Op Ed

Derek Smart - Interstellar Justice.
"Give backers the opportunity to hire an independent forensics accountant, and an executive producer, to audit the company records, and give an accurate picture of the financial health of the company, and it’s ability to complete, and deliver this project in a timely fashion. I hereby offer to foot the entire costs of this effort. And I will put up to $1m of my own money, in an escrow account of an attorney’s choosing, to be used as-needed for this exercise. I will pay this price to prove that I had every right to seek these answers. So this money can either go toward a good cause (righting this ship), or to attorneys who are most likely to burn it all down anyway."

View : : :
64 Replies. 4 pages. Viewing page 2.
Newer [  1  2  3  4  ] Older
44.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 11:21
44.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 11:21
Jul 18, 2015, 11:21
 
Bub wrote on Jul 18, 2015, 08:01:
Like many smarter than average people, Mr. Smarts commentary just goes "whoosh" past the smaller minds of your average internet commenter.

Just like the television media, your average person tends to get mesmerized by the spectacle and personality, while loosing sight of the facts that are brought to light.

In my opinion it is time to reign in this wackyness that is crowd funding with a bit of regulation. If not, every huckster out there from tv preachers to diet gurus will be milking this crowd funding bonanza for all it is worth very soon. It is time to require crowdfunding to follow the same kind of rules offering stock for sale comes with.

DS alias?

(looks at post "history")

Yup, or someone who "works" for him.
43.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 10:29
43.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 10:29
Jul 18, 2015, 10:29
 
It sounds like CIG is suppose to release something in 2 weeks or so they say. It'll be interesting to see what they put out. For some reason I can't stop thinking they are desperate to quiet the distension among the backers and are working in crunch time conditions to get it out as fast as possible.

I more interested about this bit in the article:
These reports range from rapidly dwindling funds left to see the project to completion; to a new report that SQ42 is almost a year away if they don’t reduce the scope, and that it is now going to be an episodic game, in which the first episode (about 3hrs long without cut-scenes) is free, while future episodes are going to be paid DLC.
They absolutely did not mention or even imply the single player portion of the game was episodic requiring payment to get anything past the first episode. If they did even imply that during the KS time I would never have backed it. Episodic means it'll never be finished. I don't think I have ever seen a game that was labeled "episodic" finished.
Avatar 56985
42.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 09:59
42.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 09:59
Jul 18, 2015, 09:59
 
If you payed attention to the 38 studios debacle, Chris Robert's studio is fast approaching a similar occurrence. Ramped up development staff, little accounting for where all the money is going(just look at the house rent issue which has to be just a sample of fiscal issues).

If you invested in this game and don't feel like an idiot now, you will soon!
41.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 08:49
41.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 08:49
Jul 18, 2015, 08:49
 
Bub wrote on Jul 18, 2015, 08:01:
Like many smarter than average people, Mr. Smarts commentary just goes "whoosh" past the smaller minds of your average internet commenter.

Just like the television media, your average person tends to get mesmerized by the spectacle and personality, while loosing sight of the facts that are brought to light.

In my opinion it is time to reign in this wackyness that is crowd funding with a bit of regulation. If not, every huckster out there from tv preachers to diet gurus will be milking this crowd funding bonanza for all it is worth very soon. It is time to require crowdfunding to follow the same kind of rules offering stock for sale comes with.

No....just stop giving any Money at all , besides the Price for the game when it is released its to easy to put a crowd Funding up and then say upps we can't deliver.
40.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 08:01
Bub
40.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 08:01
Jul 18, 2015, 08:01
Bub
 
Like many smarter than average people, Mr. Smarts commentary just goes "whoosh" past the smaller minds of your average internet commenter.

Just like the television media, your average person tends to get mesmerized by the spectacle and personality, while loosing sight of the facts that are brought to light.

