Out of the Blue

Well today is the launch day for a new version of Windows, a free upgrade for most, no less. I've seen many comments already from those holding off on this for now, and I'm firmly in that camp myself. It's kind of funny, as I feel there's no reason to upgrade, but I would probably be upset if there actually was a reason, because it would feel like I was being coerced. I guess coercion will eventually play into this, as I will probably tumble before the free upgrade expires, though I could go for it earlier if the reviews seem to warrant it, and early notices seem positive.

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Agent.X7 wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 20:06:
The Half Elf wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 14:26:
You know that Aussies haven't had any mass shootings since 1996 due to massive gun regulations.

I'm sure there are other examples of other countries doing things that actually work to control the issues you listed.

And that's totally not true. Australia has had mass shootings since, and they have a huge problem with armed gangs in the cities. In a country with no legal guns, there sure are a buttload of guns. In fact, just like Mexico, they like to blame the US for that.

How many mass shootings? I think the number is two, one of them a case of a father shooting his wife and kids in 2014, and the other in 2002. Can you cite others?
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Jul 30, 2015, 11:03
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InBlack wrote on Jul 30, 2015, 03:18:
As for gun control vs free for all. How bout we use some common sense here. A 6 year old kid can pick up a gun and shoot themselves in the head, or shoot their dog, or their parent accidentally. Now remove the gun from the equation.

Q. E. FUCKING D.

Ok try to convince me how gun control would totally suck! TRY!

Better start banning kitchen knives, pencils, anti-freeze, scissors, coat hangers, screwdrivers, hammers, etc. Psychos will find a way to hurt others. Again, the gun control issue is merely a red herring to the issue of mental health. Some people are born crazy and should be kept either heavily medicated, constantly monitored, or isolated from society.
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Jul 30, 2015, 10:32
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Won't anyone think of the children?
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Jul 30, 2015, 03:18
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Jul 30, 2015, 03:18
 
As for gun control vs free for all. How bout we use some common sense here. A 6 year old kid can pick up a gun and shoot themselves in the head, or shoot their dog, or their parent accidentally. Now remove the gun from the equation.

Q. E. FUCKING D.

Ok try to convince me how gun control would totally suck! TRY!
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Jul 30, 2015, 03:01
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I haven't read the whole thread but I'm with Blue on this one. Now that I've kind of looked at the last few posts I think I'm gonna have to delve into the thread
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Jul 30, 2015, 00:11
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Jul 30, 2015, 00:11
 
considering the population of the entire UK would fit in the northeastern states with room to spare

Do you know what a rate is?

no one is proposing stronger laws and penalties for drivers and freaking out on TV about it
It is harder to get and keep a drivers license than it is to purchase a gun, and there are all sorts of regulations and protections for the public in place.

Hint, it's not a gun.

It... is a gun.

There is no "emotion" about it unless you love guns and hate facts.
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Jul 29, 2015, 22:01
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Jul 29, 2015, 22:01
 
The only way to regain your privacy is to not use any connected device. I still object to the idea of MS making money off of selling my search data or collecting data on the programs I use.

[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/[/url]

may not eliminate all of their data snooping but it should go pretty far in limiting it.
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Jul 29, 2015, 21:39
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Cutter wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 16:54:
Um. none. I don't have GPS enabled. I don't text. And I don't use apps that allow them to root around my phone and use my data and other personal information. You guys obviously don't care about your privacy but some of us do.

Are you actually this naive? You have an Android phone, Google already knows everything about you, I don't care if you're running Cyanogenmod or not. GPS being enabled doesn't matter, they can get your location from the cell towers, geoIP and probably several other methods I can't think of. You're trusting apps to accurately reflect their permissions? Haha that's adorable.

You claim to care about your privacy but you're a fucking infant when it comes to any real knowledge about it. Go read up on this shit before you embarrass yourself further. Caring about privacy is great and all but knowing when to pick your battles is another useful skill you should work on.
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Jul 29, 2015, 21:08
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nin wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 13:11:
Quboid wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 12:36:
TangledThorns wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 11:43:
The outrage over a guy killing a lion versus Planned Parenthood killing and selling baby parts is truly outrageous.

But how does it compare to climate change, GamerGate, gay rights, attempting to derail a discussion, gun control, or public health care? They're as bad as the Nazis, whoever it is we're disagreeing with.


Well done! I give that 5 out of 5 Hitler mustaches.


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In trying to highlight how awkward and inflammatory the original comparison was, I've actually gone and started a discussion. That was naive of me!
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Jul 29, 2015, 21:01
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eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 15:27:
Creston wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 10:54:
eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 10:48:
Can someone actually confirm whether an upgrade from Windows 7 retains that license or not? And what happens when you change HDD's and thus have to do a clean windows 10 install???? Does that mean the license evaporates if you switch hardware?

It's supposed to deactivate the windows 7 license and turn it into a windows 10 license when you upgrade. Then, once you've upgraded your PC, it essentially becomes a windows 10 stand-alone license.

Thanks Guess I will sit on my license for the next 5 years.. no haste to upgrade..

