Beamdog on Siege of Dragonspear Complaints

The Beamdog Forums now offer a statement from Beamdog about the controversy surrounding the Siege of Dragonspear expansion for Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, addressing complaints about a possible social agenda as well as gameplay bugs in the RPG expansion (thanks Rollory). Here's word on both of these aspects of the release:
I'm Trent Oster, CEO of Beamdog.

First off, everyone here is ecstatic to have shipped Baldur’s Gate: Siege of Dragonspear. Siege represents years of hard work by a dedicated team that we grew from a combination of home grown talent, original Baldur's Gate modders and former Bioware developers. Siege of Dragonspear represents more than 25 hours of new Baldur’s Gate gameplay, and more than 500,000 words of writing. I’m proud of our team for launching this great expansion.

We’ve received feedback around Mizhena, a supporting character who reveals she is transgender. In retrospect, it would have been better served if we had introduced a transgender character with more development. This is a lesson we will be carrying forward in our development as creators and we will be improving this character in a future update.

The last few days have showed us how passionately many of our fans care for our games. We've had a lot of great feedback from players who love the expansion and are having a great time experiencing the first new Baldur's Gate story in 15 years. While we appreciate all feedback we receive from our fans, both positive as well as negative, some of the negative feedback has focused not on Siege of Dragonspear but on individual developers at Beamdog -- to the point of online threats and harassment.

I just want to make it crystal clear that Beamdog does not condone this behavior, and moreover that it will not have the desired effect as we stand behind all our developers 100%. We created the game as a group, and moving forward we'll work on the game's issues as a group, which I believe is exactly as it should be.

We’ve received valuable feedback around some bugs we failed to catch for ship. We're hard at work right now patching up the issues that slipped through and we're striving to ship fixes and improvements quickly. We will provide a complete list of the issues we plan to address in our next update. Issues of note we are addressing are:

Multiplayer – We are acting on reports of multiplayer issues and hope to have this fixed in the next update.

Minsc – Minsc has a line which generated controversy. Looking back on the line, we agree with the feedback from our community, it has nothing to do with his character and we will be removing the line.

We hope all our players continue to enjoy Siege of Dragonspear and we look forward to providing an update in the near future.
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Devinoch wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 03:49:

Er, I'm pretty sure you mean regressive right.

I'm not even sure what a regressive leftist would be...

No I mean regressive left. SJW's, radfems, anti-sex leftists, pro-authoritarian leftists, take your pick. They're there. Those whiny kids crying about Trump 2016 and how they're "triggered" yeah, regressive left. The ones who shut down debates by pulling fire alarms and trying "muh safe space" on the left? Regressive left. Politicians screaming "right wing fascists" against any dissenting viewpoint? Regressive left. The feminists out there protesting and attacking women for wanting to show of their sexuality? Yep, more regressive leftists.

Yells "islamophobia" but then attacks and counter protests gays when they're physically assaulted by islamists, regressive left.

The regressive right for all intents is dead, those on the left? Alive, kicking and there are plenty of mainstream politicians echoing their BS as well.

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nin wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 09:55:
Isn't it amazing how stupid he is? On the one hand you're feeding him, but on the other the responses are so comical I can actually see the appeal of stringing him along...

Him using the phase "the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site" is especially humorous/ironic...that part made me laugh out loud. What an idiot.


He's quite something, isn't he? I don't want to feed him but it's good to see nonsense like his, MA's and Wraith's get called out by a number of people occasionally. To remind and reassure myself that the lunatics haven't taken over the asylum as much as anything.
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something something redpill, something something /pol/, something something reddit...

Gods, this is why I hate this sort of garbage. Everyone that thought Beamdog fucked up over this is now shoved into the same group as this guy is. It's kinda fucking depressing.
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Yeah this has gone ever further downhill with so many insecurities discussed. IMO you can focus on this BS drivel and make it part of your life, or you can just look past it and keep it out. Why would you want to bring this unnecessary drama into your life? If it is as bad as you think, then a natural adjustment is right around the corner, the pendulum is always swinging.

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Julio wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 12:10:
There are plenty of websites that exist if you want to see pics of guys in their boxers.

