Razumen wrote on Oct 22, 2015, 10:21:
Sometimes I wonder why I read the comments here, there's so much negativity and pessimism everywhere. Reading the board is like an exercise in masochism.

Anyways, I am sad that they never released this game, even though ti was purportedly pretty much complete. This footage more so than the one here gives a much better view of what could've been.

Sure, EA's Battlefront isn't going to live up to that, but I can't blame them because they weren't involved in BF3, and the game we're getting now is still pretty good.

reason will always prevail over childish antagonistic loathing. the problem is only when all rational posters are too disgusted to raise their hand.

these trolls, some who proclaim to be founders of the scene are the ones destroying it. I don't understand why they're so angry. gaming went from such a wonder to such a cesspool. And it's not even "the kids" who are toppling it over, it's the sad old fucks who are leading the charge.

and yes, I remember the vid you posted, it's a much better glimpse into what was going on at free radical before the doors closed. I would have played it if they finished it.

Sometimes I wonder why I read the comments here, there's so much negativity and pessimism everywhere. Reading the board is like an exercise in masochism.

Anyways, I am sad that they never released this game, even though ti was purportedly pretty much complete. This footage more so than the one here gives a much better view of what could've been.

Sure, EA's Battlefront isn't going to live up to that, but I can't blame them because they weren't involved in BF3, and the game we're getting now is still pretty good.

No one cares about getting your approval, you're confused about the status of who is a troll.

and for the record, it's REALLY FUCKING NICE to see you normals pop out of the woodwork to post some reasonable, rational thoughts. you guys keep me coming back. Sometimes the trolls who've lived on this board for entirely too long just walk around like they own the place. And it's always a good start to my day when i see people talking rationally about things.

i'm no good at drawing, but I imagine I could conecpt-out a pretty good meme for this thread. it's go something like this:

on the left, a topless Justin Trudeau, smoking a joint, and getting blown by a supermodel.

on the right, a festering aborted fetus.

in the middle is ultimate troll guy, pointing to the fetus with a speech bubble saying: "SO BETTAR!"

Razumen wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 19:29:

DangerDog wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 17:29:

Razumen wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 17:03:

TangledThorns wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 16:57:
The problem with Battlefront is that its Battlefront. Needs to be more tactical like Battlefield. How could DICE screw something like that up? Oh wait, EA

So the problem with the game is that it's just like the game it's based off of? Oh wow...

Other than being 3rd person / 1st person shooter set in the Star Wars universe it doesn't have much more in common with the original Battlefront games - which were more or less Battlefield games with Star Wars skins.

Oh come off it, the original ones were just the same, you ran around and pew pew'd your lasers at enemies until someone one. I agree that there's less overall features in the new one, but the gameplay is really not that different core wise.

no argument from me, some people call those features "depth" when in actuality there are usually just one or two classes that are effective to use. It's not like you're going to follow around an AT-AT with a repair torch, that would look pretty damn stupid.

DangerDog wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 17:29:

Razumen wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 17:03:

TangledThorns wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 16:57:
The problem with Battlefront is that its Battlefront. Needs to be more tactical like Battlefield. How could DICE screw something like that up? Oh wait, EA

So the problem with the game is that it's just like the game it's based off of? Oh wow...

Other than being 3rd person / 1st person shooter set in the Star Wars universe it doesn't have much more in common with the original Battlefront games - which were more or less Battlefield games with Star Wars skins.

Oh come off it, the original ones were just the same, you ran around and pew pew'd your lasers at enemies until someone one. I agree that there's less overall features in the new one, but the gameplay is really not that different core wise.

Let's be honest, the Battlefront franchise has never been very good. This new footage is no exception and shows why the game was cancelled. It's not like we're talking about 1313, which looked amazing.

What people don't seem able to accept is that EA's Battlefront is meant to be casual. It's not for hardcore Battlefield players - it's meant for children, for casual gamers, for Star Wars fans and those who don't typically game. The fidelity is exceptional, the gameplay well-paced and it actually makes decent use of the IP. As much as I hate EA I have to give them credit for Battlefront.

People here are just too jaded that they don't realise a decent game when it comes along. Games don't have to have depth to be fun.

Razumen wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 17:03:

TangledThorns wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 16:57:
The problem with Battlefront is that its Battlefront. Needs to be more tactical like Battlefield. How could DICE screw something like that up? Oh wait, EA

So the problem with the game is that it's just like the game it's based off of? Oh wow...

The problem is that it's a dumbed-down version of an already fairly casual game.

Razumen wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 17:03:

TangledThorns wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 16:57:
The problem with Battlefront is that its Battlefront. Needs to be more tactical like Battlefield. How could DICE screw something like that up? Oh wait, EA

So the problem with the game is that it's just like the game it's based off of? Oh wow...

Other than being 3rd person / 1st person shooter set in the Star Wars universe it doesn't have much more in common with the original Battlefront games - which were more or less Battlefield games with Star Wars skins.

