DOOM Uncut for Germany

A Bethesda Deutschland tweet announces DOOM will come to Germany with no content cuts, a first for the violent shooter series. Polygon has more on the news after discussing it with Bethesda's Pete Hines. "We're pleased the game can be released in its entirety in Germany without the need to edit or change anything," Bethesda vice president of marketing Pete Hines told Polygon. "Perhaps not all that surprising given how other titles have been rated there recently, but still a cool thing to see given that Doom and Doom 2 were banned in Germany and were delisted a few years ago."
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Is Germany finally unclenching about violence in video games or something?

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rist3903 wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 01:07:
Is Germany finally unclenching about violence in video games or something?


It is rather puzzling, after their history with games...

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Feb 25, 2016, 02:30
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nin wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 01:10:
rist3903 wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 01:07:
Is Germany finally unclenching about violence in video games or something?


It is rather puzzling, after their history with games...


I remember that I was very surprised when they didn't ban Gears of War 2 in 2008. At that point, things seemed to change.
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Some countries do grow up and not continue to regress to childhood.
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rist3903 wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 01:07:
Is Germany finally unclenching about violence in video games or something?


We haven't had any school shootings or other amok runs that could be blamed on video games in a long, long time so that may have something to do with it (the last "big one" was Winnenden in 2009). Watch this policy get a 180° reversal if and when something happens again. Our politicians (like everywhere else) are opportunistic assholes who are just after short term popularity for the next election. Banning video games just has not been a public interest topic for many years now.

Or maybe it simply has to do with the fact that the game looks shitty enough to not be considered a realistic portrayal of violent acts. I mean it does have to run on Shitbox so that is a very likely possibility actually and all the footage they have shown so far just illustrated what a lame-ass low req garbage port this is going to be.
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If the country lets women get raped and attacked by immigrants then denies it happens....fake violence should be entirely acceptable.
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Ahumado wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:52:
If the country lets women get raped and attacked by immigrants then denies it happens....fake violence should be entirely acceptable.

I'll give that a 5/10...some effort to troll, but not too much.

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after watching a video footage of it, i cant see myself buying it.
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nin wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:58:
Ahumado wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:52:
If the country lets women get raped and attacked by immigrants then denies it happens....fake violence should be entirely acceptable.

I'll give that a 5/10...some effort to troll, but not too much.

Its funny how people dont believe that actually happens here. Well, I didnt either at first.
I assure you, it happens. A lot.
They even admit it. They say they are not reporting about it, are manipulating statistics and let them run to not strengthen the extreme right wingers in their arguments, to preserve peace.
I have given up on waiting for BIS to come back to their senses and do a real ArmA 2 successor.
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Feb 25, 2016, 12:47
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Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 12:11:
nin wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:58:
Ahumado wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:52:
If the country lets women get raped and attacked by immigrants then denies it happens....fake violence should be entirely acceptable.

I'll give that a 5/10...some effort to troll, but not too much.

Its funny how people dont believe that actually happens here. Well, I didnt either at first.
I assure you, it happens. A lot.
They even admit it. They say they are not reporting about it, are manipulating statistics and let them run to not strengthen the extreme right wingers in their arguments, to preserve peace.

I assure you. It does NOT happen a lot. It's about as often an immigrant commiting a crime as it is a German. Of course, nazis and fascists post lies and fake stories about crimes and even use photoshop to forge "proof photos". There are already a lot of websites in Germany dealing with this and exposing the lies like this one (in German), but of course that won't stop idiots from hating and lying. Like always in history, people are afraid of everything new, foreign, and strange and initially react with fear and rejection. That is why immigration and integration are processes that happen over decades and generations.

One thing, of course, is true: criminals are not bound to cultures and nationalities, there are dangerous individuals in every country, culture, and religion. If you write an article with a headline "Immigrant steals purse from elderly lady", most people will go "SEE?! These ungrateful assholes are all scumbags!". You will, of course, never read a headline "US (or German) citizen steals purse from elderly lady", because the fact that it was a fellow citizen is not newsworthy. See how it works?

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Feb 25, 2016, 13:18
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El Pit wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 12:47:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 12:11:
nin wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:58:
Ahumado wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:52:
If the country lets women get raped and attacked by immigrants then denies it happens....fake violence should be entirely acceptable.

