Suppa7 wrote on May 9, 2016, 05:01:
I don't need to prove shit when there is google dumbass. There's this thing called moddb. You simply google 'quake mods' and you'll find all sorts of interesting shit. I'm not going to do homework for historically illiterate shit for brains like you.

ROFL! The burden of proof is ON YOU when you make delusional claims that you pulled out of the depths of your ass. If these mods exist anywhere outside of your imagination, then it should be simple for you to show some concrete examples. But you can't, because you're full of shit.

Hey buddy, Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster exists too. I don't need to prove it, because I'm not going to do homework for historically illiterate shit like you

All you know how to do is make excuses and avoid the issue when someone calls you out on your bullshit. Pathetic.

This comment was edited on May 9, 2016, 12:53.

Suppa7 wrote on May 9, 2016, 05:01:

Yifes wrote on May 7, 2016, 00:53:

Suppa7 wrote on May 6, 2016, 16:47:
There was all sorts of crazy shit in the mod community if you ever played anything besides bog standard games you'd know that. You come off as another retard.

Then prove it. Name some multiplayer FPS mods from the 90s that had melee tanks with AOE shields, Pudge hooks, time rewinds, ultimates etc. Do it. You can't cuz you're full of shit.

I don't need to prove shit when there is google dumbass. There's this thing called moddb. You simply google 'quake mods' and you'll find all sorts of interesting shit. I'm not going to do homework for historically illiterate shit for brains like you.

Looks like he was right. You can't name one that had those things.

Yifes wrote on May 7, 2016, 00:53:

Suppa7 wrote on May 6, 2016, 16:47:
There was all sorts of crazy shit in the mod community if you ever played anything besides bog standard games you'd know that. You come off as another retard.

Then prove it. Name some multiplayer FPS mods from the 90s that had melee tanks with AOE shields, Pudge hooks, time rewinds, ultimates etc. Do it. You can't cuz you're full of shit.

I don't need to prove shit when there is google dumbass. There's this thing called moddb. You simply google 'quake mods' and you'll find all sorts of interesting shit. I'm not going to do homework for historically illiterate shit for brains like you.

Drayth wrote on May 8, 2016, 17:08:
Are you using a VPN?

Nope.

Are you using a VPN?

SpectralMeat wrote on May 8, 2016, 07:34:

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on May 7, 2016, 14:39:

peteham wrote on May 7, 2016, 05:48:

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on May 6, 2016, 22:15:
Edit: hmm... I don't see the deal on it at GMG either

Got it in one of their emails: overwatch-origins-edition , and then use 20OFF * at checkout. Don't know if it works since I can't even add to basket due to the aforementioned region restriction (or if the asterisk was just a footnote or actually part of the campaign code.)

Apparently its restricted in the US too. I just get the "not available in your region" message.

Yup US only.
Cdkeys have the Origins edition for $45

But I AM in the US. Not sure why I'm getting the restricted message.

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on May 7, 2016, 14:39:

peteham wrote on May 7, 2016, 05:48:

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on May 6, 2016, 22:15:
Edit: hmm... I don't see the deal on it at GMG either

Got it in one of their emails: overwatch-origins-edition , and then use 20OFF * at checkout. Don't know if it works since I can't even add to basket due to the aforementioned region restriction (or if the asterisk was just a footnote or actually part of the campaign code.)

Apparently its restricted in the US too. I just get the "not available in your region" message.

Yup US only.
Cdkeys have the Origins edition for $45

PHJF wrote on May 7, 2016, 08:21:

It's a pointless argument because you're arguing the game is "casual" when it really isn't. Characters like Tracer require a ton of practice and skill to be competent with.

No Im not. Im arguing that while its marketed and designed to appeal to a super casual crowd, its actually a game that requires superior teamwork, and is basically (just like HOTS) a game aimed at the esports crowd. I gave up on HOTS when I got frustrated and thanks to this beta I don't have to go through the same process with this game.

peteham wrote on May 7, 2016, 05:48:

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on May 6, 2016, 22:15:
Edit: hmm... I don't see the deal on it at GMG either

Got it in one of their emails: overwatch-origins-edition , and then use 20OFF * at checkout. Don't know if it works since I can't even add to basket due to the aforementioned region restriction (or if the asterisk was just a footnote or actually part of the campaign code.)

Apparently its restricted in the US too. I just get the "not available in your region" message.

VaranDragon wrote on May 7, 2016, 03:40:

Melee tanks, AOE shields, Pudge Hooks, Time Rewinds, Ultimates....why do you list those things like they are a good thing? MOBA/MMO abilities in an FPS sound like a terrible fucking idea, more rock-paper-scissor gameplay for people who can't shoot with a keyboard and mouse to save their lives.

Hooks need to be precisely aimed. The time rewind is on a character with a tiny health pool that will die in a split second if your reaction isn't fast enough. Melee can be kited. AOE shields are for choke points and advancing the objectives. And if you think aim doesn't matter then you are out of your fucking mind as any DPS character requires good aim to put out any decent damage. If your aim sucks then you're relegated to playing meat shields and support roles, and not a very good one at that since even those characters have skills that need to be aimed to be effective.

Why are these options good? Because they create new and diverse gameplay. Also, I was calling out Suppa for making his usual dumb as fuck statement about how there's nothing new here that wasn't done before in the 90s.

