We can confirm that #Fallout4 will have pre-loading on Xbox One, PS4, and PC so you have a few days to download the game before 11/10
Kosumo wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 21:26:Kxmode wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 20:51:
I'll have to wait to buy closer to release. I dropped $1,400 on acar paymentinternet pew pew space ship that ended any kind ofplayeating money for October. I'm hell bent on beingdebt freean elite Star Citizen (with no pubes).PrioritiesChrist Roberts and the Cult of White Knights first.
Fixed that for you
Kosumo wrote on Oct 27, 2015, 04:01:
A Fallout 4 size game I would think would cost $45 - $70 million to make plus marketing* (just a guess, what do other think?)
Jerykk wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 23:30:
Not sure what you're expecting. When was the last time a BGS game didn't get raving reviews and tons of GotY awards?
harlock wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 20:45:Creston wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 20:27:harlock wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 19:21:
i have near zero interest in this.. which is a shame considering its in the Fallout series and i fucking loved that damn game when it came out.. it was like "WOW NEW RPG GAMES ARE GOING TO BE SO AWESOME NOW!!!"
yeh, so it didnt quite work out like that... as always, money ruins everything
I don't think that's really true. Not all RPGs have turned out the way of the old Fallout, but there's plenty of really good RPGs still. Witcher 3 is an obvious one that comes to mind.
And the sad reality is that Fallout 1 and 2 sold very poorly. Other than a Kickstarter, we'd have never seen a sequel to it in their vein.
of course nothing is black and white.. i knew witcher would come up and yeh thats a great game, num 3 was amazing - but honestly i consider those games in their own category since you are role-playing a deeply established character
my main point is the technical level of achievement in F2 has really not been surpassed, and only a few games come close - and again, its not perfect - but there is a particular blend of many many choices all interacting together, in terms of (especially) dialog, characterization, play style, and the open endedness of it all
it really was a high water mark, ive played them again recently and this is no nostalgic bullshit - those games had a shitload of work poured into them - and they were made for nerds, not brosters and console kiddies, so there was no dumbing down, no hand holding, and no fear of presenting the player with a lot of complexity or difficulty
and actually another one of these high water marks that has never been surpassed is Jagged Alliance 2... same deal, play it today and you will understand
of course if you cant deal with "shitty graphics" or whatever then none of this makes sense anyways... and honestly im not interested in a debate, im not looking to convince anyone of anything... make up your own minds, fucking live it up while you can
Kosumo wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 23:34:Creston wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 22:53:
I think there's still a market for games like that, but it'll have to come through smaller projects like Kickstarters. No publisher really seems to want to cough up the cash for something like them.
Firaxs/Take 2 with X-COM:Enemy Unknown and the up coming sequal show that there are larger publishers willing to invest money it to that style of game.
Bethesda just was not know for that style of game so made it more in the style that they where known for. (Also, maybe it was a better fit for console gamers as sad as that sounds - I know Fallout: Botherhood of Steel, came out on consoles, did any of the others?)
I still agree with what you said in general. I'm sure that the Fallout universe is a long long way form dying out now. (how long was the gap between the last Fallout game before Fallout 3 and Fallout 3?)
I'd be keen to see a Firaxs Fallout game (isometric) with Chris Avolle (you guys know who I mean) as a spin off.
Creston wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 22:53:
I liked JA2. I think Alpha Protocol, despite having pretty bad gameplay sections, did a great job at really tying things together as well. But neither one of those sold well either. :\
Creston wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 22:53:
I think there's still a market for games like that, but it'll have to come through smaller projects like Kickstarters. No publisher really seems to want to cough up the cash for something like them.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 23:19:Pineapple Ferguson wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 22:23:
This game is sure to have some amazing day one review scores!
I'll be waiting to see what comes up on opencritic, especially with the BS going on with metacritic these days.
Pineapple Ferguson wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 22:23:
This game is sure to have some amazing day one review scores!
harlock wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 20:45:
of course nothing is black and white.. i knew witcher would come up and yeh thats a great game, num 3 was amazing - but honestly i consider those games in their own category since you are role-playing a deeply established character
my main point is the technical level of achievement in F2 has really not been surpassed, and only a few games come close - and again, its not perfect - but there is a particular blend of many many choices all interacting together, in terms of (especially) dialog, characterization, play style, and the open endedness of it all
it really was a high water mark, ive played them again recently and this is no nostalgic bullshit - those games had a shitload of work poured into them - and they were made for nerds, not brosters and console kiddies, so there was no dumbing down, no hand holding, and no fear of presenting the player with a lot of complexity or difficulty
and actually another one of these high water marks that has never been surpassed is Jagged Alliance 2... same deal, play it today and you will understand
of course if you cant deal with "shitty graphics" or whatever then none of this makes sense anyways... and honestly im not interested in a debate, im not looking to convince anyone of anything... make up your own minds, fucking live it up while you can
Undocumented Alien wrote on Oct 26, 2015, 22:01:
I never finished Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout:NV, or Skyrim... why would I get this?