Nah I'm more interested in how the decline of men translates into the decline of muscle mass and the formation of man tits. I strongly suspect there is a correlation. Care to prove me wrong?
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Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 11:52:
It's shit like this that makes me wish there was a forum rule that if you're going to go on and on about the "decline of men", you need to post up to date, verifiable photo(s) of yourself in your boxers first. If you aren't a virile specimen of male strength and beauty

There are plenty of websites that exist if you want to see pics of guys in their boxers.
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Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 11:52:
Wraith wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 11:31:
It's possible to have female friends, but genuine female friends are women you have a mutual respect with - not women you have a secret yearning to fuck.

So men can only be friends with women if the women in question are ugly/sexually unattractive?

Ever wonder what someone like this does if they end up with a woman they feel is attractive reporting to them at a job?

Is it:

* Sexually harass them?

* Fire them in favor of a man or less attractive woman?

* Pay them 77 cents on the dollar?

Or all of the above?
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Wraith wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 11:31:
It's possible to have female friends, but genuine female friends are women you have a mutual respect with - not women you have a secret yearning to fuck.

So men can only be friends with women if the women in question are ugly/sexually unattractive?

It's shit like this that makes me wish there was a forum rule that if you're going to go on and on about the "decline of men", you need to post up to date, verifiable photo(s) of yourself in your boxers first. If you aren't a virile specimen of male strength and beauty, an image of a man all women are yearning to fuck, then you need to work on the decline of your own flabby ass before concerning yourself with the supposed decline of your gender.

It's what a real man would do.
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Wraith wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 11:31:
Beamer wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 09:23:

I always find it interesting that "real men" are the ones convinced that anyone else is only nice to people so it will "gain him pussy."
So you're nice to women and men in equal measure in equal ways are you dude?

Horseshit.


It's like you people (yes, you people) can't fathom someone doing something for reasons other than direct personal gain.
Dude, I don't suffer the illusions about self that you clearly do. Men are nice to women because they want pussy.

It's possible to have female friends, but genuine female friends are women you have a mutual respect with - not women you have a secret yearning to fuck.

Do you "neg" them? Do you mention your bedroom to them, referring to it as "where the magic happens?"

Men like sex. Women also like sex. Yet, I suppose outside of you, we all manage to work together, hang out together, befriend each other, etc., even knowing there may be a sexual attraction that may be one-sided and, regardless, will likely never be acted upon.

Some people can control their urges. Others sit around pining and crying in the shower, unable to do anything or have any experience with the person if it doesn't lead to immediate sex.

Interesting which of those two you deem "real men."
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Beamer wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 09:23:

I always find it interesting that "real men" are the ones convinced that anyone else is only nice to people so it will "gain him pussy."
So you're nice to women and men in equal measure in equal ways are you dude?

Horseshit.


It's like you people (yes, you people) can't fathom someone doing something for reasons other than direct personal gain.
Dude, I don't suffer the illusions about self that you clearly do. Men are nice to women because they want pussy.

It's possible to have female friends, but genuine female friends are women you have a mutual respect with - not women you have a secret yearning to fuck.
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Tachikoma wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 07:20:
It`s truly chilling that we can read such toxic garbage in 2016. Even more reasons to back the occasionally annoying "SJWs".

Of course someone having an opinion that isn't aligned with SJW group think isn't tolerated in your world. 'Truly chilling' that people can think for themselves in 2016.
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Beamer wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 09:23:
I always find it interesting that "real men" are the ones convinced that anyone else is only nice to people so it will "gain him pussy."

Nice try to equate "being nice" = being an SJW male. Two very different things.
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nin wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 09:55:
Isn't it amazing how stupid he is? On the one hand you're feeding him, but on the other the responses are so comical I can actually see the appeal of stringing him along...

Him using the phase "the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site" is especially humorous/ironic...that part made me laugh out loud. What an idiot.


That's all you've got? Your trolling skills are weak.
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Julio wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 05:08:
Devinoch wrote on Apr 7, 2016, 18:34:
Julio wrote on Apr 7, 2016, 16:45:
Devinoch wrote on Apr 7, 2016, 16:13:
"Extremist." God knows when people having equal rights became extremist.

If you think the SJWs want equal rights, I've got a bridge to sell you. It's all about the elimination of men.

I saw "elimination of men" and then obvious troll became TOO obvious. The gig is up.

By "elimination of men", I mean elimination of what men are and what real men are. The SJW focus is about trying to make men weak, powerless, feeling less than equal, not have the ability to single parent their children, and take away their manhood. Sure it will work on the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site, but there are still plenty of us who are real men with spines.

