MS: New CPUs Will Require Windows 10 (or Linux)

ZDNet has word that Microsoft has figured out another way to strong-arm users into adopting Windows 10, saying some upcoming new CPUs will require Windows 10 (or, you know, Linux). Microsoft explains the move in this blog post which says this shows they are embracing "silicon innovation" (thanks HARDOCP). Harming their contention that this is necessary is word that certain CPUs will be allowed a grace period to run older versions of their operating system:

  • Going forward, as new silicon generations are introduced, they will require the latest Windows platform at that time for support. This enables us to focus on deep integration between Windows and the silicon, while maintaining maximum reliability and compatibility with previous generations of platform and silicon. For example, Windows 10 will be the only supported Windows platform on Intel’s upcoming “Kaby Lake” silicon, Qualcomm’s upcoming “8996” silicon, and AMD’s upcoming “Bristol Ridge” silicon.
  • Through July 17, 2017, Skylake devices on the supported list will also be supported with Windows 7 and 8.1. During the 18-month support period, these systems should be upgraded to Windows 10 to continue receiving support after the period ends. After July 2017, the most critical Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 security updates will be addressed for these configurations, and will be released if the update does not risk the reliability or compatibility of the Windows 7/8.1 platform on other devices.
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Jan 20, 2016, 15:38
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Creston wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 14:19:
I wonder how legal this is. Someone needs to call the Attorney General, tell him to wake up and have a looksee if this isn't just a terrifying abuse of market power.

Yeah, but according to The Official BluesNews Legal Professional, NKD, this is totally fine, perfectly acceptable, and should be entirely expected. What the fuck were you thinking? >:O
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Ant wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 15:05:
Sempai wrote on Jan 16, 2016, 20:43:
Dear Microsoft.

Get cancer.

Sincerely, Eatabowlofdicks.
Linux is cancer according to M$.

[citation needed]
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Re: MS data collection
Jan 17, 2016, 18:17
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Cutter wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 16:58:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 13:42:
I honestly believe it doesn't matter and they shouldn't collect the information without my specific consent.
So when MS sells your medical and genetic information to insurance companies and they refuse to insure you, what then?
Huh? I said I didn't think they should be collecting the information, what more do you want from me?
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Jan 17, 2016, 17:19
JM
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HorrorScope wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 16:30:
Surprise a new O/S for some has issues and for others it doesn't. Only a person that thinks their particular experiences constitutes everyone's is ridiculous.

Hence my earlier comment about anecdotal evidence.
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Jan 17, 2016, 16:58
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Jan 17, 2016, 16:58
 Cutter
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 13:42:
Dmitri_M wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:40:
Some of the people around here should unplug their internet for absolute privacy and not bother with installing an OS because clearly they're simply not that good at it.
El Pit wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 13:07:
So, how many homing pigeons do you have? Beware of the secret NSA cats force!
These comments are no better than the ones from the other end of the spectrum. The reality is somewhere in between.

Do I think Microsoft is planning to steal my private financial information? No. Do I think their automated information tracking without my permission is reasonable? No. While they might honestly believe this information can help them build a better OS, I honestly believe it doesn't matter and they shouldn't collect the information without my specific consent.

So when MS sells your medical and genetic information to insurance companies and they refuse to insure you, what then?
"You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
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Jan 17, 2016, 16:35
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HorrorScope wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 16:30:
Surprise a new O/S for some has issues and for others it doesn't. Only a person that thinks their particular experiences constitutes everyone's is ridiculous.

Yeah, the "I've had no problems, so if you have, you're an idiot" group show a wonderful form of jackassery.

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Jan 17, 2016, 16:30
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Surprise a new O/S for some has issues and for others it doesn't. Only a person that thinks their particular experiences constitutes everyone's is ridiculous.

As for this news, for some reason this whole push to me feels like secretive gov't plans, that this whole consortium has been driven by national security and its plan to pigeon hole us all into a like controlled platform. If true then it becomes a personal decision if you like that or not, some may for some reasons be totally fine, while others may not for their own reasons. We are going that direction as a whole if one likes it or not.
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harlock wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 14:49:
Creston wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 14:19:
I wonder how legal this is.

depends on who gave them the idea in the first place... wink wink nudge nudge

Heh, touche.
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Sempai wrote on Jan 16, 2016, 20:43:
Dear Microsoft.

Get cancer.

