jacobvandy wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 13:01:

BobBob wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 12:21:
All zoos, in every form, should be closed.

Most ignorant statement of the morning! Many zoos/sanctuaries are saving the lives of animals and/or keeping them from extinction, and letting people pay a few bucks to come look at them helps pay for the self-less work they do. Don't throw the baby out with the [abusive corporate profiteering] bathwater...

There is a massive difference between sanctuaries vs zoos. If it was up to me, I'd have sanctuaries were if you want to see the animals, you go and do a zoo keepers job for a day.

mark gil wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 19:48:
"That's never gonna happen."

the same was once said about women voting, a black president and legalized gay marriage. hopefully one day soon the human race will wake up and stop exploiting all of the other species on this planet for our own selfish, trivial pleasure and profit.

i think it speaks volumes to realize that if the human race disappeared from the earth tomorrow, every other species would immediately greatly benefit from our absence, as this satirical but all too accurate short animated video shows: the same was said about women voting, a black president and legalized gay marriage. hopefully one day soon the human race will wake up and stop exploiting all of the other species on this planet for our own selfish, trivial pleasure and profit.

i think it speaks volumes to realize that if the human race disappeared from the earth tomorrow, every other species would immediately greatly benefit from our absence, as this satirical but all too accurate short animated video shows:
the same was said about women voting, a black president and legalized gay marriage. hopefully one day soon the human race will wake up and stop exploiting all of the other species on this planet for our own selfish, trivial pleasure and profit.

i think it speaks volumes to realize that if the human race disappeared from the earth tomorrow, every other species would immediately greatly benefit from our absence, as this satirical but all too accurate short animated video shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU

Well, we ain't going anywhere and neither are zoos.

One of the best episodes

"That's never gonna happen."

the same was once said about women voting, a black president and legalized gay marriage. hopefully one day soon the human race will wake up and stop exploiting all of the other species on this planet for our own selfish, trivial pleasure and profit.

i think it speaks volumes to realize that if the human race disappeared from the earth tomorrow, every other species would immediately greatly benefit from our absence, as this satirical but all too accurate short animated video shows: the same was said about women voting, a black president and legalized gay marriage. hopefully one day soon the human race will wake up and stop exploiting all of the other species on this planet for our own selfish, trivial pleasure and profit.

i think it speaks volumes to realize that if the human race disappeared from the earth tomorrow, every other species would immediately greatly benefit from our absence, as this satirical but all too accurate short animated video shows:
the same was said about women voting, a black president and legalized gay marriage. hopefully one day soon the human race will wake up and stop exploiting all of the other species on this planet for our own selfish, trivial pleasure and profit.

i think it speaks volumes to realize that if the human race disappeared from the earth tomorrow, every other species would immediately greatly benefit from our absence, as this satirical but all too accurate short animated video shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU

sanctuaries exist for the non-human animals whom they have rescued while zoo's exist for human animals interested mostly in profit. most people are unaware at the tremendous suffering that confined animals are subjected to in zoo's where they are treated as exhibits as opposed to intelligent, sentient beings. for example, many zoo's sell their older "exhibits" to canned hunts or to be murdered so their flesh can be sold in order to make room for younger, more profitable ones.

here is a great article on this subject which summarizes the state of affairs:
"Zoos are captivity and entertainment centres where collections of wild animals are exhibited in solitary, often in solitary confinement, with the main aim of satisfying the curiosity of visitors. Animals exhibited in these facilities are subject to complete control and live in very different conditions from those in which they live in the wild.
Captivity suppresses the natural instincts of wild animals.
Animals suffer permanent frustration because they have no freedom of choice and cannot behave as they would do in their natural environment. This leads to a tendency toward genetic, physical and behavioural degeneration."

http://www.addaong.org/en/what-are-we-denouncing/zoos-are-like-prisons/

BobBob wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 12:21:
All zoos, in every form, should be closed.

That's never gonna happen.

Agent.X7 wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 11:44:
Whoop! Tomb Raider and Fallout just arrived via UPS. Holy crap is the TR box big! And the Pip Boy is AWESOME!

woot :-) hope you have a ball man, :-) enjoy dude!

With the fake Ubisoft copyright notice, I'm not going trust that there's anything legit about that.

* REMOVED *
This comment was deleted on Nov 10, 2015, 17:16.

jacobvandy wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 14:04:

Cutter wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 13:21:
Tom Clancy's The Division Beta Signups

You're welcome.

Thanks, but looks like you need a key. I've gleaned you get one for pre-ordering, people on G2A are selling them for a couple bucks a piece, and I found a site that is giving them away for "free" (you need to complete one of those bullshit mailing-list-hell surveys)... I'll just keep an eye out for a legit giveaway somewhere.

Oh, I thought you could sign up anyway - I did - without one. Just that a code guaranteed you a spot. Can you post that site? Thanks.

Yeah, sounds like it might be something specific to that game not allowing mouse and gamepad inputs at the same time. Try switching off of mouse control and see if you have better luck.

Something tells me that FO4 is going to have this same exact problem based on some comments I've seen. 2 hours to install?! Yeesh.

descender wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 13:24:
A lot of the reviews of the controller are playing madmax. Is it not recognizing it or is it some other issue? I found one thing about not being able to run/walk and control the camera at the same time if you have the right trackpad set to mouse control.

Games are going to have to stop shutting down the unused control set if this thing is going to work out. :/

Huh, I'll have to play around with it. It will mouse look with the right pad, but the stick does nothing and all the other buttons are messed up. To be honest, I haven't spent much time doing anything else but Tomb Raider right now. Hey, it's the biggest reason I still have an XBONE. I just finished the Uncharted remasters and the new TR series is my second favorite.

Besides, Fallout 4 took 2 hours to install, and now I am waiting for SCII - Legacy to install.

I couldn't call out - but I am really tired today!

Cutter wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 13:21:
Tom Clancy's The Division Beta Signups

You're welcome.

Thanks, but looks like you need a key. I've gleaned you get one for pre-ordering, people on G2A are selling them for a couple bucks a piece, and I found a site that is giving them away for "free" (you need to complete one of those bullshit mailing-list-hell surveys)... I'll just keep an eye out for a legit giveaway somewhere.

A lot of the reviews of the controller are playing madmax. Is it not recognizing it or is it some other issue? I found one thing about not being able to run/walk and control the camera at the same time if you have the right trackpad set to mouse control.

Games are going to have to stop shutting down the unused control set if this thing is going to work out. :/

Tom Clancy's The Division Beta Signups

You're welcome.

Well, Steam controller doesn't work with Mad Max. Damn.

jacobvandy wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 13:01:

BobBob wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 12:21:
All zoos, in every form, should be closed.

Most ignorant statement of the morning! Many zoos/sanctuaries are saving the lives of animals and/or keeping them from extinction, and letting people pay a few bucks to come look at them helps pay for the self-less work they do. Don't throw the baby out with the [abusive corporate profiteering] bathwater...

People that engage in such activities (directly or indirectly) should be severely
punished. You don't put the victim in jail to protect him from the criminal.

BobBob wrote on Nov 10, 2015, 12:21:
All zoos, in every form, should be closed.

Most ignorant statement of the morning! Many zoos/sanctuaries are saving the lives of animals and/or keeping them from extinction, and letting people pay a few bucks to come look at them helps pay for the self-less work they do. Don't throw the baby out with the [abusive corporate profiteering] bathwater...

All zoos, in every form, should be closed.