Well.. Nvidia pulled this once.. good to see AMD drivers are "improving"

*coughs*

It also resets your monitor refresh rate to 60 anytime you change something, grr. I was scrolling through web pages and getting this lag and thinking 'Wtf?' Check refresh rate, there we go. They obviously needed a lot more QA on these drivers first.

Is AMD following the QA methodology that Microsoft used when developing Windows 10. "Advanced Microsoft Developers"

God damn, AMD is trash. Their drivers have always been shit, but it seems like they're getting progressively worse these days. There's a reason they're cheaper, folks. Not worth the headaches or the risk if you ask me.

NVidia killed a bunch of cards with a fan controller problems on WHQL 196.75 and 320.18, people still use their cards. I'm sure if you go back you can find tons of problems on both sides, and they'll always be worse on the other guys side. Sometimes a bug slips through, and it's bound to hurt someone. It sucks when it happens.

I'm using the Crimson drivers with my r9 290, and I'm not having any problems, it's pretty much 100% better than Catalyst so far.

I've not noticed any issues with mine, but I've not really looked. I'll have to do some testing check temps when I get home. Really sucks for the people who lost cards from this. If they're out of warranty I doubt they'll get any compensation.

I hadn't noticed any issues on two different systems (R9 290 and 7950). Just checked the fan setting and the manual setting is correctly off. Restarted the PC and the settings didn't change. I am not seeing any refresh-rate issues either which someone else mentioned here (running at 112Hz, it doesn't change)

Thankfully my GPUs aren't affected by this problem.

ForgedReality wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 12:35:
God damn, AMD is trash. Their drivers have always been shit, but it seems like they're getting progressively worse these days. There's a reason they're cheaper, folks. Not worth the headaches or the risk if you ask me.

nVidia has had similar driver bugs before and I've had plenty of issues with nVidia drivers this year, with the driver crashing on the desktop.

Any effort by AMD to improve their drivers should be applauded, not criticised.

ForgedReality wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 12:35:
God damn, AMD is trash. Their drivers have always been shit, but it seems like they're getting progressively worse these days. There's a reason they're cheaper, folks. Not worth the headaches or the risk if you ask me.

Then don't buy AMD. I have a sneaking suspicion you haven't been a Radeon owner in quite a while (if ever) because AMD's drivers haven't had any trouble for the last two or three years. Why is it that AMD's (or I should say ATI's, god I miss them!) driver problem from way back in the 9800PRO/XT days still comes up any time there's a driver issue while everyone seems to gloss over the absolute garbage nVidia's FX -series was?! Need I remind you that you could blow dry your hair with an FX-series card?

Honestly, if the only thing bad you guys can keep pulling out of the bin is something that was over ten years ago, that's probably a good thing. In any event, I haven't had any problems with my system whatsoever.


=-Rigs-=

I've rarely had issues with ATI/AMD drivers and I've been using them on and off since the X1900 days. The only time I have a problem is when I install a new set and forgot to run the installer as admin which causes some to not install.

However, much can be said about their driver delivery in regards to newly released titles and how they seem to drag their ass. Took them, what, nearly a week to pull Fallout 4 out from the gutter?

Rigs wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 16:23:
In any event, I haven't had any problems with my system whatsoever.

are you suggesting this means that AMD has no problems whatsoever? since they dont affect you personally? you think everyone that claims to have these heat issues is full of shit?

because really, you sound like a complete fucking moron

I realize this is anecdotal, but I had my first ever red screen of death yesterday while running the Crimson drivers and the beta Fallout 4 patch.

I've been running a CrossFire setup for two years now and it's been...interesting. It's absolutely fantastic when it works, but ATI AMD seems to have intermittent driver issues, especially in relation to CF. Also, they were really slow to begin addressing framerate latency compared to Nvidia.
CF-issues, slow profile releases, CF missing in certain releases...
Unless there is a significant price/performance ratio, I think my next card purchase will be some type of SLI setup.

Still having that feeling that the drivers are a little jankey,
Ray

This comment was edited on Nov 30, 2015, 17:50.

When you are behind in market share (and AMD is) you have to be better than the competition. You can't make mistakes. You can't release products just as good or almost as good as the leader.

To succeed from behind, you need to be better. You need to be faster, cheaper, or more stable. You need to give people a reason to change brands.

AMD needs to step up its game if it wants to regain significant market share. We all want to successful GPU manufacturers. Someone needs to be there to keep the leader in line.

GPUs aren't religion. We don't need evangelists. We need people to be honest about hardware, drivers, and their experiences with the product. We need to hold the manufacturers accountable with our wallets when they don't meet expectations.

I'm truly sorry that AMD has been struggling. I've been using nVidia for years but would readily jump to a more compelling, competitive option.

Pretty sure a 3xx.xx driver fried my sister's Nvidia GTX 260.

Videocard companies are using us as their QA testers. It's free!

Rigs wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 16:23:

ForgedReality wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 12:35:
God damn, AMD is trash. Their drivers have always been shit, but it seems like they're getting progressively worse these days. There's a reason they're cheaper, folks. Not worth the headaches or the risk if you ask me.

Then don't buy AMD. I have a sneaking suspicion you haven't been a Radeon owner in quite a while (if ever) because AMD's drivers haven't had any trouble for the last two or three years. Why is it that AMD's (or I should say ATI's, god I miss them!) driver problem from way back in the 9800PRO/XT days still comes up any time there's a driver issue while everyone seems to gloss over the absolute garbage nVidia's FX -series was?! Need I remind you that you could blow dry your hair with an FX-series card?

Honestly, if the only thing bad you guys can keep pulling out of the bin is something that was over ten years ago, that's probably a good thing. In any event, I haven't had any problems with my system whatsoever.


=-Rigs-=

You're right, AMD would never release notoriously hot and loud GPUs! Oh wait, you don't have to go back 10 years for that...

290X

7970

6870

5870

jacobvandy wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 19:36:
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You're right, AMD would never release notoriously hot and loud GPUs! Oh wait, you don't have to go back 10 years for that...

290X

7970

6870

5870

And all of them pale in comparison to the Champion of Noise, nVidia's inimitable nV30...! Known affectionately as "The Leaf Blower"...in 3d gaming circles everywhere...;)

Do they, though? I'm well aware of the mythos, but I was trying to find actual measurements of the noise and came up with a couple saying it was no louder than modern leaf blower coolers at 58-60 dB. As they pioneered the technique, it seems that old fan made a more annoying whirring sound at its highest RPM, but it doesn't surprise me that the root of the joke is good, old-fashioned exaggeration.

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 30, 2015, 09:26:
Well.. Nvidia pulled this once.. good to see AMD drivers are "improving"

Nvidia pulled it twice actually. And they still have the TDR problem nearly 3 years later.

TDR issues must be very limited. In ~15 years of nVidia GPUs from various vendors I have only seen the driver crash a couple of times and ONLY when a game crashed (mostly older games) and dragged the driver with it (= the game's fault). The driver restarted and recovered in less than a second so it was a complete non-issue every time.

I'm betting that, as usual, the real TDR issue is actually sitting in front of the screen and fucking around with nVidia Inspector to the point where the driver gives the dude the finger because of all the n00bness.

As for the AMD Crimson driver issues, well, this is why I have had nVidia GPUs exclusively in the past 15+ years .