I'll give that a 5/10...some effort to troll, but not too much.

Its funny how people dont believe that actually happens here. Well, I didnt either at first.
I assure you, it happens. A lot.
They even admit it. They say they are not reporting about it, are manipulating statistics and let them run to not strengthen the extreme right wingers in their arguments, to preserve peace.

I assure you. It does NOT happen a lot. It's about as often an immigrant commiting a crime as it is a German.

No it's not. Cologne (and Hamburg and many other cities we should not forget about!) was a unique mass rape event without precedence in more recent German history (post WW2).

Secondly, there are areas of crime like burglaries where the percentage of non-German criminals far outweighs the percentage of Germans.

For example, in my Bundesland in Baden-Wuerttemberg, the total number of burglaries in 2015 finally went down by 10% after huge leaps and after setting new records in previous years BUT the number of non-Germans who have been caught is at 55%. We do not have 55% non-Germans in our population (just yet) so this is obviously a case where foreigners are causing WAY more trouble than Germans.

There is also a reason why the secretaries of the interior of both, Bayern and Baden-Wuerttemberg (the two southern most federal states in Germany for those who don't know) have FINALLY entered into a better cooperation and persecution agreement last year in spring. The reason was the huge amounts of property crimes in BY and BW committed mostly by E/SE/S European gangs.
Also: Let us not forget the results of the police checks related to the G7 summit in spring last year. The police registered 6,600 illegal border crossings during that time.

Finally, just open your eyes. Read your local police report. I have definitely noticed a huge increase in crime in my surroundings, especially robberies which used to be rare three, five years ago and now happen every other day.
Or read the book by Tania Kambouri, a German cop who has a migrant background and talks about her every day experience with migrant criminals.

It is completely ludicrous to claim that there are no problems with migrant crimes. It is also true that the media are very one-sided pro migrant (pro Merkel). Until about six months ago I was convinced that we have a free press in Germany and I would have defended it against anyone claiming otherwise. Not anymore.
The police and the media keep sweeping migrant issues under the rug and totally exaggerate when the right wingers as much as dare cough.

Fuck this country at the moment. Seriously.

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Feb 25, 2016, 13:24
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El Pit wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 12:47:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 12:11:
nin wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:58:
Ahumado wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 11:52:
If the country lets women get raped and attacked by immigrants then denies it happens....fake violence should be entirely acceptable.

I'll give that a 5/10...some effort to troll, but not too much.

Its funny how people dont believe that actually happens here. Well, I didnt either at first.
I assure you, it happens. A lot.
They even admit it. They say they are not reporting about it, are manipulating statistics and let them run to not strengthen the extreme right wingers in their arguments, to preserve peace.

I assure you. It does NOT happen a lot. It's about as often an immigrant commiting a crime as it is a German. Of course, nazis and fascists post lies and fake stories about crimes and even use photoshop to forge "proof photos". There are already a lot of websites in Germany dealing with this and exposing the lies, but of course that won't stop idiots from hating and lying. Like always in history, people are afraid of everything new, foreign, and strange and initially react with fear and rejection. That is why immigration and integration are processes that happen over decades and generations.

One thing, of course, is true: criminals are not bound to cultures and nationalities, there are dangerous individuals in every country, culture, and religion. If you write an article with a headline "Immigrant steals purse from elderly lady", most people will go "SEE?! These ungrateful assholes are all scumbags!". You will, of course, never read a headline "US (or German) citizen steals purse from elderly lady", because the fact that it was a fellow citizen is not newsworthy. See how it works?
As I said, they admit it themselves. There are enough articles about it in the German media. Just today a new one about exactly that. Want me to link some?
Welt.de
Youtube
Welt.de
Mainpost.de
Steinhoefel.de
Welt.de
NDR.de
Wikipedia
And much sooner:
Welt.de
In Sweden too:
Focus.de

And even the poverty report is getting attacked because it could give right wingers more facts:
Spiegel.de

Thats only a short selection.

There are also a lot of reports of police whistleblowers who explain exactly whats happening, that such behavior is wanted and forced by the politics.

I mean you can keep ignoring reality, but thats what happens. And youre only supporting it by ignoring it. You also obviously have no idea what else can be justified with such a logic.
They have done the same thing with unemployment statistics for decades too.
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CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 13:18:
Fuck this country at the moment. Seriously.

