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BobBob wrote on Sep 19, 2015, 00:22:
My understanding is that the order in which the ingredients listed reveals the quantity for greater to smaller. If you see sugar listed before fruit it means it's made of more sugar. Is that not correct?
By law, yes. Unsure if it refers to weight or volume. Regardless, you should eat jam instead of jelly. Still has the whole fruit in it. Also, they make less-sugar and low-sugar jams.
Or just use a little honey. Despite it's sweetness, it's only got a GI of 50, less than banana. And I find I need less than half the amount of jam.
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PHJF wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 23:07:
You know what, I made my own peanut butter once. It tasted exactly like a jar of Jif, except mine was grainy and oily (because I don't have an industrial-strength food processor). And Jif has a whopping 3g of sugar per 2tbsp, which is roughly 8% of the sugar content of a can of Coke, and 6% of daily sodium. Just because a food isn't stocked in Heavily Bearded Hipster John's Coop doesn't mean it's going to give its consumers diabetes and heart disease.For example, I often see jelly that is sold at a discount but when looking at the label, I notice that sugar is listed as the first ingredient.
Jelly is like one part sugar to one part fruit. That's like saying you saw a sweet tea with a ton of sugar in it.
My understanding is that the order in which the ingredients listed reveals the quantity for greater to smaller. If you see sugar listed before fruit it means it's made of more sugar. Is that not correct?
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You know what, I made my own peanut butter once. It tasted exactly like a jar of Jif, except mine was grainy and oily (because I don't have an industrial-strength food processor). And Jif has a whopping 3g of sugar per 2tbsp, which is roughly 8% of the sugar content of a can of Coke, and 6% of daily sodium. Just because a food isn't stocked in Heavily Bearded Hipster John's Coop doesn't mean it's going to give its consumers diabetes and heart disease.
Jelly is like one part sugar to one part fruit. That's like saying you saw a sweet tea with a ton of sugar in it.
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For example, I often see jelly that is sold at a discount but when looking at the label, I notice that sugar is listed as the first ingredient.
Jelly is like one part sugar to one part fruit. That's like saying you saw a sweet tea with a ton of sugar in it.
This comment was edited on Sep 18, 2015, 23:12.
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 22:01:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:21:
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
Sounds expensive. You should just make your own.
Thanks for the link. I will give it a try!
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BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:21:
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
Sounds expensive. You should just make your own.
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BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:21:jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 12:45:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 11:10:
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
Skippy? Or Jif?
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
Choosy moms choose tofu... amirite?!
The most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.
BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:21:jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 12:45:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 11:10:
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
Skippy? Or Jif?
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
Other brands do the same, but yes, unless I'm using it to bake my peanut butter had better have peanuts be the first ingredient, and have neither sugar nor partially hydrogenated oils anywhere in it.
Additional salt, in some cases, isn't awful. From a guy that dislikes salt...
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Creston wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:57:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:21:jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 12:45:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 11:10:
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
Skippy? Or Jif?
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
Just an added $12 a jar.
Haha. It's not that expensive. I can understand wanting to save money but often saving money means purchasing non-pure ingredients. For example, I often see jelly that is sold at a discount but when looking at the label, I notice that sugar is listed as the first ingredient. What's happening is that a person may think he/she is saving money, but is in fact paying more per-sugar as it is being used as a substitute for a lesser quantity of the main thing. Better off getting the smaller and 'seemingly more expensive' product that has less or no additives.
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BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 16:21:jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 12:45:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 11:10:
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
Skippy? Or Jif?
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
Just an added $12 a jar.
jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 12:45:BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 11:10:
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
Skippy? Or Jif?
Whole Foods 365 'Organic' brand. No added salt or sugar.
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 16:09:
Eventually, meat and dairy prices will be too expensive, and most people will be defacto vegans.
I don't see that happening any time soon and people already pay a premium for meat in many places.
