Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition

Just seven games comprise the Steam Top 10 this week, as XCOM 2 holds four of the top five positions on Valve's report on last week's bestselling games. Here's the list:

  1. XCOM 2
  2. XCOM 2: Pre-Order
  3. XCOM 2: Digital Deluxe Pre-Order
  4. American Truck Simulator
  5. XCOM 2
  6. Grand Theft Auto V
  7. Tom Clancy’s The Division
  8. Rise of the Tomb Raider - Standard Edition
  9. Fallout 4
  10. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 13:43
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Feb 7, 2016, 13:43
 
Heh. XCom2 must be selling like 1 cent hotcakes in Mogadishu.
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 13:56
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Feb 7, 2016, 13:56
 
Now I know what I want for breakfast!
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Feb 7, 2016, 14:02
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition Feb 7, 2016, 14:02
Feb 7, 2016, 14:02
 
That is a ton of XCOM 2, but damn its sure is good.

The game is fantastic but also pretty brutal at times. Its very tightly tuned and you can fuck up the campaign easy I think.

Still, its freaking great.
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Feb 7, 2016, 15:05
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Feb 7, 2016, 15:05
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 13:43:
Heh. XCom2 must be selling like 1 cent hotcakes in Mogadishu.

I didn't think there was any food in Somalia, much less hotcakes.
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 15:13
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Feb 7, 2016, 15:13
 
Doma wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 14:02:
That is a ton of XCOM 2, but damn its sure is good.

The game is fantastic but also pretty brutal at times. Its very tightly tuned and you can fuck up the campaign easy I think.

Still, its freaking great.

Definitely easy to fuck it up. Also, the turn timers are unforgiving. Very unforgiving. You will "fail" missions if you don't blitz the damn thing, and even then you will probably lose someone.

Thankfully there's already a mod that boosts the turn timers for each mission, but it adds 4 turns where I think just two would be OK. Or it would be nice if it didn't count concealment turns, but it does (and there's a mod that does that too).

Game is pretty brutal though. Legitimately stressful early on, if you started on a higher difficulty. Tons of replay value. I'm like 15 hours in and still haven't bothered with Psi Operatives, primarily because of major budget issues. I have top tier armor (AFAIK) and half of the plasma weapons, and still struggling at times. I had the Avatar project down to ONE DAY (AKA you lose the game) before I was able to get to a facility to stop it. Intense.
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 15:18
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition Feb 7, 2016, 15:18
Feb 7, 2016, 15:18
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I've done four timer missions and none of them were difficult. The timer only even came into play on the very first one, where my lameass rookies were struggling to kill anything. Maybe it will be an issue later on if/when maps get larger.

And you're an idiot if you buy/bought xcom from Steam. It's still 46 on GMG for NA users, and no doubt cheaper still elsewhere and for other regions.
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 15:37
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Feb 7, 2016, 15:37
 
I've played the training mission, I guess they want you to get used to soldiers dying as you're forced to get two killed. It runs a bit slow on the highest settings for me, but I'm still playing long war, so maybe by the time I'm done with that they'll be some drivers/patches that smooth things out a bit.
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XCOM...
Feb 7, 2016, 16:05
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Feb 7, 2016, 16:05
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Wow, XCOM is that popular? I couldn't get into the original DOS versions. I wonder if I will like the newer games. Are there playable demos of any of the newer XCOM games?
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 16:12
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PHJF wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 15:18:
I've done four timer missions and none of them were difficult. The timer only even came into play on the very first one, where my lameass rookies were struggling to kill anything. Maybe it will be an issue later on if/when maps get larger.

And you're an idiot if you buy/bought xcom from Steam. It's still 46 on GMG for NA users, and no doubt cheaper still elsewhere and for other regions.

Timers never become an issue Finished all timer missions with 2+ turns to spare, and I did not particularly rush ever (Beat the game on Veteran - 28 hours, 30 missions)
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 16:31
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Feb 7, 2016, 16:31
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Some people are saying it's hard, some saying not so hard. I'm guessing it comes down to difficulty and xcom experience.

