Dacron wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 10:11:

Suppa7 wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:37:

LgFriess wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:01:

Quinn wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:20:
Personally I think E:D is highly overrated and with the stunt they pulled with the pricing on their "expansion" they should get all the heat atm. I paid way too much for a shell of a game with the original E:D and now they ask me to pay the exact same amount again for adding just a tad more depth to a game that was as shallow as a Tunisian mudpuddle to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. So disappointed in E:D.

To be honest anyone who backed elite dangerous should have known that he didn't get anywhere near enough money to make the thing and he was dragging you along if you had any clue how much it costs to make a modern videogame.

To be honest anyone complaining about Elite Dangerous was expecting a totally different game than promised. They pitched a new version of Elite, they delivered 100% minus the offline component.

Just because they don't like it because they thought it would be something different doesn't mean ED/Frontier are to blame. It's like buying Half Life expecting a Super Mario experience then saying Valve dropped the ball because you were hoping for Mario.

ED is just this decades remake of the original, not the BDSSE.

I agree. Back then, it was fresh because no other game was out that produced the graphics, gameplay, and expansiveness. I knew what I was getting into when I backed the Premium Beta package and I'm ok with that. Wasn't thrilled with the "always online" component but my Steam backlog of games is so backed up right now, coupled with kids to take care of that I'm fine if my Internet connection goes out for some time.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 14:50:

MacLeod wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 13:44:

HorrorScope wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 12:34:
To those with actual feedback on the state of the game, thanks. How big is the download?

27gb

That's for the free version. We backers can download the full 35 GB! Not sure what else is included that you aren't getting. Sound like everything is there...

3 cosmetic skins for a ship you still can't fly, an additional garbage scow ship that also doesn't fly, and an added sound effect of Nelson from the Simpsons saying "HA! HA!"

MacLeod wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 13:44:

HorrorScope wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 12:34:
To those with actual feedback on the state of the game, thanks. How big is the download?

27gb

That's for the free version. We backers can download the full 35 GB! Not sure what else is included that you aren't getting. Sound like everything is there...

27gb alpha? I am going to bookmark this thread.

Going to have to switch to celery sticks or something though, cannot tolerate that much popcorn.

HorrorScope wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 12:34:
To those with actual feedback on the state of the game, thanks. How big is the download?

27gb

Dacron wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 10:11:
To be honest anyone complaining about Elite Dangerous was expecting a totally different game than promised. They pitched a new version of Elite, they delivered 100% minus the offline component.

Right, there was a reason why Elite was all that back in its day.

To those with actual feedback on the state of the game, thanks. How big is the download?

So I downloaded this to be silly... Admittedly, the graphics are pretty sweet... but just some thoughts. I think on a whole, it was a bad idea to release this free fly thing with the state the game seems to be in.

You just seemingly get thrown into a world with no tutorial or explanation. Found a way to get to a ship, launched, and then flew around in space doing nothing for a while. Is there some sort of "instant action" thing we can use to get to dogfighting? Maybe? But the game doesn't really tell you. Again, I got that this is "alpha", but if your confident enough to release, you should at least have some sort of tutorial mechanics in play to direct where to go.

Then I went to explore the hanger, and proceeded to watch the ship there float off to the side and sink into the ground. No worries though, because when I jumped, the ship itself (which I wasn't in) bounced back up on top of the floor too.

Again, got it. "Alpha". But releasing something like this isn't going to get people into the game when it seems like a clusterfuck.

Dacron wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 10:11:

Suppa7 wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:37:

LgFriess wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:01:

Quinn wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:20:
Personally I think E:D is highly overrated and with the stunt they pulled with the pricing on their "expansion" they should get all the heat atm. I paid way too much for a shell of a game with the original E:D and now they ask me to pay the exact same amount again for adding just a tad more depth to a game that was as shallow as a Tunisian mudpuddle to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. So disappointed in E:D.

To be honest anyone who backed elite dangerous should have known that he didn't get anywhere near enough money to make the thing and he was dragging you along if you had any clue how much it costs to make a modern videogame.

To be honest anyone complaining about Elite Dangerous was expecting a totally different game than promised. They pitched a new version of Elite, they delivered 100% minus the offline component.

Just because they don't like it because they thought it would be something different doesn't mean ED/Frontier are to blame. It's like buying Half Life expecting a Super Mario experience then saying Valve dropped the ball because you were hoping for Mario.

ED is just this decades remake of the original, not the BDSSE.

This, exactly.