PHJF wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 10:54:
1/2 cup of low fat cottage cheese has 14 gr of protein and about 80 calories.
1/2 cup of Greek yogurt has 12 gr of protein and about 70 calories.
1/2 cup tofu has 10 gr of protein and 90 calories.
Yeah but they also taste fucking awful. I pan seared and baked to finish a nice skirt steak last night, served with roasted garlic potatoes and carrots, ended with cinnamon chip scones I'd just made... now that's good eats. The scones in particular (the trick is shredded frozen butter).
Tofu is a bit of an acquired taste, but cottage cheese and yogurt taste awful? I brought them up because they're pretty popular in the west, and an easy, low-cal way to get protein if you're vegetarian, since InBlack was asking.
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BobBob wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 11:10:
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
Skippy? Or Jif?
RIP RedEye9. We miss you.
My favorite food is peanut butter. If aliens abducted me and said, "We only have the ability to replicate one food item for you.", I'd ask for peanut butter!
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1/2 cup of low fat cottage cheese has 14 gr of protein and about 80 calories.
1/2 cup of Greek yogurt has 12 gr of protein and about 70 calories.
1/2 cup tofu has 10 gr of protein and 90 calories.
Yeah but they also taste fucking awful. I pan seared and baked to finish a nice skirt steak last night, served with roasted garlic potatoes and carrots, ended with cinnamon chip scones I'd just made... now that's good eats. The scones in particular (the trick is shredded frozen butter).
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A big steak has a lot of protein too and I enjoy it. I'm not going to eat food I don't enjoy just to make other people feel good about themselves.
InBlack wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 02:38:jdreyer wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 20:02:BobBob wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 19:06:
Great discussion everyone! This forum is a nice relief from my normal, day to day, encounters with human stupidity. Based on what everyone is saying, it makes me wonder if I should eat meat, or at least poultry, as part of a more balanced approach, instead of going to an extreme.
As long as you're eating dairy regularly and have a well-balanced diet otherwise, you should be fine without resorting to meat. You'll get plenty or B-12. It's really the vegans that have to be careful.
What about protein?
- 1/2 cup of low fat cottage cheese has 14 gr of protein and about 80 calories.
- 1/2 cup of Greek yogurt has 12 gr of protein and about 70 calories.
- 1/2 cup tofu has 10 gr of protein and 90 calories.
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InBlack wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 03:30:
Im very suspicious of vegan diets for personal reasons, a good friend of mine went into an all vegan, raw food diet. He lost about 20 kg in 6 months and he wasn't heavy to begin with. He is always irritable, and looks like a fucking corpse now. He claims to be eating a very healthy diet, but to me he just looks like a fucking junkie...
B12 deficiency can lead to . . . personality changes.
The most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.
Im very suspicious of vegan diets for personal reasons, a good friend of mine went into an all vegan, raw food diet. He lost about 20 kg in 6 months and he wasn't heavy to begin with. He is always irritable, and looks like a fucking corpse now. He claims to be eating a very healthy diet, but to me he just looks like a fucking junkie...
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InBlack wrote on Sep 18, 2015, 02:38:jdreyer wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 20:02:BobBob wrote on Sep 17, 2015, 19:06:
Great discussion everyone! This forum is a nice relief from my normal, day to day, encounters with human stupidity. Based on what everyone is saying, it makes me wonder if I should eat meat, or at least poultry, as part of a more balanced approach, instead of going to an extreme.
As long as you're eating dairy regularly and have a well-balanced diet otherwise, you should be fine without resorting to meat. You'll get plenty or B-12. It's really the vegans that have to be careful.
What about protein?
Whole grain (or better yet multi-grain) breads and pastas, milk, yogurt, nuts and beans, sunflower seeds on your salad... I eat meat every day, but it is super easy to get a lot of protein even without it. With a hearty bread, you can get like 25-30g protein just from a peanut butter sandwich and glass of milk. Which is a light breakfast or a snack to me.
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