In my opinion it is time to reign in this wackyness that is crowd funding with a bit of regulation. If not, every huckster out there from tv preachers to diet gurus will be milking this crowd funding bonanza for all it is worth very soon. It is time to require crowdfunding to follow the same kind of rules offering stock for sale comes with.
==================================================
Bubb Stubbley
... I miss BBS..
"There is a sucker born every minute." - PT Barnum
==================================================
Avatar 58208
39.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 07:59
39.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 07:59
Jul 18, 2015, 07:59
 
shihonage wrote on Jul 18, 2015, 07:37:
harlock wrote on Jul 18, 2015, 07:24:
not surprising that some people want to lick trump's asshole

its the same people who are so retarded they would love to drown themselves in his diseased sperm, and dream of choking on a gold encrusted cock

Aww, the angst, the hormones. Keep being adorable, you

you should tell us more about how much you love Trump
38.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 07:37
38.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 07:37
Jul 18, 2015, 07:37
 
harlock wrote on Jul 18, 2015, 07:24:
not surprising that some people want to lick trump's asshole

its the same people who are so retarded they would love to drown themselves in his diseased sperm, and dream of choking on a gold encrusted cock

Aww, the angst, the hormones. Keep being adorable, you
37.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 07:24
37.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 07:24
Jul 18, 2015, 07:24
 
shihonage wrote on Jul 18, 2015, 06:02:
nin wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 21:14:
zombiefan wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 20:30:
The Donald Trump (outrageous ego) of video games takes on the Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker of video games (promising Nirvana while fleecing the imbecilic sheep). Now we just need Geraldo to cover the fracas. Or Jack Thompson.

Trump is a very apt comparison. I have no idea why he gets the air time he does.

Authenticity tends to get through to people, especially in our age of double-speaking politicians with triple-vetted teleprompter speeches.

not surprising that some people want to lick trump's asshole

its the same people who are so retarded they would love to drown themselves in his diseased sperm, and dream of choking on a gold encrusted cock
36.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 06:02
36.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 06:02
Jul 18, 2015, 06:02
 
If you filter out all the sentences that start with "ME", "MY", etc, Derek Smart has homed in on an obvious truth, and he's milking it with glee.

Star Citizen WILL blow up, it is inevitable. It will be as if thousands of nerds cried out in terror and were suddenly... well... no, they'll be crying for a long, long time.

Chris Roberts will be a pariah of unprecedented proportions. He's gonna make John Romero his bitch.

nin wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 21:14:
zombiefan wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 20:30:
The Donald Trump (outrageous ego) of video games takes on the Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker of video games (promising Nirvana while fleecing the imbecilic sheep). Now we just need Geraldo to cover the fracas. Or Jack Thompson.

Trump is a very apt comparison. I have no idea why he gets the air time he does.

Authenticity tends to get through to people, especially in our age of double-speaking politicians with triple-vetted teleprompter speeches.

This comment was edited on Jul 18, 2015, 06:08.
35.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 04:24
35.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 04:24
Jul 18, 2015, 04:24
 
Flatline has it.
34.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 03:25
34.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 03:25
Jul 18, 2015, 03:25
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 19:58:
Whoops, he went full retard.

Well thank god we have wiseguys like you then.........
33.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 02:18
33.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 02:18
Jul 18, 2015, 02:18
 
What the corporate expenses (paying approx $14K per month rent with backer money as a corporate housing in Pacific Palisades, is usually a big Red flag) for this company, built on crowd-funding, is?

What the what? Is Derek suggesting that CIG are paying $14,000 rent for a house in Pacific Palisades for Chris and Sandi? If so, how in anyway is that right?

(I read how fanbois where explaning why there maybe a good reason to use a private plane after Derek drop a hint that that maybe happerning - was total cult type stuff)
32.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 00:53
32.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 00:53
Jul 18, 2015, 00:53
 
Wow, there are people that spent $16,000+ on Star Citizen? I had forgotten that somehow. That's utterly terrible.

Hopefully enough of a ruckus is caused by this whole thing that they can get refunds.
Avatar 54863
31.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 18, 2015, 00:49
31.
Re: Op Ed Jul 18, 2015, 00:49
Jul 18, 2015, 00:49
 
I've said this before and I'll say this again.

Derek Smart is a AWESOME person to talk to and listen to about the game industry, as long as he is NOT talking about his own games.
Avatar 12670
30.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 17, 2015, 23:26
30.
Re: Op Ed Jul 17, 2015, 23:26
Jul 17, 2015, 23:26
 
Let's do a Kickstarter!

