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Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced

Mojang announces a "whole new version of Minecraft they are calling Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta (though they'll probably drop the beta part at some point), an update for the sandbox mining and construction game. They currently plan on releasing this on July 29th, and they reassure the 20-some million owners of the Java-based PC edition that they are entitled to a free copy of the new version, while everyone else can purchase it for USD $10.00 while it is in beta. Here's word:
We have exciting news to share! A whole new version of Minecraft is on its way. This time, it’s for Windows 10 – Microsoft’s new swanky operating system that’s due for release on July 29th.

We’re calling it Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta.

Just like the first release of Minecraft all those years ago, this version will develop and evolve over time with the help of your feedback. That’s why it has “Beta” in the title – because it’s not quite finished, and will become even more fun over time. Just like the other versions of Minecraft, all future updates will be free. We spoil you. We really do.

If you’re one of the 20 million(!) players who have the PC edition of Minecraft (referred to by techy people as the Java version) you’ll be able to download Windows 10 Edition Beta from the Windows 10 store for free. Other players can get it for the paltry price of $10 during the beta period (the length of which is still being decided).

Minecraft is available on Windows, Mac, Windows Phone, iOS, Android, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4 and PS Vita, and now, Windows 10. Not every version of Minecraft is exactly the same, but they all feature two distinct game modes – Creative and Survival – that cater to different types of players. All versions of Minecraft support multiplayer.

You’ll recognise some Pocket Edition features in Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta, along with potpourri of cool extras. Here are some highlights:

  • Craft, create, and explore online with up to seven friends playing Windows 10 Edition Beta, through local multiplayer or with your Xbox Live friends online.
  • Play online and local multiplayer with other Pocket Edition players thanks to a free update, due to arrive soon after launch.
  • Multiple control schemes! Switch between controller, touch, and keyboard controls with little to no effort!
  • Record and share gameplay highlights with built-in GameDVR.
  • Help shape the future of Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta with our built player feedback mechanisms!
  • Chickens, zombies, pigs, boats, armed skeletons, potatoes, zombies, baby squids, enchantment tables, villagers, naked sheep, iron golems, potions, ghasts, pickaxes, carrots, and all the weird and wonderful goodness you’ve come to expect from Minecraft.

We hope you’re as excited as us for Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta. It’s gonna be cool!

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49. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 6, 2015, 07:28 Megalodon
 
A PDF of a powerpoint presentation is the source that is supposed to refute me that's funny. That tells me you don't even understand the differences you're referring to since you couldn't even summarize them into a sentence and are just parroting marketing blurbs.

Windows 10 makes meaningful strides in user interface, at least of build 10162 that I'm using right now. I don't really give a shit about Minecraft on it but at least for the end user they will see a meaningful difference that isn't blurbs and a 2 second boot improvement.

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48. No subject Jul 6, 2015, 03:35 Mashiki Amiketo
 
Krowen wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 15:25:
Faster boot time is about the only one you can actually quantify without a "trust me" from Microsoft so his response is about as meaningful as yours.

Really? I guess these papers don't count.
 



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47. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 6, 2015, 02:24 InBlack
 
ViRGE wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 17:01:
InBlack wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 11:14:
This. Also, why would anyone consider DX12 exclusivity to be anything but a bait job to lure 'gamers' into upgrading and how is that exactly a good thing?
DX12 goes hand-in-hand with WDDM 2.0. And WDDM 2.0 is the biggest overhaul of the underlying Windows graphics layer since WDDM 1.0 and Vista in 2006. Everything from memory management to task pre-emption is being touched and improved. These aren't changes that can be backported to older versions of Windows.

Rofl Vista and DX10....
 
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46. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 17:01 ViRGE
 
InBlack wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 11:14:
This. Also, why would anyone consider DX12 exclusivity to be anything but a bait job to lure 'gamers' into upgrading and how is that exactly a good thing?
DX12 goes hand-in-hand with WDDM 2.0. And WDDM 2.0 is the biggest overhaul of the underlying Windows graphics layer since WDDM 1.0 and Vista in 2006. Everything from memory management to task pre-emption is being touched and improved. These aren't changes that can be backported to older versions of Windows.
 