I don't think it's deactivated, the terminology is that the windows 10 "absorbs" your current license in that whatever version of windows you're using (retail or OEM) is reflected upon when you update to 10. If you have OEM then your version of windows 10 will be OEM.

If you want to put 7 or 8 back on then it should continue to work.

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Jul 29, 2015, 20:51
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SlimRam wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 18:11:
Um...just a real quick question of concern before I upgrade/downgrade to Windows 10. Sooooooo like, hypothetically speaking OFCOURSE, uhh...when I do install the new Windows and say I can't find some valuable data that is very dear to me, like say...oh I dunno...all my porn do I call Microsoft customer support about this?

Maybe Microsoft has decided they don't like your porn and helpfully removed it from your system.
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Jul 29, 2015, 20:49
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Cutter wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 14:04:
Ahh, now we see why MS is giving away free copies of Windows 10, it's because you have zero privacy.

Windows 10 is adware as well as spyware. Windows 7 forever!
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Jul 29, 2015, 20:15
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descender wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 14:40:
Sorry Newmaxx, but that "statistic" you cited is just another NRA smokescreen. Violent crime is defined completely differently between the US and UK and has no relevance whatsoever to gun crime statistics.

Violent Crime definition UK:
“Violent crime contains a wide range of offences, from minor assaults such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious incidents of wounding and murder. Around a half of violent incidents identified by both BCS and police statistics involve no injury to the victim.” (THOSB – CEW, page 17, paragraph 1.)

Violent Crime Definition US:
“In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.” (FBI – CUS – Violent Crime)

The rate of similar "violent crimes" (not the reported lie statistic) in the Us is 5 times higher than the UK.

Shocking, considering the population of the entire UK would fit in the northeastern states with room to spare.

Look, gun control is all about emotion no matter which way you slice it. More people die in car accidents every year, and yet no one is proposing stronger laws and penalties for drivers and freaking out on TV about it, demonstrating against cars and trying to ban them. It's a hot button political issue that people use to stir emotions and manipulate others.

Do you know what the #1 murder weapon in the US is? Hint, it's not a gun.
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The Half Elf wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 14:26:
You know that Aussies haven't had any mass shootings since 1996 due to massive gun regulations.

I'm sure there are other examples of other countries doing things that actually work to control the issues you listed.

And that's totally not true. Australia has had mass shootings since, and they have a huge problem with armed gangs in the cities. In a country with no legal guns, there sure are a buttload of guns. In fact, just like Mexico, they like to blame the US for that.
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Um...just a real quick question of concern before I upgrade/downgrade to Windows 10. Sooooooo like, hypothetically speaking OFCOURSE, uhh...when I do install the new Windows and say I can't find some valuable data that is very dear to me, like say...oh I dunno...all my porn do I call Microsoft customer support about this?
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Jul 29, 2015, 17:28
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Cutter wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 16:54:
Um. none. I don't have GPS enabled. I don't text. And I don't use apps that allow them to root around my phone and use my data and other personal information. You guys obviously don't care about your privacy but some of us do.

You'll love this then!
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BobBob wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 16:42:
I'm sad and angry beyond words.

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Dentist. Furious2

Here's what the animal killer looks and sounds like. He talks calmly like a psychopath.
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Cutter wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 16:52:
NewMaxx wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 14:22:
Agent.X7 wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 13:49:
We "feel" banning guns will help society, yet lack any solid evidence to back that up. (Yes, I am well aware of all the studies. Studies funded by special interest groups that for sure have no bias.)

There's a lot of interesting facts around that, actually. For example, the UK's stronger gun laws mean that the number of violent crimes involving firearms (1 in 20) is far less than the US. However, the UK has over twice the number of violent crimes as in the US. It's pretty clear that any "one size fits all" approach to gun control is naive.

Really? Just a quick search and it shows me something vastly different.

UK vs. US Crime Stats

Murders with Firearms: UK - 14 US - 9,369
Violent Crime Murders: UK - 722 US - 12,996
Violent Crime Murders per capita: UK - 11.68 US - 42.01
Murders with Firearms per capita: UK - 0.236 US - 32.57

Total Crimes per capita: UK - 109.96 US - 41.29
*Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Figures expressed per thousand population for the same year.

So in some cases you have more petty crime in Britain, but much more serious crime and murder in the US. Regardless if you have more people engaging in fisticuffs at least they walk away from that. At least people can defend themselves from clubs and knives or run away. You can't outrun a bullet or defend against it unless you're in SWAT gear with a shield, which would be kind of a pain in the ass to be walking around in all day every day. So the gun nuts can keep trying to rationalize it however they like, but the facts prove them wrong.
Gun control works.

The gun control issue is somewhat of a red herring to the real problem.
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MajorD wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 17:09:
Cutter wrote on Jul 29, 2015, 16:54:
Um. none. I don't have GPS enabled. I don't text. And I don't use apps that allow them to root around my phone and use my data and other personal information. You guys obviously don't care about your privacy but some of us do.

Do you wear a foil hat too?

not just a hat, but underwear too!

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