Sepharo wrote on Sep 20, 2015, 15:13:

Paranoid Jack wrote on Sep 20, 2015, 13:07:

Sepharo wrote on Sep 19, 2015, 19:13:
I use my own modem and router with Comcast.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJHDZSI/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9WCR6/

I have the same brand of router. I have the Motorola SURFboard eXtreme Wireless Cable Modem & Gigabit Router SBG6580. How long have you had your account? I just signed up again a couple months ago and they refused to let me use mine.

My account for 6+ years, my modem for just a year I think.
Just hook it up, call in, and say you need to add a modem to your account. You give them the MAC address etc, and you should be set.

Yeah, that is how it worked for me last time I signed up. This time the rep told me it was not compatible. Guess it wouldn't hurt to give it another try. Worse case scenario they knock out my service for a little while. Last time I just hooked it up and never had to call them. I used mine and returned their modem to the local Comcast sales/billing office. Either way thanks again.

Paranoid Jack wrote on Sep 20, 2015, 13:07:

Sepharo wrote on Sep 19, 2015, 19:13:
I use my own modem and router with Comcast.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJHDZSI/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9WCR6/

I have the same brand of router. I have the Motorola SURFboard eXtreme Wireless Cable Modem & Gigabit Router SBG6580. How long have you had your account? I just signed up again a couple months ago and they refused to let me use mine.

My account for 6+ years, my modem for just a year I think.
Just hook it up, call in, and say you need to add a modem to your account. You give them the MAC address etc, and you should be set.

Sepharo wrote on Sep 19, 2015, 19:13:
I use my own modem and router with Comcast.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJHDZSI/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9WCR6/

I have the same brand of router. I have the Motorola SURFboard eXtreme Wireless Cable Modem & Gigabit Router SBG6580. How long have you had your account? I just signed up again a couple months ago and they refused to let me use mine.

I use my own modem and router with Comcast.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJHDZSI/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9WCR6/

jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 04:58:

Paranoid Jack wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 23:04:
These fiber lines getting vandalized has been going on for a lot longer than they are letting on. I remember several being cut in the San Jose area while a contract was being negotiated several years ago. It may have been 2009 but I think it was before that even. I remember because they publicly blamed employees.

As far as the ISPs forcing the use of their equipment... Comcast is doing the same thing. I have an all in one router. I shut down my internet and when I turned it back on just a few months later they told me that my equipment was not compatible with their network. So they are basically forcing me to lease theirs for $10 a month. Still wondering why the CPUC has not stepped in. My assumption is because the internet is still mostly non-regulated.

This is kind of your thing though, right? If anyone could figure out a way around not renting a router, it would be you, no? Also, were you ever involved in fixing those cut lines? How do people even know where they are?

Since 1984 nobody has been required to rent a phone or have the local provider work on their interior wires beyond the demarcation unless they chose to. You can do the work yourself or hire somebody from the phonebook/internet. Also you buy your own equipment because it is just cheaper to do so. I am fairly certain this has been the case for the entire fifty states. And I am fairly certain there has never been a requirement to rent the modem from the telephone or cable providers. In the past they would sell it to you or just give it to you as part of the promo. The cable providers would always lease you one or allow you to use one you have purchased. That is why the modems/routers are still available in stores. But in the past year there has been a shift and they are forcing the issue. They will no longer sell you an ADSL 2+ modem. Nor will Comcast let you use your own.

Years ago Comcast rebranded their internet Xfinity and at&t rolled out U-Verse. These products were in no way regulated. That is why they separated them from their regulated products. Because they are internet service nobody can stop them from now forcing you to lease a modem/router.

Why would you want to rent a modem/router? Other than the device belonging to the provider who has to replace it if it goes bad there is no reason to. Modems last for years. I once had an old ADSL modem for six years before upgrading. Not to mention with the Comcast least router you are now running a wifi hot spot from your home for all to use. Not really sure what you are getting at?

Those cut fibers are construction repairs or the fiber crew. Not the same part of the company. So no I only worked on fiber to the prem. Which hasn't seen much growth for a decade thanks to the housing market crash. Not even sure they will continue to roll it out as it was originally designed since it was very short sited. Only 32mbps to each house in this area. They are now reconfiguring or retrofitting it to supply double or triple that by changing the fiber hubs and changing out the ONT at the prem.

This comment was edited on Sep 19, 2015, 17:59.

Paranoid Jack wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 23:04:
These fiber lines getting vandalized has been going on for a lot longer than they are letting on. I remember several being cut in the San Jose area while a contract was being negotiated several years ago. It may have been 2009 but I think it was before that even. I remember because they publicly blamed employees.

As far as the ISPs forcing the use of their equipment... Comcast is doing the same thing. I have an all in one router. I shut down my internet and when I turned it back on just a few months later they told me that my equipment was not compatible with their network. So they are basically forcing me to lease theirs for $10 a month. Still wondering why the CPUC has not stepped in. My assumption is because the internet is still mostly non-regulated.

This is kind of your thing though, right? If anyone could figure out a way around not renting a router, it would be you, no? Also, were you ever involved in fixing those cut lines? How do people even know where they are?

These fiber lines getting vandalized has been going on for a lot longer than they are letting on. I remember several being cut in the San Jose area while a contract was being negotiated several years ago. It may have been 2009 but I think it was before that even. I remember because they publicly blamed employees.

As far as the ISPs forcing the use of their equipment... Comcast is doing the same thing. I have an all in one router. I shut down my internet and when I turned it back on just a few months later they told me that my equipment was not compatible with their network. So they are basically forcing me to lease theirs for $10 a month. Still wondering why the CPUC has not stepped in. My assumption is because the internet is still mostly non-regulated.

Tumbler wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 12:25:
>More California fiber optic cable severed as AT&T offers 250K reward.

So that is where the network congestion is coming from! That's why they're throttling those unlimited data plans! Curse you vandals!

I'm on ATT dsl and have noticed a lot of weird internet issues, wonder if it's related to this or just my equipment. ATT Uverse DSL only allows you to use their equipment which I'm 99% sure is total shit. I bought a new modem hoping to use that instead and learned that they won't let you config your own equipment for dsl.

Very frustrating.

Yeah, me too. Yesterday.

>More California fiber optic cable severed as AT&T offers 250K reward.

So that is where the network congestion is coming from! That's why they're throttling those unlimited data plans! Curse you vandals!

I'm on ATT dsl and have noticed a lot of weird internet issues, wonder if it's related to this or just my equipment. ATT Uverse DSL only allows you to use their equipment which I'm 99% sure is total shit. I bought a new modem hoping to use that instead and learned that they won't let you config your own equipment for dsl.

Very frustrating.