Rigs wrote on Jun 27, 2015, 17:23:
The FURY X (i'm waiting for the Nano, personally) isn't all about pure speed, which is pretty much the only thing you green tossers care about. It has a 4096-bit memory interface! What's the 980 got? 256-bit. Blech! HBM memory is going to wipe the floor with Nvidia this go 'round and they know it which is why they're abandoning GDDR for it too!
Ummm... so you are using special applications (it can't be games because the memory bandwidth is not that significant for gaming) that require this kind of memory throughput? Which apps would that be?
There is a reason why nVidia has not been using HBM yet. It's limiting (4GB is max right now) and expensive. nVidia are smart cookies. They will be using HBM when it's ready for prime time and are not going to deliver an undercooked tech demo like AMD.
The Fury is a weak sauce GPU. Its performance barely matches GTX 980Ti in select benchmarks but mostly it trails behind on GTX 980 level while the price is the same as the Ti.
The 4GB memory does become limiting in higher res scenarios.
Many of the review samples have suffered from both, coil and water pump whining. AMD has *supposedly* addressed the pump whine but reports of the first retail cards indicate that the issue has only been reduced, not eliminated.
Example video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ-nYJLiEh0
Overclocking is a no show. It's very limited even though the card stays cool. The limitation seems to be within the architecture which does not allow voltage increases. A fully overclocked 980Ti is running circles around FuryX.
According to some mags, the card does not work in conjunction with certain Asus boards (Z87 chipset). One mag tried testing FuryX in crossfire and it resulted in crashes and black screens. It didn't even boot.
Power efficiency has become better but is still no match for nVidia Maxwell.
Finally, even though relatively minor niggles, but no DVI and no HDMI 2.0 outputs is pretty weak, too.
Or as HARDOCP put it...
The new AMD Fiji GPU and Fury X video card looks awesome on paper, but has underwhelmed and disappointed us when it comes to real world gameplay. The AMD Radeon R9 Fury X feels like a proof of concept for HBM technology.
In terms of gaming performance, the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X seems like better competition for the GeForce GTX 980 4GB video card, rather than the GeForce GTX 980 Ti. GTX 980 cards are selling for as low at $490 today. This is not a good thing since the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X is priced at $649, the same price as the GeForce GTX 980 Ti.
(Editor's Note: AMD's Fury X is starting to show up at Amazon and Newegg this morning.)
Usually trying to decide between two video cards at the same price point is a wash, with very even and split performance. However, this is not the case this time with the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X and GeForce GTX 980 Ti. There is a definite pattern that leads to one video card being the best value for the money, and it is GeForce GTX 980 Ti, not the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X.
Limited VRAM for a flagship $649 video card, sub-par gaming performance for the price, and limited display support options with no HDMI 2.0 and no DVI port. To be honest, we aren't entirely sure who the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X is really built for? The AMD Radeon Fury X is a confusing product, like a technology demo not fully realized, a showcase for HBM only but with no real substance. The AMD Radeon Fury X looks to be a great marketing showcase, but its prowess starts waning when you consider its value to gamers and hardware enthusiasts.
**Update 6/26/2015 On Overclocking**
We've had some time now to do some preliminary overclocking with the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X. We have found that you can control the speed of the fan on the radiator with MSI Afterburner. Turning it up to 100% fan speed keeps the GPU much cooler when attempting to overclock, and isn't that loud.
For example, during our overclocking attempts the GPU was at 37c at full-load removing temperature as a factor holding back overclocking. We also found out that you will not be able to overclock HBM, it is at 500MHz and will stay at 500MHz. You will only be able to overclock the GPU. Currently, there is no way to unlock voltage modification of the GPU.
In our testing we found that the GPU hard locked in gaming at 1150MHz 100% fan speed 37c. Moving down to 1140MHz we were able to play The Witcher 3 without crashing so far. This is with the fan at 100% and 37c degree GPU. So far, 1140MHz seems to be stable, but we have not tested other games nor tested the overclock for a prolonged amount of time.
More testing needs to be done, but our preliminary testing seems to indicate 1130-1140MHz may be the overclock. This is about a 70-80MHz overclock over stock speed of 1050MHz. That is a rather small increase in overclock and doesn't really amount to any gameplay experience or noteworthy performance improvements.
We have at least learned that temperature is not the factor holding the overclock back, at 37c there was a lot of headroom with the liquid cooling system. There are other factors holding the overclock back, one of which may be voltage.