Out of the Blue

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1badmf wrote on Jul 31, 2015, 23:25:
really? people are that pissed that it's been delayed? as far as i'm concerned it's right on track, taking into account the added features. might not see 1.0 till next year, but what AAA title hasn't been delayed. only diff is SC did it publicly.

I don't disagree with your points. I just think that if a project like this originally says it's going to do "X" thing in "Y" amount of time and it changes both the "X" and the "Y" than the folks supporting the original venture should be able to get their money back. I am keeping my money in the pot because A) It's only 35 bucks and B) Because I am fine with the explained changes and timeline. The fact that I am fine with it doesn't mean everybody has to be though.

I would point out that I say "should be able to get their money back". I mean that in a very idealist sort of way. I am not saying that I believe that should be a law or even a rule. I am just saying I think that it's the right thing to do in some cases, specifically those with such dramatic changes from the original sales pitch. Kickstarters and the various similar ways of crowdsourcing are a risk and nobody should throw their money in expecting to be able to get it back. People compare it to investing but I compare it to gambling. Don't put any money in the game that you can't afford to lose. That being said, this is a very successful campaign that, despite the negative picture one might draw from the comments here on Blues, has a huge and devoted fan base that is largely in support of the game design expansion. With all the millions that they have generated I think giving refunds to those that kicked money in based on the plan of the original Kickstarter is the right thing to do. I meant it when I said I didn't think he would get his refund though...I am used to companies doing the "legal" thing or the "business" thing, not the right thing.

edit: When I refer to things as a clusterfuck here what I meant is that I agree with him on his main points of frustration. You are right, delays happen and the main difference between this project and a normal "AAA publisher" project is that the public gets to see it all unfold publicly. That doesn't really change the fact that he donated based on one set of promises and now there is a totally different set of promises that are said to be fulfilled on a totally different time schedule. One could say "well, that's game development...suck it up buttercup" and not be wrong. I am impressed that wasn't what he was told. I am not sure I can think of any other development studio or publisher that would have given his money back, BBB report or no.

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