Melee tanks, AOE shields, Pudge Hooks, Time Rewinds, Ultimates....why do you list those things like they are a good thing?

Because they are new and different? I don't remember uber charges or CP maps being in Team Fortress, but I can't imagine TF2 without them.

It's a pointless argument because you're arguing the game is "casual" when it really isn't. Characters like Tracer require a ton of practice and skill to be competent with.

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on May 6, 2016, 22:15:
Edit: hmm... I don't see the deal on it at GMG either

Got it in one of their emails: overwatch-origins-edition , and then use 20OFF * at checkout. Don't know if it works since I can't even add to basket due to the aforementioned region restriction (or if the asterisk was just a footnote or actually part of the campaign code.)

My main beef with the game is that that there are hard counters to (nearly) every character. It forces a team to adapt and change characters on the fly. On paper that sounds like a good thing, but in practice with a 6 player team limit, it can turn into a MOBA fuckup of epic proportions.

Im grateful for the Open Beta though and the chance to try the game and come to my own conclusions.

VaranDragon wrote on May 7, 2016, 03:40:

Yifes wrote on May 7, 2016, 00:53:

Suppa7 wrote on May 6, 2016, 16:47:
There was all sorts of crazy shit in the mod community if you ever played anything besides bog standard games you'd know that. You come off as another retard.

Then prove it. Name some multiplayer FPS mods from the 90s that had melee tanks with AOE shields, Pudge hooks, time rewinds, ultimates etc. Do it. You can't cuz you're full of shit.

Melee tanks, AOE shields, Pudge Hooks, Time Rewinds, Ultimates....why do you list those things like they are a good thing? MOBA/MMO abilities in an FPS sound like a terrible fucking idea, more rock-paper-scissor gameplay for people who can't shoot with a keyboard and mouse to save their lives. Team Fortress did just fine without them, as did TF2, and now this game (for which I had high hopes) comes along and suddenly there is the 6 player max limit, cramped maps, technicolor galore and people spamming their ultimates....So once again, the gameplay is devolved to who has the retard on the team to ruin the fucking fun for the rest of the team...Fuck that....Im deeply disappointed in Overwatch.

Accuracy is a important part of many characters in Overwatch. Not all characters though.

This comment was edited on May 7, 2016, 04:05.

Yifes wrote on May 7, 2016, 00:53:

Suppa7 wrote on May 6, 2016, 16:47:
There was all sorts of crazy shit in the mod community if you ever played anything besides bog standard games you'd know that. You come off as another retard.

Then prove it. Name some multiplayer FPS mods from the 90s that had melee tanks with AOE shields, Pudge hooks, time rewinds, ultimates etc. Do it. You can't cuz you're full of shit.

Melee tanks, AOE shields, Pudge Hooks, Time Rewinds, Ultimates....why do you list those things like they are a good thing? MOBA/MMO abilities in an FPS sound like a terrible fucking idea, more rock-paper-scissor gameplay for people who can't shoot with a keyboard and mouse to save their lives. Team Fortress did just fine without them, as did TF2, and now this game (for which I had high hopes) comes along and suddenly there is the 6 player max limit, cramped maps, technicolor galore and people spamming their ultimates....So once again, the gameplay is devolved to who has the retard on the team to ruin the fucking fun for the rest of the team...Fuck that....Im deeply disappointed in Overwatch.

Suppa7 wrote on May 6, 2016, 16:47:
There was all sorts of crazy shit in the mod community if you ever played anything besides bog standard games you'd know that. You come off as another retard.

Then prove it. Name some multiplayer FPS mods from the 90s that had melee tanks with AOE shields, Pudge hooks, time rewinds, ultimates etc. Do it. You can't cuz you're full of shit.

Despite liking pretty much everything else Blizzard has done, I just can't get into this. I've played in a couple of betas and now the open and it's just not my thing. I don't like the characters, the art, or the gameplay. Ah well, Uncharted comes out next week.

I've been playing since yesterday, and can agree that this is very much like TF2, although a bit faster. There's definitely more variety in the characters and their abilities though. I think it's too early to tell how good the maps are, but so far I don't have an issue with them. Some are pretty good, and they all look very nice.

I've only played about 5 characters for more than one match so far. I'm trying to play around with more, and maybe pick one or two of each class to focus on for now.

Anyone know if it's possible to change the difficulty of the bots in the humans vs. A.I. training matches?

Edit: hmm... I don't see the deal on it at GMG either

This comment was edited on May 6, 2016, 22:29.

GMG has the Origins edition at 20% off, so ~50 USD. The offer only seems to apply to the USA, as it's giving me a "not available in your region" prompt.
Like Sepharo said, the only difference from the standard edition is a few cosmetics. Not worth it for most people.

Undocumented Alien wrote on May 6, 2016, 19:43:
Played for about an hour or so, I wasn't expecting much but I found it to be fun. Played the Reaper character and Mercy and got into it. The classes definitely play and feel unique, so a LOT of replay-ability. It's definitely a blending of Team Fortress and UT'ish DM. I think $60 is to high for it personally, $40 would be more acceptable, so I'll have to think about it.

The base PC version is $39.99
The only extras you get with the $60 version is 6 cosmetic skins (skins are random loot drops anyway) and some Overwatch themed DLC for other Blizzard games. It's really not worth it unless you have to have some specific character skins and feel like paying $20 for them.