Sincerely, Eatabowlofdicks.
Linux is cancer according to M$.
Ant's Quality Foraged Links (http://aqfl.net) & The Ant Farm (http://antfarm.ma.cx / http://antfarm.home.dhs.org).
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Jan 17, 2016, 15:03
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Jan 17, 2016, 15:03
 Ant
 
Meh to the newer stuff like Windows!
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Jan 17, 2016, 14:51
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Jan 17, 2016, 14:51
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Simon Says wrote on Jan 16, 2016, 15:51:
LOLWUT? I spent 5 months trying to get Win10 to work, in 5 months I had to do FIVE, count'em, FIVE formats to start over from scratch because of different showstopping issues popping up. Mind you I was a PC technician, I used to fix PCs for a living, I'm not your average joe user, I know my way around an OS and I don't fret at getting my hands dirty, so to speak.

WinXP to Win7 at release date was smooth sailing, Win7 to 10 at release date was a complete NIGHTMARE.

I'm back on 7 and will be as long as I don't require DX12 and MS gets their POS OS together.

Also, if the block is in software and not in hardware, as is claimed here, you can bet people are going to release modified versions and/or tools to bypass these measures.

I spent less than a day building my new Win10 from scratch. Not a SINGLE, count'em, NOT ONE issue. I do gaming, streaming, and Java development all without issue.

You know what they say about anecdotal evidence.
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Creston wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 14:19:
I wonder how legal this is.

depends on who gave them the idea in the first place... wink wink nudge nudge
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I wonder how legal this is. Someone needs to call the Attorney General, tell him to wake up and have a looksee if this isn't just a terrifying abuse of market power.
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Dmitri_M wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:40:
Some of the people around here should unplug their internet for absolute privacy and not bother with installing an OS because clearly they're simply not that good at it.
El Pit wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 13:07:
So, how many homing pigeons do you have? Beware of the secret NSA cats force!
These comments are no better than the ones from the other end of the spectrum. The reality is somewhere in between.

Do I think Microsoft is planning to steal my private financial information? No. Do I think their automated information tracking without my permission is reasonable? No. While they might honestly believe this information can help them build a better OS, I honestly believe it doesn't matter and they shouldn't collect the information without my specific consent.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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NKD wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:23:
CJ_Parker wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:16:

Sounds to me more like you're a Microsoft shill making up stories to get people to upgrade (see I can make some really dumb assumptions, too).
But, seriously, this always reminds me of those people who are completely blind fanbois. Like when a game comes out that has a few dozen reproducible bugs that will always happen to every single person using the program regardless of hardware because it is a software issue but then you have people like you here who will claim that the game has zero bugs and is running flawless 100% of the time. Whatever. If it helps you sleep better at night then nightie night with your flawless Win 10!

When a game comes out as a buggy mess, everyone knows about it instantly. Meanwhile, Windows 10 has been out a while and the only articles we've seen about it on Blue's are about the privacy issues.

Where are the articles about Windows 10 being a buggy incompatible mess as alleged by some folks in this thread? Why aren't they submitting those articles to Blue to post?

oh i'm sorry, you like something from a major corporation? you haven't had any problems? obvious shill!

yeah, surprise, every new software has issues. Welcome to the PC. Welcome to the world of trillions of hardware configurations. Yes hardware, if it was inherent in the software, then I think we'd hear a bit more about the same exact bug happening to over 100,000,000 people by now *eyeroll*

Fact is the pros far outweigh the cons at this point, and the real payoff is in the next 10 years, when we get everyone on the same damn OS, then that makes things infinitely easier for all manner of software developers.

keep your eyes on the prize.
For your transgressions you shall be labeled a shill, called an idiot and anytime you mention facts or disagree with a tribe member you will henceforth be known as a troll. The best you can hope for is that the labels won't haunt your offspring. -RedEye9
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Jan 17, 2016, 13:07
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Cutter wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:57:
El Pit wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:45:
Dmitri_M wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:40:
Some of the people around here should unplug their internet for absolute privacy and not bother with installing an OS because clearly they're simply not that good at it.

I guess that the same people don't use mobile phones and use homing pigeons instead of e-mails or whatsapp.

And what's unreasonable about having an expectation of respect for basic privacy which is both a human right, and more importantly, need? People shouldn't have to read through pages of legal boiler plate to see if a company is spying on them. They shouldn't be permitted to do so in the first place. If it's all so harmless why don't they come out from moment one with a clear and easy to read disclaimer. At the very least the should be required to do that by law.

