Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters

Ubisoft announces plans to deal with the scurrilous sort who have been cheating in Tom Clancy's The Division. They make a distinction between those actively running cheat engines versus those exploiting bugs, and say that going forward they are going to be more proactive in earmarking unpatched bugs they consider exploits and will then be taking stronger actions against those who exploit them after that. Here's word on dealing with those who run cheat engines:
From the very beginning of development, our emphasis has always been on the player experience and how good we want it to be. We have great plans for the future of The Division, and for these to succeed we must make sure to provide a smooth high-quality experience. Unfortunately, the gameplay experience was recently impaired by in-game bugs and players violating the rules of the game. In order to bring back a better and healthier environment, we have taken new steps to address the situation.

CHEAT ENGINES

Cheating players have been an issue for a number of you in the Dark Zone, and we’ve heard this feedback loud and clear. We are strengthening our efforts to address this problem, as described below.

First, we have implemented new cheat detection methods that have allowed us to identify many more players currently using cheat engines in the game. We have already caught more cheaters in the last few days than we had in total during the previous weeks. As a result, we will be handing out the biggest wave of suspensions and bans to date over the course of the next few days.

Second, when cheaters are caught, we will now apply a suspension of 14 days on first offense (instead of the previous 3 day initial suspension). Second offense will always be a permanent ban.

We anticipate these two changes will noticeably improve your experience. New upgrades on cheat detection are underway.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 20:36
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 20:36
Apr 29, 2016, 20:36
 
Ahh yes, empty promises. Does nothing to quell the fears that the game will never be fixed because it is totally reliant on client side data.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 21:03
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 21:03
Apr 29, 2016, 21:03
 
We have great plans for the future of The Division, and for these to succeed we must make sure to provide a smooth high-quality experience.

And the way you made sure of that was to program a game where the client data was trusted? Yeah, that seems legit.

I'm going to say that you had great plans for your wallets, and for those plans to succeed, you programmed the Division as cheaply as you possibly could.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 21:09
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 21:09
Apr 29, 2016, 21:09
 
Way to late UBI, you have bigger problems then the cheaters now, most have already abandoned the game because of this bullshit. I haven't touched the game in weeks. Might not ever again either.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 21:23
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 21:23
Apr 29, 2016, 21:23
 
Creston wrote on Apr 29, 2016, 21:03:
We have great plans for the future of The Division, and for these to succeed we must make sure to provide a smooth high-quality experience.

And the way you made sure of that was to program a game where the client data was trusted? Yeah, that seems legit.

I'm going to say that you had great plans for your wallets, and for those plans to succeed, you programmed the Division as cheaply as you possibly could.

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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 22:12
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 22:12
Apr 29, 2016, 22:12
 
Make them eat pumpkin!
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 22:41
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 22:41
Apr 29, 2016, 22:41
 
Yeah, after doing a little digging, the programmers in my regular 4 man have found out just how simple it is for even complete morons to do stuff like eternal clips with enormous fire rates.

To the point where they can game the built in systems. eg. You can increase the head hit box and texture to enormous size to make a head shot easier than a body shot (even before you get to aim bot territory).

Considering how much went right with the Division (had a bunch of fun so far), the lack of security is stunning (except, Ubi, so there's always guaranteed to be something completely broken...)
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 29, 2016, 23:30
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 29, 2016, 23:30
Apr 29, 2016, 23:30
 
That security model sounds like a console game programming etiquette. Then add the UBI factor and... Hey UBI Factor sounds like a TV reality show gone bad.

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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 01:23
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Apr 30, 2016, 01:23
 
hopefully they fix things soon because i want to start playing since i got a key for this game courtesy of Nvidia and want to be playing sooner rather than later
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 01:26
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 30, 2016, 01:26
Apr 30, 2016, 01:26
 
Fantaz wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 01:23:
hopefully they fix things soon because i want to start playing since i got a key for this game courtesy of Nvidia and want to be playing sooner rather than later

better download some hacks while you're preparing, or you'll be the only one that doesn't have any. the client/server engineering was just shamefully implemented and I too quit because of it. pretty sure most of the legit players will also drop out soon if they haven't already.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 01:49
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Apr 30, 2016, 01:49
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And here is another reason why I do not play multiplayer games anymore.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 02:14
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Apr 30, 2016, 02:14
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JeffD wrote on Apr 29, 2016, 20:36:
Ahh yes, empty promises. Does nothing to quell the fears that the game will never be fixed because it is totally reliant on client side data.

this, this, a thousand times this.

motherfucking cheat engine. nuff said.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 02:20
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Apr 30, 2016, 02:20
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1badmf wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 01:26:
Fantaz wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 01:23:
hopefully they fix things soon because i want to start playing since i got a key for this game courtesy of Nvidia and want to be playing sooner rather than later

better download some hacks while you're preparing, or you'll be the only one that doesn't have any. the client/server engineering was just shamefully implemented and I too quit because of it. pretty sure most of the legit players will also drop out soon if they haven't already.

All legit players I started the game with have dropped it. And truth be told, hand to god, every. single. group that I've joined in the DZ, who all seem like cool guys, get me in their teamspeak, and within about 20 minutes one of them reveals that they have hacks on standby. I say "oh yeah?" And then the others all chime in that they have various cheats loaded and waiting.

