmap. But that's a different "game mode" which means you have to quit and start the game in "snap map" mode. Cause that was such a great idea when fucking CoD did it 10 years ago...
How do you fuck up something that simple?
Fuck a nut Id
/mocking tone
How about the MP being able to use SnapMap maps???
I mean, practically zero players actually play snapmap, it's pathetic. 99% of people only play the MP, and rotate the same 6-7 maps over and over. While there's a treasure trough of new content on snapmap. But that's a different "game mode" which means you have to quit and start the game in "snap map" mode. Cause that was such a great idea when fucking CoD did it 10 years ago...
How do you fuck up something that simple?
Fuck a nut Id
sauron wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 16:10:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 15:36:Tachikoma wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 14:59:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:16:Darks wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:13:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
And there's evidence that it's tied into something more.
Regardless, your character is a perfect demon killing machine, and that, for some reason, killing demons fuels you, kind of fits to make that true. The demons slaughtered so many by simply existing, and you basically do the same to them.
I don`t really have anything to say, just wanted to see if I can make this multi-reply post even bigger. I already had to scroll it down, even in fullscreen on a 27".
Come on folks. There really is no need for this.
Come on, it's 2016, you can't block progress man. /s
Not meaning to make the multi-reply post even bigger(!). Anyhow, I rather like this game mechanic. After all, drinking the blood of mortals definitely makes one stronger (and is delicious), so it seems to make perfect sense.
It's an arrow! It is pointing at... THE SCROLL BAR!
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Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 15:36:Tachikoma wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 14:59:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:16:Darks wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:13:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
And there's evidence that it's tied into something more.
Regardless, your character is a perfect demon killing machine, and that, for some reason, killing demons fuels you, kind of fits to make that true. The demons slaughtered so many by simply existing, and you basically do the same to them.
I don`t really have anything to say, just wanted to see if I can make this multi-reply post even bigger. I already had to scroll it down, even in fullscreen on a 27".
Come on folks. There really is no need for this.
Come on, it's 2016, you can't block progress man. /s
Not meaning to make the multi-reply post even bigger(!
). Anyhow, I rather like this game mechanic. After all, drinking the blood of mortals definitely makes one stronger (and is delicious), so it seems to make perfect sense.
Kittens!
But John also just happens to be our internal lead programmer on SnapMap, so he's very busy."
Rubbish! Clearly the man can easily work 22 hour days!
Tachikoma wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 14:59:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:16:Darks wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:13:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
And there's evidence that it's tied into something more.
Regardless, your character is a perfect demon killing machine, and that, for some reason, killing demons fuels you, kind of fits to make that true. The demons slaughtered so many by simply existing, and you basically do the same to them.
I don`t really have anything to say, just wanted to see if I can make this multi-reply post even bigger. I already had to scroll it down, even in fullscreen on a 27".
Come on folks. There really is no need for this.
Come on, it's 2016, you can't block progress man. /s
ASLayerAODsk wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 14:57:
that, and they think they are doing US a favour by making anything 'free'. sigh these guys are so pompous and overbloated and thankless to those that have purchased their product, but its a sign of the industry, so many sheeple out there that allow this to happen, and blah. Just sad.
My pity is reserved for those who use the word "sheeple" without irony.
D'oh, dunce cap for the day for me. Thanks!
Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 13:36:maddog wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 13:33:
Can you play MP against bots?
From above:
Later he expects bots to be added to the game.
Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:16:Darks wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:13:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
And there's evidence that it's tied into something more.
Regardless, your character is a perfect demon killing machine, and that, for some reason, killing demons fuels you, kind of fits to make that true. The demons slaughtered so many by simply existing, and you basically do the same to them.
I don`t really have anything to say, just wanted to see if I can make this multi-reply post even bigger. I already had to scroll it down, even in fullscreen on a 27".
Come on folks. There really is no need for this.
that, and they think they are doing US a favour by making anything 'free'. sigh these guys are so pompous and overbloated and thankless to those that have purchased their product, but its a sign of the industry, so many sheeple out there that allow this to happen, and blah. Just sad.
Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 13:36:maddog wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 13:33:
Can you play MP against bots?
From above:
Later he expects bots to be added to the game.
Yes, but can you play against them???!!!1
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maddog wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 13:33:
Can you play MP against bots?
From above:
Later he expects bots to be added to the game.
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Can you play MP against bots?
"There's certainly no lack of commitment to Doom as a multiplayer game on our side,"
I know that I'm repeating myself etc.. No server browser and only match making is a sign of being committed?!
I know that I'm repeating myself etc.. No server browser and only match making is a sign of being committed?!
Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:16:Darks wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:13:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
And there's evidence that it's tied into something more.
Regardless, your character is a perfect demon killing machine, and that, for some reason, killing demons fuels you, kind of fits to make that true. The demons slaughtered so many by simply existing, and you basically do the same to them.
Hmm, I'm not sure that really means much more. In that parchment you see the Doom marine fighting alongside Templar Knights, and the figure in the light is probably the one who crafted Doomguy's armor for him, also mentioned in the game.
Darks wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 12:13:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
And there's evidence that it's tied into something more.
Regardless, your character is a perfect demon killing machine, and that, for some reason, killing demons fuels you, kind of fits to make that true. The demons slaughtered so many by simply existing, and you basically do the same to them.
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Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 11:09:Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
The point is, Hell fears the Doom Marine. Hoorah!! Crush those Demons Marine!
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Beamer wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:59:Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
The heavens? Nowhere does it imply that. The hyperbolic verse is just to show how much hell feared him. The general consensus is that the player character is either the Doom marine after he got stuck in hell after Doom 3 RoE (Or possibly Doom 2 if you fudge the ending a bit) or that he was the last member of those Templar knights avenging his fallen civilization (Or possibly both, the Doom marine might've joined up with them beforehand, as they'd have had the same goals).
Razumen wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:42:Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
Not to mention the plot is that you were found imprisoned in Hell because you're basically a demon killer sent from the Heavens. That killing demons is what keeps you alive and fuels you for more killing demons makes sense.
I think most people disliked the concept when watching videos, but when actually playing, you come around quickly. It keeps the flow so wonderful.
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Jagacademy wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36:The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
No to mention armor doesn't drop off enemies unless you use a specific rune, and the health and ammo drops are pretty rare unless you use glory kills, which can be mostly ignored.
The Half Elf wrote on Jun 9, 2016, 09:53:
It looks interesting, but not a fan of the Pinata effect of baddies exploding and raining health and armor.
Just use your imagination. Armor is pretty easy, you can collect it off of your fallen enemies. As for health, in a lot of fantasy lore, demon blood often gives power to those who consume it, so just imagine it is healing you after killing them.
If you don't use your imagination to explain things away, the overwhelming majority of Fantasy and Science Fiction makes no sense whatsoever.
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