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The Half Elf wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 23:00:
Goes back to an excellent Star Trek TNG episode where Data is on trial to determine if he is sentient or not.
If a machine is sentient, and we build 1000 or 100,000's of them, then are they a race, and if we own them is it slavery?

It's been a few years since I watched it, but I'm pretty sure the remastered blus had an extended cut of that episode...

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The Half Elf wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 23:00:
Goes back to an excellent Star Trek TNG episode where Data is on trial to determine if he is sentient or not.
If a machine is sentient, and we build 1000 or 100,000's of them, then are they a race, and if we own them is it slavery?
My first sentient love doll is going to be called Seks Gudiya (after the Hindi words for "Sex Doll") just like in Star Trek! ...Well, not EXACTLY like in Star Trek
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
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Goes back to an excellent Star Trek TNG episode where Data is on trial to determine if he is sentient or not.
If a machine is sentient, and we build 1000 or 100,000's of them, then are they a race, and if we own them is it slavery?
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 16:36:
Cutter wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 10:48:
C) If man ever creates an actual AI then they can't own it without it being a slave. So is that what they're promoting? Slavery? They'd like the rest of us to be slaves so why not.

Are dogs and cats slaves? How would that be any different?

And the danger inherent is that machines will do our thinking for us. Even now most people don't question what they see on a screen. What is the AI makes a mistake? People take it as gospel and you can see where everything goes off the rails.

How is this any different from religion, and the issues we have to deal with there?

Were either of these answers supposed to be reassuring?
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Jun 4, 2016, 16:39
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Frijoles wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 11:39:
Maybe those Tech CEOs are already AI and they're trying to prepare the rest of us.

Or CEOs are aliens.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
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Cutter wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 10:48:
C) If man ever creates an actual AI then they can't own it without it being a slave. So is that what they're promoting? Slavery? They'd like the rest of us to be slaves so why not.

Are dogs and cats slaves? How would that be any different?

And the danger inherent is that machines will do our thinking for us. Even now most people don't question what they see on a screen. What is the AI makes a mistake? People take it as gospel and you can see where everything goes off the rails.

How is this any different from religion, and the issues we have to deal with there?
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Jun 4, 2016, 11:42
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TheGenk wrote on Jun 4, 2016, 11:11:
"The era of artifical intelligence" Right,...
Might as well declare this "the era of flying cars" or "era of renewable energy" for all the accuracy contained in those statements.

If you insist on declaring an era, declare the era of gratuitously elaborate scripts.

The metric system in America era. The paperless era. The Johnny Football era.

Or is it more the digitizing the world era? Aka using devices to be able to pixelize our world, invisible to us, so devices can use it for positioning and basic if/then algorithms to do this or that with our new pixelized world? Because that seems more of what is going on. That isn't really the def. of AI we've been talking now for a long time.

But then again, CEO's are there to hype their stock up.

And then I actually start to read the article... lol:

"Artificial intelligence and machine learning will create computers so sophisticated and godlike that humans will need to implant “neural laces” in their brains to keep up, Tesla Motors TSLA and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk told a crowd of tech leaders this week."

And this is why I can sometimes see Trump's rednecks point of view. Like this is a world we are ready for? Who's asking for this from the populace? It's like these ceo's are playing dictator. I wonder if they have designs of ruling the world with few people and robots doing everything? Talk like that imo you can't really take it off the table since they first put it on the table like that. Perhaps it becomes national security issue. These are really bold and apocalyptic statements by business leaders.

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Maybe those Tech CEOs are already AI and they're trying to prepare the rest of us.
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"The era of artifical intelligence" Right,...
Might as well declare this "the era of flying cars" or "era of renewable energy" for all the accuracy contained in those statements.

If you insist on declaring an era, declare the era of gratuitously elaborate scripts.
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Yeah, sure it is. A) It's not actual AI. B) These guys are just talking about it in terms of they can better datamine people and profit from it. Hardly a good, or even necessary, use of machine learning. C) If man ever creates an actual AI then they can't own it without it being a slave. So is that what they're promoting? Slavery? They'd like the rest of us to be slaves so why not.

And the danger inherent is that machines will do our thinking for us. Even now most people don't question what they see on a screen. What is the AI makes a mistake? People take it as gospel and you can see where everything goes off the rails.

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