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45. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 15:25 Megalodon
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 04:49:
descender wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 00:10:
There is really nothing about 8/8.1 (UI replacement or not) that is an improvement over 7. Especially the half-in half-out metro UI shit like your network connections and such.

As someone who works with both operating systems on a daily basis... you all really have no idea what you are talking about. Anecdotal nonsense rules the day around here.

So no lower overhead? Faster boot times, better kernel optimization? Well guys pack it in, all that anecdotal evidence in the quote just packs it in.

Faster boot time is about the only one you can actually quantify without a "trust me" from Microsoft so his response is about as meaningful as yours.
 
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44. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 13:52 jacobvandy
 
Cutter wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 11:51:
InBlack wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 11:14:
descender wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 10:02:

Real-world application performance difference between the operating systems is virtually non-existent. There's nothing really "wrong" with it at this point once you get 8.1 and classic shell, and there is no reason you would choose 7 over 8 for a new computer today... but there is basically nothing compelling or forcing an upgrade over 7 for existing machines.

This. Also, why would anyone consider DX12 exclusivity to be anything but a bait job to lure 'gamers' into upgrading and how is that exactly a good thing?

And all those bells and whistles in any new DX won't make it into games anytime soon either. Every time this happens it's always years our before people start making use of it. How long did it take for 64 bit gaming to become a reality? Christ I was using 64bit NT waiting for the 64 bit revolution...that is slowly happening almost 20 years later. And it's not like the consoles can take advantage of any of this stuff so that rules out a ton of games right there. Indeed there's really zero reason to upgrade.

Actually DX12 support is coming to Xbox One, so it may be the most quickly adopted version of the API in recent memory. The DX10/11 situation of last-gen caused by consoles being stuck on DX9 or equivalent is not likely to repeat itself. MS will be leaning on Xbone devs to make use of it and Sony will be pressured to keep up with their own API updates, both of which hopefully mean PC ports will benefit from better source material.
 
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43. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 13:37 Dev
 
I do believe this is the first fruit of ms rededicating themselves to PC.

Good ole MS, continually looking to screw PC gamers over
 
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42. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 11:51 Cutter
 
InBlack wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 11:14:
descender wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 10:02:

Real-world application performance difference between the operating systems is virtually non-existent. There's nothing really "wrong" with it at this point once you get 8.1 and classic shell, and there is no reason you would choose 7 over 8 for a new computer today... but there is basically nothing compelling or forcing an upgrade over 7 for existing machines.

This. Also, why would anyone consider DX12 exclusivity to be anything but a bait job to lure 'gamers' into upgrading and how is that exactly a good thing?

And all those bells and whistles in any new DX won't make it into games anytime soon either. Every time this happens it's always years our before people start making use of it. How long did it take for 64 bit gaming to become a reality? Christ I was using 64bit NT waiting for the 64 bit revolution...that is slowly happening almost 20 years later. And it's not like the consoles can take advantage of any of this stuff so that rules out a ton of games right there. Indeed there's really zero reason to upgrade.
 
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41. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 11:20 harlock
 
wow, really pushed a button there, huh?

LOL

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40. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 11:14 InBlack
 
descender wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 10:02:

Real-world application performance difference between the operating systems is virtually non-existent. There's nothing really "wrong" with it at this point once you get 8.1 and classic shell, and there is no reason you would choose 7 over 8 for a new computer today... but there is basically nothing compelling or forcing an upgrade over 7 for existing machines.

This. Also, why would anyone consider DX12 exclusivity to be anything but a bait job to lure 'gamers' into upgrading and how is that exactly a good thing?
 
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39. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 10:02 descender
 
Yes, "on paper" it uses a bit less memory (less than 200MB difference IIRC) and saves you 7 seconds on boot-up (their warm boot can suckit, causes more BSOD's in corporate environments than anything else in my experience). Whoop-dee-doo~ The once a month I have to reboot my computer I will make sure to relish in that saved time. Oh, it copies files slightly faster in windows explorer (if you use that sort of thing and not teracopy for some reason). Yay!

Real-world application performance difference between the operating systems is virtually non-existent. There's nothing really "wrong" with it at this point once you get 8.1 and classic shell, and there is no reason you would choose 7 over 8 for a new computer today... but there is basically nothing compelling or forcing an upgrade over 7 for existing machines.
 
