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DOOM Uncut for Germany

A Bethesda Deutschland tweet announces DOOM will come to Germany with no content cuts, a first for the violent shooter series. Polygon has more on the news after discussing it with Bethesda's Pete Hines. "We're pleased the game can be released in its entirety in Germany without the need to edit or change anything," Bethesda vice president of marketing Pete Hines told Polygon. "Perhaps not all that surprising given how other titles have been rated there recently, but still a cool thing to see given that Doom and Doom 2 were banned in Germany and were delisted a few years ago."

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65. Re: DOOM Uncut for Germany Feb 29, 2016, 13:37 descender
 
You speak as if talking to an extreme right person.
I wasn't actually speaking directly to you but I'm glad you don't support ignorantly banning entire ethnic groups from anything, you shouldn't. That shouldn't even be considered a right/left decision, that should be a moral/immoral decision. Are you not reading to the other posts in this thread calling for banning Muslim's and the other things I'm actually talking about/responding to? We're one step short of building a wall around Germany in this thread, it is dripping with right-wing talking points of fear and isolationism... of course that is what I and anyone else is going to respond to in the conversation.

It's over-tolerant, pussy shite like this what pisses me off.
And a super-macho cave-man mentality pisses other people off, so we're all out of our comfort zone! /shakeyfist

This scenario you have constructed does not really exist though, and is not being argued by me so... I can't really respond to it the way I would if it were a point I was defending or trying to make. Just because liberal people aren't as willing to make broad-stroke assumptions and enlist knee-jerk reactions to isolated bouts of violence... that doesn't automatically mean they are complicit in the violence that is occurring. That you have to construct that false dichotomy should highlight to you how weak of a position you are really taking. What I don't want to see is innocent people blamed for the actions of a few bad apples. Look how quickly people overreacted and lashed out at me in this thread when I prodded them about merely being cognisant of their own checkered history. They don't want to be stereotyped as Nazi's (and rightfully so) but they have no problem stereotyping all Arabs and Muslims as violent rapists. One can certainly argue that there are large parts of Islam that do not agree with a modern society, but every major religion has those same "beliefs" that they are embarrassed by and sweep under a rug. Pretending that one is worse than the other is just drawing another line in the sand that doesn't really need to exist.

I have never taken issue with anyone someone for simply "being conservative" but I also very rarely find one that can articulate their points in a logical and academically sound manner. It's nice when it happens because then real conversation can happen, not just name-calling and pretending to be better than each other.

I will take issue with anyone that uses unethical and illogical reasons to justify their actions and beliefs. You seem surprised that people actually identify conservatives by their xenophobic (not actually a "bad word") and socially anti-progressive beliefs. These are the main tenants of right-wing conservatism so I don't know how else you would identify yourself as such without them.

These beliefs are NOT inherently bigoted or racist though, and they don't have to be. Unfortunately they very quickly and easily become bigoted and racist when poor justifications are used that stereotype and blame entire groups of people. Especially when people are either not careful with their words or (in the case of this thread) just blatantly ignorant of the things they are saying and the way that they sound to other people.

The people most concerned with "preserving their culture" are also the people most apt to draw a dividing line and come up with a way to justify it. Vilifying those that are different "for being different" is exactly how conservatism works lately in the political realm. I really don't understand why you are so surprised that if you hang out with a naturally racist/bigoted group of people and share their beliefs that you might occasionally both get blamed for and actually (accidentally?) sound like you might be one too.
 
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