I still need to retry WoW again with its "disasters" make overs.

This was good news for me cuz my Blizz stock just soared to +10%

Frags4Fun wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 08:18:
If they would cut the monthly fee in half, I would keep my sub active even if I wasn't playing. That way I could jump on whenever I felt the urge.

Just buy the tokens in game. They're only 25k, and I basically don't have to try to make that much money in a month.

Luke wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 08:02:

yes "Registred" `.....not active accounts

You implied that WoW's active subscriber number was actually a registered account number. Here's the comparison...

100 million registered vs. FF14 4 million registered.
5.6 million active subs vs. FF14 no one knows, Squeenix doesn't release that info.

I really liked WOW for a while, but the last year has shown that it is in a rut. The same old game play, only cosmetic changes and nickle and dime funny hats and sanctioned cash shop gold sales. The straw that did it for me was when they announced the cancellation of "Titan" the supposed next generation Blizzard mmo and Wow's replacement. No statement to the effect they are going back to square one, or trying a new approach. No the best you can hope for is more reskins of the same basic engine and gameplay while the developer resources have been shifted to the much more easy to code card game and a MOBA.

5 million puts them in the same ball park as GW2, another tired and wasting away game.

Meanwhile we are seeing an explosion of polished slick repackaging of the Minecraft creative sandbox world building games. You can have card games and MOBAs, I am going with creative world building games for now.

Frags4Fun wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 08:18:
If they would cut the monthly fee in half, I would keep my sub active even if I wasn't playing. That way I could jump on whenever I felt the urge.

I'd go for that as well. Keep thinking I might check it out again, but other games get in the way.

If they would cut the monthly fee in half, I would keep my sub active even if I wasn't playing. That way I could jump on whenever I felt the urge.

|RaptoR| wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 05:06:

Luke wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 04:45:

NKD wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 00:06:

Rattlehead wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 18:51:
I don't know man, FFXIV last I heard 2 months ago had about 4 million active subscribers, and that number only went up since the expansion. Maybe people are leaving WoW for FFXIV?

It wasn't 4 million active subscribers, it was 4 million "registered accounts."

Like wow

In Jan 2014, World of Warcraft broke 100m registered accounts.

So no, not like WoW. Not in the slightest.

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yes "Registred" `.....not active accounts

Luke wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 04:45:

NKD wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 00:06:

Rattlehead wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 18:51:
I don't know man, FFXIV last I heard 2 months ago had about 4 million active subscribers, and that number only went up since the expansion. Maybe people are leaving WoW for FFXIV?

It wasn't 4 million active subscribers, it was 4 million "registered accounts."

Like wow

In Jan 2014, World of Warcraft broke 100m registered accounts.

So no, not like WoW. Not in the slightest.

edit: source

NKD wrote on Aug 5, 2015, 00:06:

Rattlehead wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 18:51:
I don't know man, FFXIV last I heard 2 months ago had about 4 million active subscribers, and that number only went up since the expansion. Maybe people are leaving WoW for FFXIV?

It wasn't 4 million active subscribers, it was 4 million "registered accounts."

Like wow

A lot of theories about the demise of WoW can be summarized in one word: Boredom.

People get bored and look for the next new thing. It's just the way we are wired.

Wetworks24 wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 23:39:
Most of the buzz I've heard is because there is too little content in Warlords of Draenor. There will be no more patches for WoD, instead they will drop the expansion next year.

Most people actually like Mists of Panderia better, it had a lot more content and a continent that was actually fun to explore.

Word is that WoD focused too much on the solo garrison system and ignored creating fun content for everything else. Also, there was no new race or class in WoD so people didn't have an incentive to level a new alt. In Mists of Panderia they had a new monk class and a new Pandaran race.

If the started making content again like TBC, people would start coming back. But blizz seems to think that ooh simple is the way to roll.

Rattlehead wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 18:51:
I don't know man, FFXIV last I heard 2 months ago had about 4 million active subscribers, and that number only went up since the expansion. Maybe people are leaving WoW for FFXIV?

It wasn't 4 million active subscribers, it was 4 million "registered accounts."

Most of the buzz I've heard is because there is too little content in Warlords of Draenor. There will be no more patches for WoD, instead they will drop the expansion next year.

Most people actually like Mists of Panderia better, it had a lot more content and a continent that was actually fun to explore.

Word is that WoD focused too much on the solo garrison system and ignored creating fun content for everything else. Also, there was no new race or class in WoD so people didn't have an incentive to level a new alt. In Mists of Panderia they had a new monk class and a new Pandaran race.

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HorrorScope wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 20:04:
My opinion differs. To me it was the same thing in terms of no fun was found in either after a while. Why each were un-fun, yes that is different, really that part goes without saying, the idea that after a while both go bad is the point.

LSD is documented on doing that for most users. MMO's the first was great, the second a little less so, after that and for years I was chasing after a feeling that isn't there anymore. Once the new basics were down, they all have these same mechanics that are un-fun to me that turn my brain off and I would start dozing off while playing. It's why I want personal servers where we can mod.

I can't say I ever did acid for "fun". It was always when I felt like consciousness expansion or getting really sideways. Can't say it ever got boring either, but that's always more about who you were with and what you were doing. Tripping balls at a Grateful Dead show was always good times. And unless you've had a seriously bad trip, which I only did once, there's nothing that really compares to that hellishness of a few hours of seriously bad hallucinations and insanity. That's why I thought it's a silly analogy. People getting bored and leaving an MMO is nothing like a total psychotic freakout on a hallucinogen.

LiTh wrote on Aug 4, 2015, 20:51:
All i ever wanted was UO2... nothing in the MMO space has really interested me like Ultima Online did

Yeah I'm still pissed that got canned. Dumbest move ever. Also Microsoft's Mythica was something I was stoked for before it too was canned. A new Asheron's Call and DDI would be pretty sweet too.

It was inevitable that it would begin to drop eventually. The real amazing thing here though is just how much money and subs they've been able to wring from the game, and for how long. And it's not like it's blatant money grabs either (despite the purchasable mounts etc) - they've genuinely invested a ton into the game and reaped the rewards because of it.

5+ million subs is still nothing to sneeze at, either.

If i had a hat, I'd take it off to Blizzard, but wish they'd hurry the hell up and create an amazing, new, Warcraft RTS on a new engine.

Interesting how Valve makes $750 million for all of 2014, yet Blizzard Actions makes 1 BILLION in ONE quarter.

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All i ever wanted was UO2... nothing in the MMO space has really interested me like Ultima Online did