Hideo Kojima's Konami Exit

Hotbed of gaming news The New Yorker reports that the other shoe has finally dropped on the Hideo Kojima situation, saying the famed developer's last day with Konami was October 9th (thanks GameSpot via nin). Joking about the source aside, the article provides an in-depth analysis of the circumstances that could lead to a rift between a game company and such a highly regarded developer, which in part has to do with an increased emphasis on mobile games from Konami. The story concludes with an outlook on Kojima's future, quoting an employee of a completely different Japanese developer:
It’s likely that, after Kojima’s non-compete clause expires, in December, he will find a new studio and continue making lavishly produced games. But these future projects will be anomalies in a mobile-dominated Japanese market. Although Western fans may mourn the loss, McCarthy doesn’t share their despondency. “Honestly, I am not so sure that any threat to yet another shouting, shooting game full of American grunts saving democracy from the wiles of dark-skinned terrorists is any great loss to the art,” he said.
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Oct 20, 2015, 10:41
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So actually Japan's working conditions are alot like Milton from Office Space. Instead of just telling somebody they are done, you make there life so miserable they nearly want to burn the building down?
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Oct 20, 2015, 08:18
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NewMaxx wrote on Oct 20, 2015, 06:49:
edaciousx wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 20:58:
They get moved to a position they hate and hope that they will let themselves out, kind of like what happened with Kojima.

Actually a pretty common policy in Japan.

I seem to remember reading some pretty crappy stories about people basically getting moved into a closet/storage room to do menial tasks until they quit, basically degrading their working conditions forcing them to quit.

I remember it being not so much moving them to a new position, more like just putting them in an empty box until they get depressed, snap and quit because it's better than firing someone.
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Oct 20, 2015, 06:49
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edaciousx wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 20:58:
They get moved to a position they hate and hope that they will let themselves out, kind of like what happened with Kojima.

Actually a pretty common policy in Japan.
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Oct 20, 2015, 06:31
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Oct 20, 2015, 06:31
 
Ohh man the rage inducing fest at the end of the Article by thius McCarthy clod.

“But there has always been a huge iceberg of titles beneath the surface that Western gamers rarely glimpse.… The growing cost of console development, allied to a shrinking domestic market, have made these games increasingly unviable without international success.”

Along with what Blue already quoted. This is why Japan is an isolated market to begin with. That line of thinking is why its all Mobile shovelware, micro-transaction crap that company's settle on. There is a market here for decent Japanese produced games. And not for this Visual novel crap on steam or RPG maker engine games, Japan can produce better.

And to Domestic sales being down, yeah its a Mobile market in Japan, make your games more World friendly. But typical Japanese thinking means it stays locked behind region locking and thinking translation are not worth the effort. And thus thinking Japan is awesome and the rest of the world "Doesn't get it"

This was Kojima's Magnum-Opus, I think it should be appreciated as such. Its not a perfect game, but its one you can tell he loved.

And to McCarthy I say this "Honestly I think Japan is abnormally so far up its own rear that we do not need your games, its no loss to the art ether"
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Oct 20, 2015, 06:08
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Oct 20, 2015, 06:08
 
Companies only care about making a profit.

If they can push out low cost phone crap and make significantly more money and in a shorter timespan than a multi-year console game development that takes nearly $100M to make, the company will do so.

Even if something breaks even or is slightly profitable, companies will move on to different projects because they want to focus on a newer or different project that could make even more money.
Television does this all the time. Bigger ratings and chasing demographics.
It's a horrible prospect for the gaming community and speaks to Japan primarily playing "games" on cell phones, but it's not like the market is demanding more from them...

Wondering if everybody has ADHD and doesn't care about quality,
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Oct 20, 2015, 04:23
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 22:34:
Overon wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 20:58:
But I don't understand why he's so highly regarded. I don't think the metal gear games are good, especially the plots, which I think are terrible. I have seen better plots in anime. I don't get it clearly.

HERETIC! UNBELIEVER! Actually, I'm with you. They remind me of the fan fiction written by 14 year old boys.

12 year old boys. HK just discovered boobs and weirdness yesterday and hasn't talked to a woman in his entire life.