TangledThorns wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 16:57:
The problem with Battlefront is that its Battlefront. Needs to be more tactical like Battlefield. How could DICE screw something like that up? Oh wait, EA

So the problem with the game is that it's just like the game it's based off of? Oh wow...

The problem with Battlefront is that its Battlefront. Needs to be more tactical like Battlefield. How could DICE screw something like that up? Oh wait, EA

DangerDog wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 16:10:

Task wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 15:53:
What people are referring to, regarding Battlefront III, I think are some of its ideas/mechanics/features - not its graphics. I think that part is pretty clear. Where-as the new Battlefront has pretty graphics with a totally gutted feature set in comparison, which to me seems more like a cash-in for the new movie hype until DICE moves on to something else.

I think it plays more to the idyllic dream or fantasy of a Star Wars game, the ability to transition from planet into space for example while really cool sounding might not play as well as one would imagine, at least not for a round based multiplayer game where matches are expected to last around thirty minutes to an hour. You could break it down in stages where you either start on the planet and transition up to a ship or vice versa, that might work.

I agree, having land to space transitions as well as ground/air and space battles sounds like more of a Planetside type game to me, which would be awesome, but I liked the Beta's more focused approach as well.

Task wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 15:53:
What people are referring to, regarding Battlefront III, I think are some of its ideas/mechanics/features - not its graphics. I think that part is pretty clear. Where-as the new Battlefront has pretty graphics with a totally gutted feature set in comparison, which to me seems more like a cash-in for the new movie hype until DICE moves on to something else.

I think it plays more to the idyllic dream or fantasy of a Star Wars game, the ability to transition from planet into space for example while really cool sounding might not play as well as one would imagine, at least not for a round based multiplayer game where matches are expected to last around thirty minutes to an hour. You could break it down in stages where you either start on the planet and transition up to a ship or vice versa, that might work.

From what I've read it sounded like Battlefront III was crippled from management continually changing the game under the developers feet. There might have even been in fighting politics between Lucasarts and Free Radical over which Star Wars game received the most attention, Force Unleashed won apparently.

Anyways, I find the tug of war between people arguing for a Battlefield clone and what DICE ultimately came up with amusing but completely irrelevant. Keep sharpening your pitchforks, maybe eventually your grassroots campaign to topple the corporate overlords of AAA gaming will succeed.

What people are referring to, regarding Battlefront III, I think are some of its ideas/mechanics/features - not its graphics. I think that part is pretty clear. Where-as the new Battlefront has pretty graphics with a totally gutted feature set in comparison, which to me seems more like a cash-in for the new movie hype until DICE moves on to something else.

Cyanotetyphas wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 14:59:
I guess hardcore is lying on the tarmac with your knife out waiting six minutes for a jet to spawn out of thin air on top of you, pressing E the entire time because there's two other idiots just like you jumping around trying to get it first?

Not saying the coming retail one is without problems but this one looks pretty rough too. It looks like a BF1942 mod that's not working quite right yet.

I agree the spawn camping for vehicles was shite and of course the TKing that went with it. So we need them to implement a system that tracked players in the vehicle spawn area so that it is first come first serve. Because I would much rather have an old style Battlefield game over the current Call of Battlefront shite.

People keep fawning over this alpha version of Battlefront III, it looks like a game from 2004. Yes graphics don't make a game but seriously this would have been panned by reviewers for how dated it looks.

This is more of a copy of Battlefield than what the current iteration of Battlefront from EA looks like, I thought people were unanimously hating on DICE for expecting a version of Battlefield with Star Wars skins, make up your mind! Personally I would have been content with a Battlefield : Star Wars edition game ... but oh people cried bloody murder over Hardline, an obvious reskinned version of Battlefield. derp

I do find if funny how some ex Free Radical employee is fanning the flames of the fire.

Game was canceled, Lucasarts is dead, Let it go

I guess hardcore is lying on the tarmac with your knife out waiting six minutes for a jet to spawn out of thin air on top of you, pressing E the entire time because there's two other idiots just like you jumping around trying to get it first?

Not saying the coming retail one is without problems but this one looks pretty rough too. It looks like a BF1942 mod that's not working quite right yet.

One youtuber was talking about how the current vehicle pickup system keeps the battle flowing fluidly as opposed to players standing around spawn points waiting for a vehicle to spawn. I have to agree that it's a good thing for this game's case.

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 21, 2015, 11:18:
Yeah it looks way better than the trite garbage they are going to release in a few weeks. For example no retarded power-ups. See how the dude actually walked up to the snowspeeder, hopped in and took off from the hangar? The way it is meant to be played.
EA/DICE can keep their fucking stupid casual garbage moron-friendly half-bred rip-off abortion of Battlefront.

I dunno, I had a lot of fun playing the beta. There's nothing wrong with having a game you can just jump in for a few quick fun rounds. Not everything needs to be Battlefield or Counterstrike.