It's mostly a self-defense measure at this point. As it's still the only way to defend one's self against the rampant DZ hackers, is just to out hack them, it's pathetic. They say they only use them against other cheaters, and to fly through the ridunculously hard challenge raid, as that's the only way to get the best gear.

I actually downloaded cheat engine, installed it, then deleted it. Never hacked in a game in my life, but jesus christ, this is the ONLY game that's even got me to CONSIDER it, and 2 weeks later I actually downloaded one... feel so dirty even talking about it, but honestly, no one could crucify me with it if i did hack in that game. It's hack or be hacked.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 02:33
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 30, 2016, 02:33
Apr 30, 2016, 02:33
 
And will those people burned over TD ever learn something? Will they stop giving into the hype. Will they stop purchasing Ubi games? Will they wait 2-3 weeks before purchasing? Some may be, most of them ... sure as hell NOT. Next hype, next instant purchase, next burn, next whining, rinse, repeat! Emotional dependancy at its worst, right next to people in an abusive relationship who just cannot leave their abusive partners.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 03:19
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Apr 30, 2016, 03:19
 
1badmf wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 01:26:
Fantaz wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 01:23:
hopefully they fix things soon because i want to start playing since i got a key for this game courtesy of Nvidia and want to be playing sooner rather than later

better download some hacks while you're preparing, or you'll be the only one that doesn't have any. the client/server engineering was just shamefully implemented and I too quit because of it. pretty sure most of the legit players will also drop out soon if they haven't already.

Well, they did kind of rush it out the door, so that it's not secure can't be helped. Oh, wait.

The other thing is that there's no incentive for them to fix this problem really. By the time you've realized it, you've played too much to return it.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 03:20
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Apr 30, 2016, 03:20
 
Slick wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 02:14:
JeffD wrote on Apr 29, 2016, 20:36:
Ahh yes, empty promises. Does nothing to quell the fears that the game will never be fixed because it is totally reliant on client side data.

this, this, a thousand times this.

motherfucking cheat engine. nuff said.

Is it really any worse than any other game out there that relies on client side data: COD, BF, etc.?
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 03:54
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Apr 30, 2016, 03:54
 
Kajetan wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 02:33:
And will those people burned over TD ever learn something? Will they stop giving into the hype. Will they stop purchasing Ubi games? Will they wait 2-3 weeks before purchasing? Some may be, most of them ... sure as hell NOT. Next hype, next instant purchase, next burn, next whining, rinse, repeat! Emotional dependancy at its worst, right next to people in an abusive relationship who just cannot leave their abusive partners.

This! Above all else this! They keep making turds, gamers keep buying them. As long as you are the typical gaming consumer, preordering left and right, buying games from Ubisoft (hahahahha loser!) this is going to keep going on. So yeah, I don't blame Ubi, I blame people like Slick, who keep buying the next new Shiny, swearing that its the best thing in the world, then quitting in rage after two weeks and crying on these here forums...

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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 07:51
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 30, 2016, 07:51
Apr 30, 2016, 07:51
 
Creston wrote on Apr 29, 2016, 21:03:
We have great plans for the future of The Division, and for these to succeed we must make sure to provide a smooth high-quality experience.

And the way you made sure of that was to program a game where the client data was trusted? Yeah, that seems legit.

I'm going to say that you had great plans for your wallets, and for those plans to succeed, you programmed the Division as cheaply as you possibly could.

Suits lining their pockets with fat bonus checks at the expense of quality and telling their programmers to STFU or find another job when they probably told them that a trusted-client model on the PC was insane. Sounds exactly right to me.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 09:26
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Apr 30, 2016, 09:26
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 03:20:
Is it really any worse than any other game out there that relies on client side data: COD, BF, etc.?

I don't think CoD uses client side data. Not sure about BF.

Even so, no, it's not any worse, but since it doesn't really get any worse than Trusted Client, that's not saying much.
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 12:07
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters Apr 30, 2016, 12:07
Apr 30, 2016, 12:07
 
VaranDragon wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 03:54:
Kajetan wrote on Apr 30, 2016, 02:33:
And will those people burned over TD ever learn something? Will they stop giving into the hype. Will they stop purchasing Ubi games? Will they wait 2-3 weeks before purchasing? Some may be, most of them ... sure as hell NOT. Next hype, next instant purchase, next burn, next whining, rinse, repeat! Emotional dependancy at its worst, right next to people in an abusive relationship who just cannot leave their abusive partners.

This! Above all else this! They keep making turds, gamers keep buying them. As long as you are the typical gaming consumer, preordering left and right, buying games from Ubisoft (hahahahha loser!) this is going to keep going on. So yeah, I don't blame Ubi, I blame people like Slick, who keep buying the next new Shiny, swearing that its the best thing in the world, then quitting in rage after two weeks and crying on these here forums...

no shit, and they are so clueless they have no idea how it keeps happening to them, boo hoo hoo LOL
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Re: Ubisoft vs The Division Cheaters
Apr 30, 2016, 12:20
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Apr 30, 2016, 12:20
 
Hush, guys. You are supposed to celebrate these AAA masterpieces around here or you are either a negative nancy, a "Cutter", "acerbic" or just a straight up troll or asshole (depending on who you ask).
Please do not disturb the latest AAA circle jerk and ruin these guys orgasms.
The Division is totally awesome, of course, as is Star Wars Battlefront. How can you not see the awesomeness that is oozing from every pore?

boohooooo booohooohohooohohoooo u lame ass h8ters!!!1111
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