Which is weird, cuz he just discovered boobs and weirdness yesterday for years.
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Oct 20, 2015, 01:29
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Nowdays making money doesnt take much effort as far as what gameplay one have to do, I hope Hideo finds himself at a studio where he will have full freedom of time and design this time around. Frankly, latest MGS gameplay was horrid.
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Oct 20, 2015, 00:18
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Oct 20, 2015, 00:18
 
Would have loved to see Silent Hills
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Oct 20, 2015, 00:02
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edaciousx wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 20:58:
NegaDeath wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 18:41:
End of an era. And now Konami becomes a gambling machine/mobile developer. Yikes. Can't fault them for going where the money is but it's tough to watch such a longtime and high quality developer go this way.

my friend works at konami and i'm down the street from it. I hear the us hq is pretty jaded. a lot of people there just want to stay there for the great benefits and not much else. sad. and people get forced out, no one really gets fired. They get moved to a position they hate and hope that they will let themselves out, kind of like what happened with Kojima.

Interesting. My friends at Japanese companies usually dislike the benefits, as many Japanese companies give the minimum legally required.

This is when European companies are great
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Oct 19, 2015, 23:36
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jdreyer wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 21:37:
This makes no sense to me. The Phantom Pain has sold millions and millions of copies, and the game has been hailed as one of the best games of the year. And, although it's not the greatest indicator, the Metacritic score is 93. By all accounts this is a massive success in the gaming world, and they're canning the creator and director of the series?
Did you miss this part of the article?
A financial report from Mixi, the company behind Japan’s current top mobile game, Monster Strike, suggests that the company is expected to make around one and a half billion dollars per year from this single title in Japan alone.
In other words, why go through all the pain and expense of creating a blockbuster if you can spend a tiny fraction and make ridiculously more? Look at it from the business perspective. Grow or die.
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Oct 19, 2015, 22:34
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Overon wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 20:58:
But I don't understand why he's so highly regarded. I don't think the metal gear games are good, especially the plots, which I think are terrible. I have seen better plots in anime. I don't get it clearly.

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Oct 19, 2015, 22:19
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jdreyer wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 21:37:
This makes no sense to me. The Phantom Pain has sold millions and millions of copies, and the game has been hailed as one of the best games of the year. And, although it's not the greatest indicator, the Metacritic score is 93. By all accounts this is a massive success in the gaming world, and they're canning the creator and director of the series?
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This makes no sense to me. The Phantom Pain has sold millions and millions of copies, and the game has been hailed as one of the best games of the year. And, although it's not the greatest indicator, the Metacritic score is 93. By all accounts this is a massive success in the gaming world, and they're canning the creator and director of the series?
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Oct 19, 2015, 21:01
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NegaDeath wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 18:41:
End of an era. And now Konami becomes a gambling machine/mobile developer. Yikes. Can't fault them for going where the money is but it's tough to watch such a longtime and high quality developer go this way.

End of an era indeed. But now Kojima can go make any kind of game he wants to make elsewhere. Maybe it's a good thing he got away from konami.

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Oct 19, 2015, 20:58
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I'm sure he will land on his feet. But I don't understand why he's so highly regarded. I don't think the metal gear games are good, especially the plots, which I think are terrible. I have seen better plots in anime. I don't get it clearly.
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Oct 19, 2015, 20:58
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NegaDeath wrote on Oct 19, 2015, 18:41:
End of an era. And now Konami becomes a gambling machine/mobile developer. Yikes. Can't fault them for going where the money is but it's tough to watch such a longtime and high quality developer go this way.

my friend works at konami and i'm down the street from it. I hear the us hq is pretty jaded. a lot of people there just want to stay there for the great benefits and not much else. sad. and people get forced out, no one really gets fired. They get moved to a position they hate and hope that they will let themselves out, kind of like what happened with Kojima.
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Oct 19, 2015, 19:09
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Oct 19, 2015, 19:09
 
I for one want more "anomalies" and it seems Konami and the Japanese development market in general are less and less able to actually produce those.

Because we sure as hell don't have enough of those in the vein of metal gear solid

Too bad really. It's the end of Konami as a developer with international success. If they think the future lies in mobile market then all the better for them, but mobile won't be forever profitable.

And seriously, considering how retarded many Japanese devs act when they release games on Steam... it seems the "market" in Japan in general has to learn by fire how to do success on a true international sales platform. (Like JAST for example)

Ps.: Hoping this means Kojima will run a KS

This comment was edited on Oct 19, 2015, 19:20.
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End of an era. And now Konami becomes a gambling machine/mobile developer. Yikes. Can't fault them for going where the money is but it's tough to watch such a longtime and high quality developer go this way.
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HIT THE LEVER
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