Rigs wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 13:27:
...I don't have enough time in the day to keep track of their mobile line or SSD performance or whatever it was Lansbury and Tacosalad were talking about...
That's an interesting sobriquet you've chosen for me, Rigs. I'm not entirely sure what I, personally, have done to earn it but thank you.
You should make the time because SoCs are going to be the mainline source of income for any chip manufacturer in the very near future. For some companies, that is already a fact. Without that mainline source of income for a chip manufacturer, niche products like video cards are going to be less and less important until they disappear entirely.
I'll give you an example. Intel, the largest hardware technology company ever, is focusing more and more on SoCs. They've flat out stopped making motherboards that aren't server or workstation class boards, and even then those boards are in limited designs and quantity. They are focused, in the consumer space, on the NUC design because it allows them to showcase their SoC/embedded/micro design and manufacturing capabilities. They've even taken it in to the enterprise sector with the Xeon D, which you can read about here
. That's all on 14nm, by the way. What's AMD down to now? 28nm?
Iris Pro has always been targeted at the embedded/SoC/AIO/micro markets with the small benefit of being able to integrate it in to consumer oriented products as/if needed. Is it going to be performance gaming oriented? Hell no, but then most of the world's users aren't performance gaming oriented. They want to be able to play low stress games like Candy Crush, Minecraft, and other titles like it. Iris Pro will do that easily and in a tablet form or laptop form or even a cell form and it will do it with some pretty low power consumption? What does AMD have to counter that? All I hear is crickets.
Even if you wanted to narrowly compare AMD's ATi offerings against Nvidia's offerings, AMD is getting their ass handed to them there as well. Nvidia is refining and boosting their Tegra line (as I mentioned upthread with their X1) which is going in to Google's latest line of tablets. "But I don't buy Google tablets because..." doesn't matter. Other people do or other second tier manufacturers use them as reference designs for their own products if they aren't already going with Intel's solutions. The Surface Pro line is arguably the most powerful tablet cum laptop design in the world right now and it uses Intel's solution. If you buy a non-Pro, you're getting an Nvidia solution with the Tegra line. What does AMD have to compete with the entire tablet market? Nothing.
"B..b..but VIDEO CARDS!" OK, let's take a look at them. Here
is a comparison between a R390 and a 970. The R390 looks pretty good, right? But the 970 isn't the top of the line for Nvidia is it? Nope, that'd be the 980Ti. So let's bump the Radeon down to an equivalent class. That would be the 380. Here
is that comparison. Uh oh, looks like the 970 destroys the R380 in absolute performance. Ouch.
Let's do top of the line. 390X versue 980GTX Ti. Well, here
are those results. Pretty decent but AMD knew what the 980 series was going to be capable of because they had nearly a year since the launch of the 980GTX (non Ti) versus when they released the 390X. Again, ouch. The R390 is comparative to a one year old card and they released it this
You've admitted that you're a fan boy and that's OK. I'm a Raiders fan and have been for years. However good the Raiders might look this year, it doesn't prevent me from honestly admitting that the Raiders have sucked for a very, very long time. I'm honestly not trying to antagonize you but you come off as pretty shrill and militant in your support of AMD. It makes you come off as a frothing, glazed eyed hype monkey. I've seen many of your posts over the years and, normally, you come across as a fairly rational person but in this thread...not so much.
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