Pigeon wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 15:37:
I've played the training mission, I guess they want you to get used to soldiers dying as you're forced to get two killed. It runs a bit slow on the highest settings for me, but I'm still playing long war, so maybe by the time I'm done with that they'll be some drivers/patches that smooth things out a bit.
In xcom 1 training mission, you lost your entire squad except for 1, so that's not a change. Depends on difficulty and mods, and how you want to play in terms of how many will die (talking xcom 1, I've not tried 2).
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Feb 7, 2016, 16:31
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Feb 7, 2016, 16:31
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 16:12:
Timers never become an issue Finished all timer missions with 2+ turns to spare, and I did not particularly rush ever (Beat the game on Veteran - 28 hours, 30 missions)
But perhaps you are just a super-genius?!? Congrats on beating it, in seriousness! I'm waiting for a few patches before I try it. Also, good to talk to you again eRe4s3r. My convincing you to play FF13-2 is still something that makes me all happy inside! Best wishes!
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Feb 7, 2016, 16:47
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Feb 7, 2016, 16:47
 
Brumbek wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 16:31:
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 16:12:
Timers never become an issue Finished all timer missions with 2+ turns to spare, and I did not particularly rush ever (Beat the game on Veteran - 28 hours, 30 missions)
But perhaps you are just a super-genius?!? Congrats on beating it, in seriousness! I'm waiting for a few patches before I try it. Also, good to talk to you again eRe4s3r. My convincing you to play FF13-2 is still something that makes me all happy inside! Best wishes!

Hehe I still enjoy FF13-2 every now and then.. and I got Lighting Returns too, I found that substantially less good (though I beat it) ^^

You should wait for patches ,P some of the animation glitches and issues are aggravating, best was when one of the "Viper" enemies "Bound" my soldier, except he has an ability that grants him melee attack when enemy attacks him, so he got dragged towards the viper, the viper binds him, and he slashes it to pieces.. except now for the entire mission he was in the "bound" animation state since the game could not cope with viper being killed by the same guy it's binding... which looked.. very very weird.

Also encountered a few instances where camera would just flat out get utterly confused (with action cam off!) showing me some dark place beneath the map while I had no idea how the reaction shots turned out, or enemies just running through a full overwatch phase, literally running with HP and everything, then a few seconds later it "updates" and they all die in cover.. no crashes and this game, it needs to sit on your SSD, or you get insane load times.

I also need to mention this, but that end-game timer.. you better hope you did your sacrifices to RNGESUS... because that RNG with the dark events can UTTERLY mess with you in the beginning of the game.

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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 17:06
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Doma wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 14:02:
That is a ton of XCOM 2, but damn its sure is good.

Damn buggy, too. Tutorial won't complete for me, just crashes to desktop. I turned it off and was able to get to the base, but there's still bugs and performance problems. Loading a mission takes a while. Alien Activity will sit there for 5+ seconds before anything happens. This on a GTX 980 with an i7 and 24 gigs of memory. I may be waiting for the performance patch before I really play it because right now it's just painful to try to play.
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Re: Steam Top 10 - XCOM 2 Edition
Feb 7, 2016, 17:42
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Feb 7, 2016, 17:42
 
Frijoles wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 17:06:
Doma wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 14:02:
That is a ton of XCOM 2, but damn its sure is good.

Damn buggy, too. Tutorial won't complete for me, just crashes to desktop. I turned it off and was able to get to the base, but there's still bugs and performance problems. Loading a mission takes a while. Alien Activity will sit there for 5+ seconds before anything happens. This on a GTX 980 with an i7 and 24 gigs of memory. I may be waiting for the performance patch before I really play it because right now it's just painful to try to play.

Turn off Anti-Aliasing in the graphics options. It glitches and slows the game to a crazy level. No idea how that slipped through.

Also. I wonder how people like eRe4s3r manage to beat the timer missions(and everything else) so apparently easily. Because it would mean you ran a near perfect game. No one missed critical shots, no one got mind controlled and or panicked and screwed up.

Save scumming? Because I'm guessing that on ironman like I'm playing that is a bit harder to do. I've missed point blank 87% shots. I've had overwatch ambushes where NO ONE hits anything even though all of my squad fired. I've had soldiers shot through high cover. Of course I've also seen the aliens mess up perfect shots but still...either that is some exaggeration or you just reloaded until it came out perfect.

I'm not judging you for save scumming if you did btw, but I just don't get how you ran such a perfect game. You're essentially saying nothing went wrong.
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Feb 7, 2016, 17:44
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This sequel is incredibly unforgiving. First they hold your hand so tightly you're just doing whatever you're told and then without warning they just let you go. I simply got battered with priority missions literally for hours, so much I couldn't even get a breather and just upgrade some weapons and armor or even build facilities. Apart from countries leaving you, XCOM1 was a lot less hardcore and more laid back.

I'm also very annoyed with the breaks between each character's turn. Why the pause of like 4-5 seconds after each fucking miss?

Also, I think it's lame that the enemy always gets a free "getting to cover" turn every time you get within their range. XCOM1 had this too afaik but somehow in that game the enemy didn't butcher your entire squad if you didn't do everything perfectly.

