Cutter wrote on Jun 30, 2015, 11:26:
We need to drop our military period. We'll never have the size or resources to make an effective one and that money could be better served everywhere else. Look at what happened with Germany and Japan after WWII when they weren't permitted to waste money on the military any more, strongest economies in the world. Some drones and nukes are all you really need these days.

Drones are definitely the future. The F-35 will be obsolete within the next decade, about the time they'll be rolling out into service.

Jamil20 wrote on Jun 30, 2015, 09:57:

Test Pilot Admits the F-35 Can’t Dogfight

We(Canada) need to drop funding for this project already, but Harper won't stop pushing it for the sake of his bank account.

We need to drop our military period. We'll never have the size or resources to make an effective one and that money could be better served everywhere else. Look at what happened with Germany and Japan after WWII when they weren't permitted to waste money on the military any more, strongest economies in the world. Some drones and nukes are all you really need these days.

Assuming you didn't already, run a traceroute next time to help narrow down where the problem is. Could just be routing related.

Jeraxle wrote on Jun 30, 2015, 10:15:
About what time last night Blue? Boston experienced something very similar about midnight last night.

From around 8:00 pm to midnight. MrKawfy wasn't experiencing problems, though, and he's closer to Boston than I am.

The ability of the F-35 to "dogfight" is really irrelevant, it simply isn't designed to do it. Of course it failed to keep up with an F-16, a plane that was designed to dogfight a MiG.

The last official "confirmed" dogfight that I can find happened in 1991, most aerial combat now happens "beyond visual range" at distances of over 80 miles. This is the new war, face to face combat is going the way of the dinosaur.

That is not to excuse it from the clusterfuck of funding and technical problems it has had of course... It would literally have been cheaper to write every person who has worked on it a $1million check than to design this plane we really don't even need anymore. Good luck getting the breadbasket of this country (US) to stop building military hardware though lol... they'd all be out of work.

About what time last night Blue? Boston experienced something very similar about midnight last night.

Test Pilot Admits the F-35 Can’t Dogfight

We(Canada) need to drop funding for this project already, but Harper won't stop pushing it for the sake of his bank account.