David Gaider Joins Beamdog

The Beamblog announces David Gaider is now a Beamdog, as he has hired on as the new creative director at Beamdog, the folks behind Enhanced Edition remakes of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and Icewind Dale. They are currently working on a game set between the two Baldur's Gates, and we've seen speculation that they may eventually make Baldur's Gate 3, and it's worth noting that David worked on Baldur's Gate 2 while at BioWare. Here's word:
We're very pleased to welcome David Gaider to the company as our new creative director. Originally we advertised for the position of senior writer, but when David contacted Trent about the position, we upgraded the role.

David is well known for his design and writing work on Baldur’s Gate 2, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, and Dragon Age: Origins. He brings 17 years of experience to our little team and we couldn't be happier to work with him. David will lead the writing team and direct new creative endeavors for the company.
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Feb 10, 2016, 19:25
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Jerykk wrote on Feb 10, 2016, 02:00:
Interesting that he went with Beamdog instead of Obsidian. That said, he probably wouldn't have been able to get the same position at Obsidian, whereas he has a lot more leverage at Beamdog. Definitely interested in seeing how Beamdog handles their first original games.

i honestly figured he'd do some indie thing, or maybe focus on his (admittedly quite bad) novels. i remember him saying he was with bioware for too long, ready for new challenges, and he ends up with.. this? stepping back in time to work on an old project with the same old dialog systems he worked on for like 15 years at bioware?
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Feb 10, 2016, 16:02
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SXO wrote on Feb 10, 2016, 08:33:
The ones he wrote, such as HK-47 and Morrigan. If you read the first two Dragon Age novels (which he wrote), you would see there's a huge discrepancy between the quality of the storytelling in the books versus that of the games.

I've read an excerpt from his first Dragon Age novel out of morbid curiosity and it was one of the worst pieces of genre fiction I have ever read, and it's not like genre fiction sets much of a high bar to begin with. On the other hand, I give a wide-berth to the world of fan-fiction, so I'm sure by that standard, Gaider is a fucking genius in comparison. But given that he WAS solely responsible for the abominable (at least if the first chapter of the first book is indicative of his "talents" as a writer) Dragon Age tie-in novels (gee, who could have guessed that a marketing prop for a video game would be terribly written?), I think it's fully justifiable to refer to him as a hack.

The only reason he has any credibility at all is because he works in an industry where the audience generally either doesn't read, or only reads bad genre fiction, occasionally stumbling into the rare work of sci-fi/fantasy, like Dune or Lord of the Rings, which transcends it genre into something actually worth reading. And Gaider is definitely no Tolkien or Herbert; he barely even rises to the level of bad imitator of R.A. Salvatore or Kevin J Anderson, a rather ignominious benchmark.

I suppose such scorn for Gaider is a bit overblown, but I dislike him because he represents the kind of game developer that continues to ensure that gaming is a pastime for children and adolescents, or adults who just want to feel like a kid again for an afternoon. There's nothing wrong with getting in touch with your inner child, but I'd love to see gaming grow up someday, and no, pretentious indie pseudo-games aren't really a step in the right direction. But as long as we have developers of limited artistic maturity, like David Gaider, heading up game development, then we can't expect much from games as an "art form" any time soon.
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Feb 10, 2016, 12:10
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Obsidian would have been a perfect fit in so far as incompetent writer joins incompetent developer.

Poor Beamdog...
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Feb 10, 2016, 08:39
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Feb 10, 2016, 08:39
 
im wondering how they are going to stay within the D&D framework on this, considering how pivotal it is to the old forgotten realms stuff, and BG itself.. as i cant really imagine in 5th edition myself, mainly because of how simplified it is compared to the labyrinthine complexities of 2nd with all its archaic details and so forth

but i dont think its possible to get a license for 2nd edition anymore..

who knows maybe they will anyways - pretty odd tho
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Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Feb 10, 2016, 02:05:
A win, I suppose, for those who like adolescent power fantasies that amazingly still have pretensions of being socially relevant, continually recycled plot structures, and characters that ALWAYS have some sort of traumatic history which the PC has to play therapist for. It still blows my mind that people think this hack has something to contribute to game writing except for keeping it at its current bottom-of-the-barrel standard.
Why are you acting as if Gaider was the sole person responsible for those stories? He wrote some of the characters and some of the questlines. And which characters have time and time again been the most popular? The ones he wrote, such as HK-47 and Morrigan. If you read the first two Dragon Age novels (which he wrote), you would see there's a huge discrepancy between the quality of the storytelling in the books versus that of the games.
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Feb 10, 2016, 06:45
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Jerykk wrote on Feb 10, 2016, 02:00:
Interesting that he went with Beamdog instead of Obsidian. That said, he probably wouldn't have been able to get the same position at Obsidian, whereas he has a lot more leverage at Beamdog. Definitely interested in seeing how Beamdog handles their first original games.

He'd actually have to work to keep up at Obsidian. Judging by his last couple projects, he seems perfectly content to phone it in these days.
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Feb 10, 2016, 06:40
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Well we know that anything done by Beamdog is going to have terrible writing now.
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Feb 10, 2016, 04:08
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I was hoping he was gonna stay out of the gaming industry after his layoff...
Guess he had friends in Beamdog.
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A win, I suppose, for those who like adolescent power fantasies that amazingly still have pretensions of being socially relevant, continually recycled plot structures, and characters that ALWAYS have some sort of traumatic history which the PC has to play therapist for. It still blows my mind that people think this hack has something to contribute to game writing except for keeping it at its current bottom-of-the-barrel standard.
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Interesting that he went with Beamdog instead of Obsidian. That said, he probably wouldn't have been able to get the same position at Obsidian, whereas he has a lot more leverage at Beamdog. Definitely interested in seeing how Beamdog handles their first original games.
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Feb 10, 2016, 00:09
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He clearly feels Beamdog is around to stay, otherwise he wouldn't have left his cush job at Bioware.

Having him on board with a potential BG3 is welcome news.
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Nice resurgence in rpgs lately. May not be perfect, but it's always nice to have choices. Go go moonpoodle!

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