PS: I could swear there's a hidden -10% Aim for the player...
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Feb 7, 2016, 17:53
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its pretty mediocre IMHO

the typical, to-be-expected AAA type crap..

ive got countless gripes with all kinds of details, systems, etc.

the only thing that really impresses me is the destructibility, but thats not new either... more customization is good, progression on characters is ok... but mostly - its just meh
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Feb 7, 2016, 17:58
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PHJF wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 15:18:
I've done four timer missions and none of them were difficult. The timer only even came into play on the very first one, where my lameass rookies were struggling to kill anything. Maybe it will be an issue later on if/when maps get larger.

And you're an idiot if you buy/bought xcom from Steam. It's still 46 on GMG for NA users, and no doubt cheaper still elsewhere and for other regions.

American customers, not NA. It's still $62 for us, so I'll be waiting on it. It's still 60 bucks on the key sites too - yet they still have regional pricing for every other fucking country - it's $15 US for the Russians right now, so fuck Valve.

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Feb 7, 2016, 18:11
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rudra wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 17:53:
its pretty mediocre IMHO

the typical, to-be-expected AAA type crap..

ive got countless gripes with all kinds of details, systems, etc.

the only thing that really impresses me is the destructibility, but thats not new either... more customization is good, progression on characters is ok... but mostly - its just meh

Ah yes..the "I'm such a cool and hardcore gamer that I'm not impressed by anything and I need to let people know that they're enjoying the wrong things" type.

I'm sorry we're not all playing JA 2 or whatever meets your standards for a fun TB game. Be sure to keep letting us know if we're having the wrong fun in the future. We depend on you for things like this!!!
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Slashman wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 17:42:
Frijoles wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 17:06:
Doma wrote on Feb 7, 2016, 14:02:
That is a ton of XCOM 2, but damn its sure is good.

Damn buggy, too. Tutorial won't complete for me, just crashes to desktop. I turned it off and was able to get to the base, but there's still bugs and performance problems. Loading a mission takes a while. Alien Activity will sit there for 5+ seconds before anything happens. This on a GTX 980 with an i7 and 24 gigs of memory. I may be waiting for the performance patch before I really play it because right now it's just painful to try to play.

Turn off Anti-Aliasing in the graphics options. It glitches and slows the game to a crazy level. No idea how that slipped through.

Also. I wonder how people like eRe4s3r manage to beat the timer missions(and everything else) so apparently easily. Because it would mean you ran a near perfect game. No one missed critical shots, no one got mind controlled and or panicked and screwed up.

Save scumming? Because I'm guessing that on ironman like I'm playing that is a bit harder to do. I've missed point blank 87% shots. I've had overwatch ambushes where NO ONE hits anything even though all of my squad fired. I've had soldiers shot through high cover. Of course I've also seen the aliens mess up perfect shots but still...either that is some exaggeration or you just reloaded until it came out perfect.

I'm not judging you for save scumming if you did btw, but I just don't get how you ran such a perfect game. You're essentially saying nothing went wrong.

33 missions and only 9 flawless A lot went wrong. But yeah, I played on Veteran and save-scummed liberally in the sense that I went back turns, sometimes I restarted entire missions from campaign screen (when I notice that my squad selection was stupid ,p). But before you say "whaaaa.. how could you" remember that XCOM 2 has a fixed seed that does not change after a reload. A miss is a miss, when I see that happen I just hunker down or re-position, or go back 2 or more turns and change my entire tactic if it leads to a squad wipe (since that is really game-over). Saved my ass dozens of times. Knowing what enemies tend to do is vital though. Overwatch on elite lancers and heavily armored enemies (instead of triggering them with a run and gun ranger that then just hunkers down) is nearly always a REALLY bad idea.

Also I used battle scanners, Aid protocol, restoration protocol (cures panic) and all that jazz to the extreme. I often ran with 2 specialists as well, since combat protocol on upgraded gremlins does, and that is no typo, 10-11 dmg on robotics, which is (usually) 1 hit kill on super heavy turrets..) not to mention the AID protocol gives you 40+ defense (and later overwatch trigger fire with aim bonus) tons of missions I only won because my ranger had reaction shots and defense (and blade-master ,p) and once sniper gets SERIAL + 120 aim the game goes into easy mode.

Point being, I had a good run with some liberal reloading, but I never save scummed a single action (because that's not possible), it was difficult as fuck. Would actually not suggest playing on Veteran first time... from the stuff I saw on live streams I can assure you that I had some insane luck though. Something I didn't even know until I saw it in another vid is that collaborators in the population can betray you and give away your concealment, if you don't reload when that happens it could definitely be game-over right there...
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