Illumin wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 11:14:

Cutter wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:22:

Vall Forran wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 20:59:
The "haters" are people that will never play the game. Cutter can go sit on his fist.

You're the hater asshole. Like so many other dicks around here, always stirring up trouble and starting fights for fun. Fuck off, troll.

About spit pepsi out my nose over this one. All you bastards leave Sugar tits alone, he's getting his game face on for some S.C.

FIGHT! FIGHT FIGHT!

MajorD wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 11:48:

+1

Cutter wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:22:

Vall Forran wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 20:59:
The "haters" are people that will never play the game. Cutter can go sit on his fist.

You're the hater asshole. Like so many other dicks around here, always stirring up trouble and starting fights for fun. Fuck off, troll.

About spit pepsi out my nose over this one. All you bastards leave Sugar tits alone, he's getting his game face on for some S.C.

Vall Forran wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 20:39:
I just masturbated six times. Oh, sorry, wrong thread.

You must be female. Personally, I never got past three in a row. And that third one was work.

Suppa7 wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:37:

LgFriess wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:01:

Quinn wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:20:
Personally I think E:D is highly overrated and with the stunt they pulled with the pricing on their "expansion" they should get all the heat atm. I paid way too much for a shell of a game with the original E:D and now they ask me to pay the exact same amount again for adding just a tad more depth to a game that was as shallow as a Tunisian mudpuddle to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. So disappointed in E:D.

To be honest anyone who backed elite dangerous should have known that he didn't get anywhere near enough money to make the thing and he was dragging you along if you had any clue how much it costs to make a modern videogame.

To be honest anyone complaining about Elite Dangerous was expecting a totally different game than promised. They pitched a new version of Elite, they delivered 100% minus the offline component.

Just because they don't like it because they thought it would be something different doesn't mean ED/Frontier are to blame. It's like buying Half Life expecting a Super Mario experience then saying Valve dropped the ball because you were hoping for Mario.

ED is just this decades remake of the original, not the BDSSE.

http://i.imgur.com/ehRzUNR.jpg <3

LgFriess wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 07:01:

Quinn wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:20:
Personally I think E:D is highly overrated and with the stunt they pulled with the pricing on their "expansion" they should get all the heat atm. I paid way too much for a shell of a game with the original E:D and now they ask me to pay the exact same amount again for adding just a tad more depth to a game that was as shallow as a Tunisian mudpuddle to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. So disappointed in E:D.

To be honest anyone who backed elite dangerous should have known that he didn't get anywhere near enough money to make the thing and he was dragging you along if you had any clue how much it costs to make a modern videogame.

I imagine the last senior management meeting went something like this:

"Oh my God, our Whales are getting bored and not logging in anymore, what are we going to do?"

"I've got it! Free Weekends, to bring in cannon fodder for the whales to face roll and one shot. Should buy us some time until the next set of ship jpegs are ready for sale."

Quinn wrote on Jan 29, 2016, 21:20:
Personally I think E:D is highly overrated and with the stunt they pulled with the pricing on their "expansion" they should get all the heat atm. I paid way too much for a shell of a game with the original E:D and now they ask me to pay the exact same amount again for adding just a tad more depth to a game that was as shallow as a Tunisian mudpuddle to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. So disappointed in E:D.

Can you say "We need new bodies to drain dry?"

I knew you could.

You see, they've lost all the people who got tired of the lies, design changes versus kickstarter promises, and the repeated delays. I know that I am extremely happy I got 85% of my money back (Yes, they charged me a restocking fee on a virtual unfinished product when I asked for my refund early on. Although my main gripe was the decision to move from the promised dogfighting in space type flight model to full on physics.)

They've also drained most of the whales to the dregs, you can only spend so much for virtual ships after all. I am positive that they will still have the rabid defenders on their side, though; even if you consider the moves they've made since last year to bring in more money, like extremely expensive new ships and splitting the games (want to bet now that the FPS portion gets split also?).

Depending on how much new cash flow this move brings in, I suspect that we see the repeat of Freelancer by the end of 2016 or start of 2017. Chris sells RSI to a major player, stays on until the bare minimum of promised content is complete, and then ditches making games again for a few years.

Slashman wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 01:40:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 30, 2016, 01:30:
They keep having free weekends. Usually a game does that when sales are slowing. This game hasn't even launched yet, and they're doing it.

I'm wondering why they're even bothering. They sure as heck don't need more testers.

They need the money. They're years out from being complete, and burning $2.5M or so per month. It's unsustainable.