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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 6, 2016, 09:48
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 6, 2016, 09:48
Jun 6, 2016, 09:48
 
It's not just Finland. We have 200Mb capless fiber here in the UK for £21 a month. And my ping to US servers for games is around 100ms. And if you 'only' want 100Mb it's £13 a month.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 6, 2016, 07:43
Bub
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 6, 2016, 07:43
Jun 6, 2016, 07:43
Bub
 
Just pray the auto industry does not pick up on this scam.

The sales man tells you just before you drive off in your new car:
Oh be carefull to not drive more than 30 miles a week or the cars computer will lock it up untill you pay us for going over the mileage cap.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 6, 2016, 04:31
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 6, 2016, 04:31
Jun 6, 2016, 04:31
 
1badmf wrote on Jun 6, 2016, 00:19:
descender wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 19:51:
That make me sad and mad, you're not allowed to post here anymore and ruin my afternoon like that.

Ask him what his latency is like, you'll feel better.

why would his latency be high? you know, other than internetting from pluto?

I assumed he was being snarky and meant that it was just as awesome as his bandwidth.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 6, 2016, 04:25
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 6, 2016, 04:25
Jun 6, 2016, 04:25
 
Latency from inside the Eurozone is not much of a problem. Latency to out side of zone is a problem. Japan and Aus are still crazy high, but to the U.S. is around 110-140ms to East coast/Mid-west BF4 servers for me. Latency to things in zone are well under 50. You kinda stop noticing after a while, as its not a problem.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 6, 2016, 00:19
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 6, 2016, 00:19
Jun 6, 2016, 00:19
 
descender wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 19:51:
That make me sad and mad, you're not allowed to post here anymore and ruin my afternoon like that.

Ask him what his latency is like, you'll feel better.

why would his latency be high? you know, other than internetting from pluto?
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 19:51
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 19:51
Jun 5, 2016, 19:51
 
That make me sad and mad, you're not allowed to post here anymore and ruin my afternoon like that.

Ask him what his latency is like, you'll feel better.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 19:16
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 19:16
Jun 5, 2016, 19:16
 
Entire fucking world: "Duh"
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 18:55
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 18:55
Jun 5, 2016, 18:55
 
Bopper wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 17:30:
Holy moly I am lucky here in Finland I have 350/20 Mbps and 4G wireless on the house (that I don't even use) for 30 Euros a month.

China and US are the worlds cattle albeit in different ways. Moo.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 18:27
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 18:27
Jun 5, 2016, 18:27
 
Bopper wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 17:30:
Holy moly I am lucky here in Finland I have 350/20 Mbps and 4G wireless on the house (that I don't even use) for 30 Euros a month.

That make me sad and mad, you're not allowed to post here anymore and ruin my afternoon like that.

It's <35 dollars US, what's the catch, does it come with free health care and decriminalized marajuwanna.

But I bet the VAT is 67%.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 18:04
Dev
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 18:04
Jun 5, 2016, 18:04
Dev
 
Pigeon wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 14:08:
Dev wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 13:45:
Saboth wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 12:58:
Exactly. They are trying to make up for the loss in TV subscriptions by creating arbitrary limits and fees. Whereas in the past you might have paid $100-$120 for TV+internet, people are dropping TV and going with internet-only, so the companies are maybe getting only $60-$80. So now they implement caps and start charging $35-$50 if you go "over" your false cap, so they still make $100+ on the consumer. So the consumer thinks: "Hmm, I can pay $40 a month for Hulu, Netflix, Sling, then $50 for overage charges, and $75 for internet for a total of $165, or I could just sign up for that Comcast TV deal for $125, and my streaming would go back down to 200-300 GB a month and I don't have to deal with those overage fees. Essentially when you buy TV, your "streaming" (transfer of data to watch TV) is free. When you use cable to stream from other sources, you are now charged for it, meaning Comcast is giving themselves a big advantage over competitors. We were using 200-300 GB when we had internet and cable TV. Now that we cut the cord, that's more like 600-700. I would think someone would point out exempting their cable service from data transfer rates while charging all other sources of TV streaming is anti-competitive.
Or, people with a clue have the option to get Comcast business for $70 and have no caps at all. (at least in areas where it's available)

For a 16Mbps/3Mbps connection and 2 year agreement. It would be $110 for me to keep the same speed I currently have, so lets not pretend that's a deal...
Depends on the math. If you are downloading enough to go over caps all the time, and you are in the situation described by Saboth above, it might be. If that's not you, then yeah it might not fit. Internet isn't one size fits all.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 17:30
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 17:30
Jun 5, 2016, 17:30
 
Holy moly I am lucky here in Finland I have 350/20 Mbps and 4G wireless on the house (that I don't even use) for 30 Euros a month.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 14:08
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 14:08
Jun 5, 2016, 14:08
 