Indoctrination of the young at "educational" institutions, ownership of the media, and now they're putting their extremist beliefs into games. They'll quote bullshit like "women are paid less than men" when they aren't for the exact (and I mean exact) same job.

So what's a real man?
For that matter, what is a real woman?
I assume that by real you don't mean "existing in reality".
Now we donce.
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Wraith wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 09:21:
Julio wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 05:08:
By "elimination of men", I mean elimination of what men are and what real men are. The SJW focus is about trying to make men weak, powerless, feeling less than equal, not have the ability to single parent their children, and take away their manhood. Sure it will work on the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site, but there are still plenty of us who are real men with spines.
Ain't that the truth. The weak male is the natural ally of the feminist - he has no power of his own and hopes that allying with the feminist cause will gain him
pussy. He is, of course, mistaken.

Indoctrination of the young at "educational" institutions, ownership of the media, and now they're putting their extremist beliefs into games. They'll quote bullshit like "women are paid less than men" when they aren't for the exact (and I mean exact) same job.
I think Milo Yiannopolous is right when he says the upcoming great political conflict is not going to be about left versus right, but about cultural authoritarianism (which, granted is primarily driven by the regressive left) and cultural libertarianism.

I always find it interesting that "real men" are the ones convinced that anyone else is only nice to people so it will "gain him pussy."

It's like you people (yes, you people) can't fathom someone doing something for reasons other than direct personal gain.
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Julio wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 05:08:
By "elimination of men", I mean elimination of what men are and what real men are. The SJW focus is about trying to make men weak, powerless, feeling less than equal, not have the ability to single parent their children, and take away their manhood. Sure it will work on the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site, but there are still plenty of us who are real men with spines.
Ain't that the truth. The weak male is the natural ally of the feminist - he has no power of his own and hopes that allying with the feminist cause will gain him
pussy. He is, of course, mistaken.

Indoctrination of the young at "educational" institutions, ownership of the media, and now they're putting their extremist beliefs into games. They'll quote bullshit like "women are paid less than men" when they aren't for the exact (and I mean exact) same job.
I think Milo Yiannopolous is right when he says the upcoming great political conflict is not going to be about left versus right, but about cultural authoritarianism (which, granted is primarily driven by the regressive left) and cultural libertarianism.
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Julio wrote on Apr 8, 2016, 05:08:
By "elimination of men", I mean elimination of what men are and what real men are. The SJW focus is about trying to make men weak, powerless, feeling less than equal, not have the ability to single parent their children, and take away their manhood. Sure it will work on the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site, but there are still plenty of us who are real men with spines.

Indoctrination of the young at "educational" institutions, ownership of the media, and now they're putting their extremist beliefs into games. They'll quote bullshit like "women are paid less than men" when they aren't for the exact (and I mean exact) same job.

It`s truly chilling that we can read such toxic garbage in 2016. Even more reasons to back the occasionally annoying "SJWs".

And the only thing more depressing than the predictable drone who authored this are all the people who silently agree or try to make light out of this issue.

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Devinoch wrote on Apr 7, 2016, 18:34:
Julio wrote on Apr 7, 2016, 16:45:
Devinoch wrote on Apr 7, 2016, 16:13:
"Extremist." God knows when people having equal rights became extremist.

If you think the SJWs want equal rights, I've got a bridge to sell you. It's all about the elimination of men.

I saw "elimination of men" and then obvious troll became TOO obvious. The gig is up.

By "elimination of men", I mean elimination of what men are and what real men are. The SJW focus is about trying to make men weak, powerless, feeling less than equal, not have the ability to single parent their children, and take away their manhood. Sure it will work on the weak-minded males out there including all those coming out of the woodwork on this site, but there are still plenty of us who are real men with spines.

Indoctrination of the young at "educational" institutions, ownership of the media, and now they're putting their extremist beliefs into games. They'll quote bullshit like "women are paid less than men" when they aren't for the exact (and I mean exact) same job.
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Apr 8, 2016, 04:57
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Beamdog: not only a bunch of hacks, but now also spineless pushovers.

Truly pathetic, first bleating on about "we stand behind all our developers 100%" and then caving in because a bigoted mob was butthurt over one line of text.
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