CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 30, 2015, 09:52:
jimnms wrote on Jul 30, 2015, 08:54:
That sucks if I have to install twice to get a clean install. Even worse, when I get around to building a new system, I'll have to install Win7, upgrade to Win10 then re-install Win10. SIW discontinued the free version and the last free version doesn't work on Win8/10, so unless there is another way to get the license key, I have to keep backups of install media for each system.
1) Unless you have an ancient system, the upgrade only takes a few minutes. The same goes for the (unnecessary) "clean" install. This is not Windows 98. Do some research. It takes only a few minutes to install Win 10 from scratch.
2) It has been known for MONTHS now and posted all over relevant threads/sites that you absolutely do NOT have to go through the ordeal of a Win 7/Win 8 reinstall. You just install Win 10 with a generic key and if the activation gives you crap about a changed hardware ID you call MS and have them reset your stuff (or follow their instructions to actually go legit and BUY a new Win 10 license... whatever they will tell you... at the very latest after July 29, 2016 they will probably tell you to fuck off and buy Win 10).
You need to let go off the thought of having a unique key with Win 10. You don't. You just need any old generic key for the install. The only thing that counts is the activation which creates a unique hardware ID on Microsoft's activation backend and binds it to your Win 10 install.
Also, once you convert your Win 7/8.x license to a Win 10 license, you might be able to reinstall Win 7/8.x with your original key BUT you won't be able to activate it so you will have to get in touch with MS in any case. Might as well skip the reinstall and install 10 with a generic key, then call them and explain why you require a reset.
I did some research and what you're saying is not what I'm reading on MS's site. I don't care what people say about how long the upgrade takes and the full install, when you have to do it on several devices it adds up. I'm already expecting calls from friends, family and their friends and family when their systems get bricked during the upgrade because of the tons of shitware they have on it breaks the upgrade.
I also never said anything about having to re-install Win7 to install Win10. I'm talking about the new system I've been putting off building, which I already have an unused Win7 license for that I bought years ago when they offered it at a discount. If it's a new system, I can't just install Win10 and expect to get a free upgrade. I'm sure MS will laugh at me if I do that and call them trying to get it activated.
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