Dev wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 13:45:
Saboth wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 12:58:
Exactly. They are trying to make up for the loss in TV subscriptions by creating arbitrary limits and fees. Whereas in the past you might have paid $100-$120 for TV+internet, people are dropping TV and going with internet-only, so the companies are maybe getting only $60-$80. So now they implement caps and start charging $35-$50 if you go "over" your false cap, so they still make $100+ on the consumer. So the consumer thinks: "Hmm, I can pay $40 a month for Hulu, Netflix, Sling, then $50 for overage charges, and $75 for internet for a total of $165, or I could just sign up for that Comcast TV deal for $125, and my streaming would go back down to 200-300 GB a month and I don't have to deal with those overage fees. Essentially when you buy TV, your "streaming" (transfer of data to watch TV) is free. When you use cable to stream from other sources, you are now charged for it, meaning Comcast is giving themselves a big advantage over competitors. We were using 200-300 GB when we had internet and cable TV. Now that we cut the cord, that's more like 600-700. I would think someone would point out exempting their cable service from data transfer rates while charging all other sources of TV streaming is anti-competitive.
Or, people with a clue have the option to get Comcast business for $70 and have no caps at all. (at least in areas where it's available)

For a 16Mbps/3Mbps connection and 2 year agreement. It would be $110 for me to keep the same speed I currently have, so lets not pretend that's a deal...
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 13:45
Dev
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 13:45
Jun 5, 2016, 13:45
Dev
 
Saboth wrote on Jun 5, 2016, 12:58:
Exactly. They are trying to make up for the loss in TV subscriptions by creating arbitrary limits and fees. Whereas in the past you might have paid $100-$120 for TV+internet, people are dropping TV and going with internet-only, so the companies are maybe getting only $60-$80. So now they implement caps and start charging $35-$50 if you go "over" your false cap, so they still make $100+ on the consumer. So the consumer thinks: "Hmm, I can pay $40 a month for Hulu, Netflix, Sling, then $50 for overage charges, and $75 for internet for a total of $165, or I could just sign up for that Comcast TV deal for $125, and my streaming would go back down to 200-300 GB a month and I don't have to deal with those overage fees. Essentially when you buy TV, your "streaming" (transfer of data to watch TV) is free. When you use cable to stream from other sources, you are now charged for it, meaning Comcast is giving themselves a big advantage over competitors. We were using 200-300 GB when we had internet and cable TV. Now that we cut the cord, that's more like 600-700. I would think someone would point out exempting their cable service from data transfer rates while charging all other sources of TV streaming is anti-competitive.
Or, people with a clue have the option to get Comcast business for $70 and have no caps at all. (at least in areas where it's available)
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 13:05
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 13:05
Jun 5, 2016, 13:05
 
Agreed. I haven't cut the cord, but having Netflix now and taking habits into a stream only world. Streaming adds up quickly and going past caps and then paying premiums in tiers... costly.

As said, the are trying to make it so there isn't a savings. Instead of a TV running in the background today for no additional cost, you don't do that in the future. Not saying end of world but it isn't as ideal/convenient.

If I were to have 2 tv's on 14 hours a day and converted that to 2 streams 14 hours a day. I believe that would be very expensive with data caps.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 12:58
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 12:58
Jun 5, 2016, 12:58
 
Exactly. They are trying to make up for the loss in TV subscriptions by creating arbitrary limits and fees. Whereas in the past you might have paid $100-$120 for TV+internet, people are dropping TV and going with internet-only, so the companies are maybe getting only $60-$80. So now they implement caps and start charging $35-$50 if you go "over" your false cap, so they still make $100+ on the consumer. So the consumer thinks: "Hmm, I can pay $40 a month for Hulu, Netflix, Sling, then $50 for overage charges, and $75 for internet for a total of $165, or I could just sign up for that Comcast TV deal for $125, and my streaming would go back down to 200-300 GB a month and I don't have to deal with those overage fees. Essentially when you buy TV, your "streaming" (transfer of data to watch TV) is free. When you use cable to stream from other sources, you are now charged for it, meaning Comcast is giving themselves a big advantage over competitors. We were using 200-300 GB when we had internet and cable TV. Now that we cut the cord, that's more like 600-700. I would think someone would point out exempting their cable service from data transfer rates while charging all other sources of TV streaming is anti-competitive.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Jun 5, 2016, 11:55
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Jun 5, 2016, 11:55
Jun 5, 2016, 11:55
 
But it sounds better than, 'our investors want exponentially increasing profits.'

The first sentence of the article sums things up pretty nicely:
Supporters of internet data caps want to have things both ways: admitting that the monthly usage limits have nothing to do with congestion, while simultaneously arguing that those who use the most should pay more (but not that those who use the least should get any discount).

The real "hilarity" is they've been driving away their paid TV customers because they're offerings aren't competitive (in a market they have a near monopoly on), so they're jacking up the price and adding gotcha fees onto to a service that's closer to a necessity.
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