Out of the Blue

Some very preliminary talks have taken place about doing some tweaking to the design here, something I like to consider every ten years or so, whether it seems needed or not. Things I would like to accomplish include turning the rarely used side menu to drop-down top menu, consolidating all the other side-content and ads into a single side column, and getting the site to work a little better on smartphones. While change can be jarring, I think all that can be accomplished without significantly harming the look and feel of the site, while still making it a bit less clunky. History suggests that further progress on such an undertaking will be slow (if not nonexistent), so there should be adequate time to offer feedback on the plan. Feel free to chime in.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 09:21
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 09:21
Jul 31, 2015, 09:21
 
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!





Just kidding. As long as the important stuff (news, comments) stays the same who cares about the design right?
I have a nifty blue line!
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Re: Golf club hunts mystery man who keeps shitting in the holes
Jul 31, 2015, 09:40
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Re: Golf club hunts mystery man who keeps shitting in the holes Jul 31, 2015, 09:40
Jul 31, 2015, 09:40
 
Holy shit?


Re: redesign - as long as text isn't on that blue background! (if it wasn't for retro colours I wouldn't be able to read anything here)
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 09:45
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 09:45
Jul 31, 2015, 09:45
 
Those sound like some good changes to the site. It doesn't matter what it looks like, I'll still be here 20-30 times per day.
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Jul 31, 2015, 10:05
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 10:05
Jul 31, 2015, 10:05
 
Is there a way to ignore users? Down-vote? Something? If not, it would be a huge improvement.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 10:24
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 10:24
Jul 31, 2015, 10:24
 
Silicon Avatar wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 10:05:
Is there a way to ignore users? Down-vote? Something? If not, it would be a huge improvement.

Ignore would be nice, but downvote? Lets not get all facebook about this.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 10:26
Slick
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 10:26
Jul 31, 2015, 10:26
 Slick
 
i'd like a way to give posts a "thumbs up". i think that thumbs downs are not a good idea, but on other boards it's nice to say "good point, or i agree with you" without having to specifically reply to that post.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 10:31
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 10:31
Jul 31, 2015, 10:31
 
Silicon Avatar wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 10:05:
Is there a way to ignore users? Down-vote? Something? If not, it would be a huge improvement.

Click on a user's name and you will find the function to ignore them.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 10:34
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Jul 31, 2015, 10:34
 
Sounds good, I cant wait to see the ideas in action.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 10:41
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 10:41
Jul 31, 2015, 10:41
 
I never use that side menu stuff. Never have. Never will. Except for user settings.


And that image of the Asus civ is awesome!


And wtf? This guy has been shitting in those holes...for a decade??? Jesus, fire your head of security already and get someone competent. Hell, he's probably the one doing it. That sort of incompetence boggles the mind.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 11:16
Kxmode
 
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Jul 31, 2015, 11:16
 Kxmode
 

Picked up Cities: Skylines last night. Has anyone played it? What do you think?
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 11:27
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 11:27
Jul 31, 2015, 11:27
 
Change nothing. It's great the way it is! Thumbsup

Drop down anything makes it difficult for mobile and tablet browsing.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 11:46
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Jul 31, 2015, 11:46
 
BobBob wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 11:27:
Change nothing. It's great the way it is! Thumbsup

Drop down anything makes it difficult for mobile and tablet browsing.

How much worse can it be than the existing menu on mobiles with itty-bitty text links?
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Jul 31, 2015, 11:53
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Jul 31, 2015, 11:53
 
Blue wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 11:46:
BobBob wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 11:27:
Change nothing. It's great the way it is! Thumbsup

Drop down anything makes it difficult for mobile and tablet browsing.

How much worse can it be than the existing menu on mobiles with itty-bitty text links?

Currently, I simply zoom in and out with two fingers.

It's diificult to do that with drop down menus.