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38. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 05:59 ViRGE
 
jacobvandy wrote on Jul 4, 2015, 23:35:
Blackhawk wrote on Jul 4, 2015, 19:47:
From what I've seen, this is a replacement for the mobile version of the game, meant for Win 10 devices, not PCs (although it is playable on Win 10 PCs.) It is not the replacement for the PC version.

MS just did a crappy job of communicating that.

Then why give it to owners of the standard Java version for free? That right there implies its purpose as a replacement. The mobile version for iOS and Android isn't being replaced by a Windows store app, and considering their respective mobile market shares, a change of direction for the Windows Phone version is hardly worthy of attention on its own. Watch this new unified Win10 version go forward with development while the original PC edition is abandoned.
Because can you imagine the holy hell that would erupt if they charged for it, when you can already play Minecraft on Windows via Java? There's a no win situation here; there are legitimate reasons to port the Pocket Edition to Windows for use on Win10 tablets and such, as Java Minecraft is comparatively speaking an absolute hog. PE/Win10 is going to run a lot better on those low-end devices, like it does today on Android and iOS tablets.

That said, I do suspect you're right in that this is the eventual direction of Minecraft. With the common PE codebase among all platform-specific versions, the Java version of Minecraft is the odd man out. At some point Mojang is going to want to wind down having two code bases. But there's a long way to go until PE (or rather, I suspect this is based on the XB1 version) can replace the Java version, even without accounting for mods.
 
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37. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 05:13 NewMaxx
 
Windows 10 for ARK SLI, 'nough said  
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36. No subject Jul 5, 2015, 04:49 Mashiki Amiketo
 
descender wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 00:10:
There is really nothing about 8/8.1 (UI replacement or not) that is an improvement over 7. Especially the half-in half-out metro UI shit like your network connections and such.

As someone who works with both operating systems on a daily basis... you all really have no idea what you are talking about. Anecdotal nonsense rules the day around here.

So no lower overhead? Faster boot times, better kernel optimization? Well guys pack it in, all that anecdotal evidence in the quote just packs it in.
 



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35. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 03:09 saluk
 
I love how a guy who uses win8.1 criticized microsoft for trying to force win10, was subsequently criticized for using win8.1, and then the thread ran far far away from either windows 10 or minecraft.  
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34. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 01:51 Sepharo
 
We use 8.1 at work. Throw classic shell on there and it's the best Windows I've used. Still have 7 at home but will probably do the free 10 when it launches.  
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33. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 01:49 SESNut
 
harlock wrote on Jul 4, 2015, 20:27:
i suppose if you dont have to bother repairing machines with windows 8 or 8.1, then you might not understand - and thats ok

because yeh ignorance is bliss im sure

nice sense of humor too btw

yea because repairing windows 8 is a whole lot easier than any past version of windows

can you refresh windows 7?

no? k.
 
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32. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 5, 2015, 00:10 descender
 
There is really nothing about 8/8.1 (UI replacement or not) that is an improvement over 7. Especially the half-in half-out metro UI shit like your network connections and such.

As someone who works with both operating systems on a daily basis... you all really have no idea what you are talking about. Anecdotal nonsense rules the day around here.
 
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31. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 4, 2015, 23:35 jacobvandy
 
Blackhawk wrote on Jul 4, 2015, 19:47:
From what I've seen, this is a replacement for the mobile version of the game, meant for Win 10 devices, not PCs (although it is playable on Win 10 PCs.) It is not the replacement for the PC version.

MS just did a crappy job of communicating that.

Then why give it to owners of the standard Java version for free? That right there implies its purpose as a replacement. The mobile version for iOS and Android isn't being replaced by a Windows store app, and considering their respective mobile market shares, a change of direction for the Windows Phone version is hardly worthy of attention on its own. Watch this new unified Win10 version go forward with development while the original PC edition is abandoned.
 
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30. Re: Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition Beta Announced Jul 4, 2015, 23:21 NKD
 
This is just a port of Pocket Edition which they've been developing for years to Win10 devices, basically.

Also Mojang hasn't done anything notable with the main version of Minecraft in ages. Modders have effectively standardized on a version of Minecraft that is over a year old at this point. There's literally no reason to play anything newer than 1.7.10 because that's what all the mods are for and updated on.
 
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