descender wrote on Feb 18, 2016, 14:59:
Why do you have to be so overtly aggressive in every response Beaver? You can't seem to have a rational discussion because you are far too defensive about anything that seems to poke outside your little bubble.
I'm having a hard time understanding why we are the ones following a "blind ideology" yet you are the one crying that your country is being "taken over by foreigners". That's called being xenophobic. Nothing you say will change the definition of that word. Xenophiobia is about as blind and narrow-minded as you can be in today's world.
Did you actually suggest that Germans should be given a pass on because they have had a hard time "being judged" since their elected leader tried to take over Europe and murdered millions of innocent people? That's cute. You can't come up with any reason why people might raise an eyebrow when a German starts talking about protecting his countries race and religion?
We live in an era where the country you come from means less and less every day as the global society melds into one. You can try to cling on to the past, but it never works.
You think I am aggressive and defensive? You have the audacity to say I cant have a rational discussion with the shit you guys throw at my head? You play the oh so humane and understanding person here, so go use that empathy and ask yourself why. Maybe because people like you act like you do? Attack me for no reason, because you cant read, because you assume too much? Because you put words in my mouth? Because you push me into a mindset that comes closer to your own real one? I know your country has problems getting cause and effect, always blaming the wrong guys, thinking treating others like shit doesnt justify them treating you like shit as well, but my god, think before you speak!
I am only talking about Islam. The worst form of it, conservative Islam. Have you ever informed yourself a bit about it? What it means? What it tries to achieve? Why Muslim countries are basically stuck in medieval ages? How many Muslims are following it? How many Muslims want Sharia law? How many Muslims want women to obey the men unconditionally? Have you ever read history what happened if people tried to change it? Your country has learned it the hard way several times. Oh wait, no it didnt, it keeps doing the same mistakes, making them even more angry at us. There is a real chance at getting Islam closer to us, but it wont happen if you keep bombing or "couping" the Muslim countries that are getting very western like. You did it with Iran, you did it with Afghanistan (vs. the Soviets), you did it with Libya, you did it with Syria. So before youre trying to save the whole god damn world, you should first get your own country under control. And that wont happen if you just vote for the "Bern".
Again youre proving what I am talking about here all day long. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT RACE OR RELIGION. I AM AGNOSTIC AND I DONT CARE THE SLIGHTEST ABOUT RACE, I THINK WE ALL ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AT BIRTH AND ONLY OUR SURROUNDINGS FORM US DIFFERENTLY! And I also dont say our country is taken over by foreigners, I am saying its taken over by Islam. A huge difference. But differentiating is the biggest enemy of baseless accusations and assumptions, huh? Again you guys put things in my mouth. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you??? If xenophobic means I am afraid of a religion taking over, which is absolutely incompatible with our western values which cost millions of lives to establish, and would mean women could lose everything they have fought so hard for, among many other human rights, then xenophobic I am!!!
I am really getting sick of this shit, do you even realize youre creating your own enemies with presumptuous crap like that, like your fucking government does with terrorists? Holy crap... So unbelievable how stereotypical you guys are...
As I said before, which you obviously didnt read either: I dont care about immigrants as long as they are compatible. Most are. Islam is not. At least not with our western societies. And for the billionth time: Not all are that way, but most. Those who are not, are very welcome here. But if youre seriously suggesting we should welcome rapists and misogynists, people who dont respect people with different religion than their own, see them as sub-humans because their religion dictates exactly that to them, then youre not only a massive hypocrite, youre also someone who will get us into a situation that will be worse than WW2. You cant force something like that. And what you say about globalization is forcing, forced by the neoliberals, who are afraid of a collapsing economy and system, trying to postpone the collapse with all tricks and loopholes they find. It has to come naturally! THATS what your country should have learned from all those useless wars. But they didnt, and neither did you. I said that already. We are still far too much apart from each other, and waging wars in their countries, destabilizing whole regions SURELY DOESNT HELP! I really have no clue whats wrong in your head. Do you want massive death and destruction? Do you hate humans so much? I am starting to think yes, since I know a few human haters. They come up with similar weird fantasies, trying to put themselves as the ultimate good guys, while only aiming for destruction because of their own miserable life.
That you seriously are trying to blame Germans for Hitlers election who werent even born for over 30 years or more, when Hitler was in power, shows where youre really coming from. Youre the actual racist here! Germans are all Nazis? Thanks for that revelation. Wow.... WOW, just WOW....
People like you are closer to Hitler than they will ever realize. Hitler also thought hes doing the best for the world. Forcing shit on people. "We will all live in a completely peaceful world after we are done".
Not sure if you even realize what you utter here, but if I made you think now, I suggest you read more history, psychology and sociology. Much more.
I am all for a Star Trekky world, you wont find anyone, probably not even yourself who would wish for something like that more than me, everyone living peacefully together in prosperity, respecting everyone else, aiming for an even better world for everyone. But it just doesnt work this forced way! It never has. NEVER. People always had to do it on their own free will for it to work, else massive conflicts arose and ended in absolute chaos. Borders are part of our evolution. You cant just put a freshwater fish in salt water and expect it to "deal with it, you tribal stone age saltwaterphobic ape who doesnt want to accept the oh so great salt water!", or a Tarantula with a Scorpion into the same terrarium and expect them to live peacefully together instantly. We are not fucking robots! We are creatures of this planet too, we are part of nature!
Even I as a German see, with all your better integration methods, youre still a deeply divided country because of all this. Sometimes I even think a new civil war is imminent. There only seems to be black and white left. NO NOT THE RACE, the extremes. There is nothing between that anymore. Differentiation is a myth to you guys. And you guys prove that too by pushing me into an extreme too, with unbelievable methods, ignoring completely all the colors and grey shades. Its the only thing you guys seem to be able to understand. Its shocking to say the least.
And now prove again that I wasted even more time.
And again, if you want to get rid of the echo of the shit you yell into the forest, then dont yell shit into the forest. You will find that I am a very peaceful guy, if treated fairly.
I have given up on waiting for BIS to come back to their senses and do a real ArmA 2 successor.