Hello my AfD friend, you DO know that a lot more rapes in 2015 were commited by Germans than by immigrants? Yes, Cologne was horrible and the hundreds of idiots should be kicked out of the country, but you should understand that out of more than a million immigrants, there HAVE to be criminals among them. No, they are not all saints coming to Germany, just like the Germans are not all saints. But that is how it goes: less than 1% are criminals, so they ALL are criminals. That's exactly how fascism works.

About local police reports: there have been some reports that in some places, police would not report the nationality of criminals being caught to a) not feed the fires already burning (again, people will point out EVERY SINGLE immigrant commiting a crime, because not a single report goes "German Rapes Girl", but would definitely write "Immigrant Rapes Girl" if this shit happens) and b) not to be called racists themselves. But if YOU would check your own newspaper, you might find LOTS of reports by police officers themselves exposing lies about "crimes by immigrants" in their area that actually never happened. Now, some people will say that those officers are bought or put under pressure to lie, but is that not a clear sign of paranoia?

Yes, there are immigrants who will not even accept talking to a female police officer, but so are some German criminals, too. They don't think of women as equal - see, it's not an "immigrant" thing, it's a sexist thing.

Saying that the media, the police, the government are all lying is also sounding pretty paranoid. Even worse than those guys criticizing Windows 10 while using Android mobile phones.

And about those crimes: I've provided a link to a website dealing with fake reports about crimes commited by immigrants. Go, take a look, maybe some stories you heard about shit supposedly going down in your area might be wrong, too.
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Feb 25, 2016, 13:40
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El Pit wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 13:34:
And about those crimes: I've provided a link to a website dealing with fake reports about crimes commited by immigrants. Go, take a look, maybe some stories you heard about shit supposedly going down in your area might be wrong, too.

I do not give a flying fuck about anyone faking anything. I read the official police reports and not some nutjob conspiracy websites.
The Beaver and I have both linked to reputable sources that completely refute all of your claims. We do not need support from right wing nuts. We only need to look at reality and it would help if you would do that, too.
But you don't have to, of course. You can also keep living in your delusional German wonderland where we're playing shiny happy people with all the immigrants.

The choice is all yours and, frankly, I don't care what you do. Reality will catch up with you soon enough.
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Feb 25, 2016, 13:43
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Feb 25, 2016, 13:43
 
El Pit wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 13:34:
CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 25, 2016, 13:18:
Fuck this country at the moment. Seriously.

Hello my AfD friend, you DO know that a lot more rapes in 2015 were commited by Germans than by immigrants? Yes, Cologne was horrible and the hundreds of idiots should be kicked out of the country, but you should understand that out of more than a million immigrants, there HAVE to be criminals among them. No, they are not all saints coming to Germany, just like the Germans are not all saints. But that is how it goes: less than 1% are criminals, so they ALL are criminals. That's exactly how fascism works.

About local police reports: there have been some reports that in some places, police would not report the nationality of criminals being caught to a) not feed the fires already burning (again, people will point out EVERY SINGLE immigrant commiting a crime, because not a single report goes "German Rapes Girl", but would definitely write "Immigrant Rapes Girl" if this shit happens) and b) not to be called racists themselves. But if YOU would check your own newspaper, you might find LOTS of reports by police officers themselves exposing lies about "crimes by immigrants" in their area that actually never happened. Now, some people will say that those officers are bought or put under pressure to lie, but is that not a clear sign of paranoia?

Yes, there are immigrants who will not even accept talking to a female police officer, but so are some German criminals, too. They don't think of women as equal - see, it's not an "immigrant" thing, it's a sexist thing.

Saying that the media, the police, the government are all lying is also sounding pretty paranoid. Even worse than those guys criticizing Windows 10 while using Android mobile phones.

And about those crimes: I've provided a link to a website dealing with fake reports about crimes commited by immigrants. Go, take a look, maybe some stories you heard about shit supposedly going down in your area might be wrong, too.
Oh god, you make obvious that there is no point showing you facts. Blind ideology. Nothing can punch through that. Religious people prove that every day.
Have a nice day, but dont come running here once youre confronted with cold hard reality.
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