You have one of the most easiest to navigate websites that I regularly visit. It's incredibly fast even when my connection drops to 1x. Needless to say, the articles are always interesting, discussions stimulating, and the community is awesome. Thumbsup
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Jul 31, 2015, 12:07
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 31, 2015, 12:07
Jul 31, 2015, 12:07
 
I'm not a fan of dropdown navigation menus, unless you actually mean a floating menu, such that it's always on the left, no matter how far you scroll. Don't quite see how that would work for mobile displays though, so it's probably not that.

My own preferences would unfortunately mean extra work for your coders...I really dislike trying to make a single design that works well for both mobile and PC UIs. The hybrid approach generally leads to a mediocre experience on all platforms. Best to have separate pages, one optimized for each.
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Jul 31, 2015, 12:31
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Jul 31, 2015, 12:31
 

Slick wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 10:26:
i'd like a way to give posts a "thumbs up". i think that thumbs downs are not a good idea....

Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want thumbs down? Are we playing T-Ball here , or is this Facebook where you can 'only like something?

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Jul 31, 2015, 12:35
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Jul 31, 2015, 12:35
 

Kxmode wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 11:16:
Picked up Cities: Skylines last night. Has anyone played it? What do you think?

Fantastic and well developed game, and there are a lot of really good mods for it too, and they are easy to install/uninstall.

My first SIM game and I have enjoyed it a lot. If you like SIM games, and EA left a lot to be desired for you with each progressing iteration of theirs, then you should love this game.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 31, 2015, 12:53
Rigs
 
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Jul 31, 2015, 12:53
 Rigs
 
Ok, since obviously we're going to have 'purists' here that don't want anything to change and others that wouldn't mind seeing some things change, I've actually put some thought to this before. (Yes, I was bored) My whole 'gradients' argument was to bring some attention to the fact the site hadn't changed in a while and could use a good 'touch up'. BTW, my gradients post is still up if you have no idea what I'm talking about. I would LOVE to see you guys implement it!

But, anyway, during my thinking exercise about what could be good changes, another friend who operates another site (Matt from TWC Classics) was having a similar dilemma. He's kind of a neat freak with major OCD issues when it comes to changes on the site. First he'll redo it, then put it back, then totally revamp the site...then put it back...it's kind of crazy. He has a huge database of music laid out and was trying to figure a way to best present it to the user, search-wise. After thinking about it, I figured that instead of changing the site for the majority, and leaving out those that want the site a certain way, put everything in the user options and let THEM decide what they want and don't want to see.

This is my main point. There are some here that don't want a change, they use the menus just fine and the site loads fast for them. Fine. If the user wants to have pull-down menus, put an option for it in the settings. If they want the 'old-style' back, put it in the settings as an option. Simple. This way everyone can have the site the way they want. Basically, it's an expansion of your 'new blue' settings on the side now, along with the extended user settings. Throw everything in there, explain what it does and maybe give them the option of previewing it first and everyone is happy!

Oh, and I second the idea for 'thumbs up' or stars or whatever for posts. Maybe not a thumbs down, but we definitely need something like that for good posts...

Also! The email function is definitely still broken. I've tried three times. That needs fixing.


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Jul 31, 2015, 12:55
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Jul 31, 2015, 12:55
 
MajorD wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 12:31:
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want thumbs down? Are we playing T-Ball here , or is this Facebook where you can 'only like something?

Probably worried his posts will disappear below the low score comment threshold.

There are ways to implement it without penalizing people for having an unpopular opinion, Arstechnica does that well I've noticed. You can have a lot of downvotes but still pop up near the top.
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Jul 31, 2015, 13:05
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Jul 31, 2015, 13:05
 
Rigs wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 12:53:
Oh, and I second the idea for 'thumbs up' or stars or whatever for posts. Maybe not a thumbs down, but we definitely need something like that for good posts...
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Here we go again. Help me understand why a thumbs 'down' is such a bad thing.....
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Jul 31, 2015, 13:10
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Jul 31, 2015, 13:10
 
I've never understood rating posts. It's zero indication of quality and only one that someone else agrees or disagrees with. So you agree with it or not, so what? A poll function would be far more useful.

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