$15,000 goal - D. Smart asks RSI politely about the money
$30,000 goal - D. Smart posts another dozen blogs asking hard questions about the money
$100,000 goal - D. Smart hosts a weekly podcast interviewing industry insiders about the money
$500,000 goal - Full blown Star Citizen awareness campaign. Facebook challenges?
$1,000,000 goal - Lawyers and accountants galore
$5,000,000 goal - Class action lawsuits!
$10,000,000 STRETCH GOAL - Congressional inquiry
$200,000,000 STRETCH GOAL - Just make another space game I guess
Avatar 6134
29.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 17, 2015, 23:24
29.
Re: Op Ed Jul 17, 2015, 23:24
Jul 17, 2015, 23:24
 
...a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
28.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 17, 2015, 22:59
28.
Re: Op Ed Jul 17, 2015, 22:59
Jul 17, 2015, 22:59
 
CDWarden wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 21:03:
I'm not a backer of SC, nor a supporter so I don't think I qualify as a SC "white knight". Even still, this tirade of Smart's is just baffling. He's upset because it is "vaporware"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't SC only been in active development for about 2 years, maybe 3? and doesn't your average AAA level title take ... around 4-5? am I wrong?

If Smart thinks that a game of this magnitude can be done in 2 years, and any longer is "vaporware" maybe that explains why all of his projects have been colossal and legendary turds.

Smart has a few different irons in the fire.

1. A lot of people backed a KS which was pitched to us as a spiritual successor to Wing Commander, with an online persistent component and a bunch of other stuff in addition to SQ42. This has kind of gone down the toilet. Very quickly SQ42 took a back seat to SC post-kickstarter. Now we're promised some weird hybrid space sim/BF4/Counterstrike thing.

2. Feature creep/bloat was insane. Even SC is not even the creature it once was. Hence the joking around here about the Space Burrito Shack Franchise Simulator, since the game has assured itself to be basically every genre *except* the match 3 jewels puzzle game, and I'm sure they'll shorehorn that in somewhere. Even on 85 million it seems like a long shot that the game will ever be finished to the specs and fidelity that SC is still boasting it'll have.

3. In voicing his complaints (and pimping his own work by measuring stick/advertisement) on his own personal blog and on Facebook, somehow he's "violated the TOS" of RSI even though as far as anyone can tell he really hasn't. And that means they banhammered him and gave him a refund. They have also in multiple publications very vocally announced that DS violated the TOS multiple times by basically being toxic on their forums and/or chats, which when pressed they admitted wasn't the case. I suspect he got the refund because banhammering him and accusing him of violating the TOS without giving him a refund would actually be a legally stupid move by RSI.

So this whole post is basically DS going HULK RAGE on RSI because they banned him because he spoke his mind on 3rd party websites (specifically his own), and used said trashing to pimp his game.

Now soak those three very reasonable points in a metric shit-ton of ego, glaze with hyperbole, and garnish with some theatricality, and you have the DS posts.

At the core of them are three basically relevant points. And point 3, that you can get banhammered for bitching about SC on your own site or on a 3rd party site, is kind of unsettling to me.
27.
 
No subject
Jul 17, 2015, 22:50
27.
No subject Jul 17, 2015, 22:50
Jul 17, 2015, 22:50
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Jul 17, 2015, 19:58:
Whoops, he went full retard.
Maybe we need a new meme? We've got full retard, we've got full McIntosh, maybe we need "going full Smart."
--
"For every human problem,
there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong."
--H.L. Mencken
26.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 17, 2015, 22:30
26.
Re: Op Ed Jul 17, 2015, 22:30
Jul 17, 2015, 22:30
 
What a bunch unmitigated malarkey. Derek Smart, acting stupid once again, and trying to inject himself into a situation that doesn't involve him at all...;) Figures. I guess this is what being a failure as a developer looks like--it isn't pretty.
It is well known that I cannot err--and so, if you should happen across an error in anything I have written you can be absolutely sure that *I* did not write it!...;)
Avatar 16008
25.
 
Re: Op Ed
Jul 17, 2015, 22:03
25.
Re: Op Ed Jul 17, 2015, 22:03
Jul 17, 2015, 22:03
 
One of the (very) few things I did KIND OF respect Smart for was his opinion on the gaming industry.

the article was of course TL;DR but given that Ive read some rational criticisms of RSI from other disillusioned backers Im wondering if ol Commander Knappy might have some salient points going......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Both the “left” and the “right” pretend they have the answer, but they are mere flippers on the same thalidomide baby, and the truth is that neither side has a clue."

- Jim Goad
Avatar 10137
64 Replies. 4 pages. Viewing page 2.
Newer [  1  2  3  4  ] Older