BY AGREEING TO USE THIS PRODUCT AND/OR SERVICE YOU HERBY CONSENT TO WAIVE ALL AND ANY RIGHTS TO YOUR PRIVACY. YOU FURTHER CONSENT THAT WE MAY USE ANY ALL INFORMATION WE ACQUIRE TO BE SOLD FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND/OR FURNISHED TO ANY GOVERNMENT AT ANY TIME AT OUR SOLE DISCRETION.

How many people do you think would be cool with that knowing they're living their life under a microscope. Not many.

So, how many homing pigeons do you have? Beware of the secret NSA cats force!
"There is no right life in the wrong one." (Theodor W. Adorno, philosopher)
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi)
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Jan 17, 2016, 13:03
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javajeff wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 10:02:
There is no reason NOT to upgrade for FREE. Windows 10 works just like all other versions of Windows. As a Linux Mint fan, I dual boot with no issues.

My secret to enjoying Windows will always be Acronis True Image. I can revert to a perfect Windows install at any time. The people that do not buy an imaging tool for the Windows world will have more aggravation.

In the Linux world, I can do a fresh install at any time since all my settings are on my /home partition. For people that do not understand Linux, I never lose data or settings and a fresh install takes 10 minutes. After a fresh install, I queue my software in my software store, and go watch TV for a few minutes. It is very different than Windows, and as someone that has used Linux since the 90s, I can say that Fresh installs are way less aggravation than what you go through with Windows. Do yourself a favor and get an imaging solution.

Smart words, I fully concur.
For your transgressions you shall be labeled a shill, called an idiot and anytime you mention facts or disagree with a tribe member you will henceforth be known as a troll. The best you can hope for is that the labels won't haunt your offspring. -RedEye9
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Jan 17, 2016, 12:57
 Cutter
 
El Pit wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:45:
Dmitri_M wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:40:
Some of the people around here should unplug their internet for absolute privacy and not bother with installing an OS because clearly they're simply not that good at it.

I guess that the same people don't use mobile phones and use homing pigeons instead of e-mails or whatsapp.

And what's unreasonable about having an expectation of respect for basic privacy which is both a human right, and more importantly, need? People shouldn't have to read through pages of legal boiler plate to see if a company is spying on them. They shouldn't be permitted to do so in the first place. If it's all so harmless why don't they come out from moment one with a clear and easy to read disclaimer. At the very least the should be required to do that by law.

BY AGREEING TO USE THIS PRODUCT AND/OR SERVICE YOU HERBY CONSENT TO WAIVE ALL AND ANY RIGHTS TO YOUR PRIVACY. YOU FURTHER CONSENT THAT WE MAY USE ANY ALL INFORMATION WE ACQUIRE TO BE SOLD FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND/OR FURNISHED TO ANY GOVERNMENT AT ANY TIME AT OUR SOLE DISCRETION.

How many people do you think would be cool with that knowing they're living their life under a microscope. Not many.
"You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
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Jan 17, 2016, 12:45
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Jan 17, 2016, 12:45
 El Pit
 
Dmitri_M wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:40:
Some of the people around here should unplug their internet for absolute privacy and not bother with installing an OS because clearly they're simply not that good at it.

I guess that the same people don't use mobile phones and use homing pigeons instead of e-mails or whatsapp.
"There is no right life in the wrong one." (Theodor W. Adorno, philosopher)
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi)
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NKD wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:23:
CJ_Parker wrote on Jan 17, 2016, 12:16:

Sounds to me more like you're a Microsoft shill making up stories to get people to upgrade (see I can make some really dumb assumptions, too).
But, seriously, this always reminds me of those people who are completely blind fanbois. Like when a game comes out that has a few dozen reproducible bugs that will always happen to every single person using the program regardless of hardware because it is a software issue but then you have people like you here who will claim that the game has zero bugs and is running flawless 100% of the time. Whatever. If it helps you sleep better at night then nightie night with your flawless Win 10!

When a game comes out as a buggy mess, everyone knows about it instantly. Meanwhile, Windows 10 has been out a while and the only articles we've seen about it on Blue's are about the privacy issues.

Where are the articles about Windows 10 being a buggy incompatible mess as alleged by some folks in this thread? Why aren't they submitting those articles to Blue to post?

Because it's stable and quite good.

Some of the people around here should unplug their internet for absolute privacy and not bother with installing an OS because clearly they're simply not that good at it.
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