bigspender wrote on Jun 26, 2015, 01:23:
I personally would love to roam the wastelands with another person or 3 to share the experiences with.

Most of the loot would find a use if you can trade with your friends too.

And combat is always more tactical when different play styles are involved.

I bet for 1/2 the game you will have a character or two following you around, it might as well be a human controlled one.

Have you ever played Sonic 2 as Player 2 ie. Tails? Yeah, it fucking sucked. Nobody wants to be Tails.

There was already a multiplayer Fallout...it was a MMO called Fallen Earth. Ripped the Fallout feel off, but in a good way. Was pretty fun as far as MMO's go. Think it's free-to-play now.

NetHead wrote on Jun 26, 2015, 03:14:
I wouldn't expect any kind of multiplayer in any of the Elder Scrolls/Fallout games from Bethesda.

It's a combination of both won't and can't. They know how much their games being highly moddable benefits them, it's the number one sales point and virtually the only thing that keeps their sales going for so long.

With a game that can be so modded multiplayer can become impossible. Mmissing, conflicting, altered, new: land masses, NPCs, monsters, items, abilities, this list would go on for a very long time and goes far beyond textures and meshes etc.

The only way multiplayer would be possible in such a game is if both/all playing had virtually the exact same game, including all installed mods and even those mod's settings in many cases. Very few would not guarantee severe to utterly game breaking/crashing problems.

They haven't avoided multiplayer to focus on singleplayer, or to manage resources or anything else, it's because of mods and the heaps of sales/money mods in turn bring both at release and especially in time.

Perhaps they could design the MP to work similar to how the ARMA series handles it. You use/download only what the server has when you connect to it. You could have a bunch of mods installed, but you can still connect to any ARMA server you desire. You'll simply inherit their setup for that play session. They'd have to totally revamp how the file structure currently works, but if they had a way for co-op to function natively, I think that would do wonders for these games. It's no secret modders have worked on MP mods for these games for a long time.

I wouldn't expect any kind of multiplayer in any of the Elder Scrolls/Fallout games from Bethesda.

It's a combination of both won't and can't. They know how much their games being highly moddable benefits them, it's the number one sales point and virtually the only thing that keeps their sales going for so long.

With a game that can be so modded multiplayer can become impossible. Mmissing, conflicting, altered, new: land masses, NPCs, monsters, items, abilities, this list would go on for a very long time and goes far beyond textures and meshes etc.

The only way multiplayer would be possible in such a game is if both/all playing had virtually the exact same game, including all installed mods and even those mod's settings in many cases. Very few would not guarantee severe to utterly game breaking/crashing problems.

They haven't avoided multiplayer to focus on singleplayer, or to manage resources or anything else, it's because of mods and the heaps of sales/money mods in turn bring both at release and especially in time.

bigspender wrote on Jun 26, 2015, 01:23:
I personally would love to roam the wastelands with another person or 3 to share the experiences with.

Most of the loot would find a use if you can trade with your friends too.

And combat is always more tactical when different play styles are involved.

I bet for 1/2 the game you will have a character or two following you around, it might as well be a human controlled one.

I have to agree with all of this.
With the humble sale on at the moment, I got borderlands 1&2 and I've been playing that with the wife. It's good to be able to play games in coop and fallout would work well in that format.

As for fallout4, I'm still on the bench with it. It's going to take some seriously good videos for me to get over their graphic quality choices at the moment.

I personally would love to roam the wastelands with another person or 3 to share the experiences with.

Most of the loot would find a use if you can trade with your friends too.

And combat is always more tactical when different play styles are involved.

I bet for 1/2 the game you will have a character or two following you around, it might as well be a human controlled one.

There was a multiplayer mod for the original Fallout (or was it FO2?). Dunno how many people actually played it.

Making a multiplayer Fallout would basically throw everything that makes FO good out the window. No reactivity, no meaningful choices, etc.

Open world multiplayer is bland, stupid shit and more often than not the implementation sucks. GTA V is one of the worst MP experiences I've had. Give me single player Fallout and nothing else.

BIG KUDOS to Bethesda for focusing on the SP experience. People who want MP can always go play GTA V or TES Online or some garbage like that. Thanks for not fucking up your games for the LULZ PWNED crowd, Beth. Ya rule!

HorrorScope wrote on Jun 25, 2015, 18:26:
They dream of it, but then the inevitable happens...

an mmorpg...

Parias wrote on Jun 25, 2015, 17:50:
Cool, glad multiplayer has been a consideration at least. I know focus for Fallout should be on the singleplayer experience with the limited time and resources they have, but with the diverse skill trees I've had a lot of dreams about one day doing co-op play in these games.

I wonder whatever happened to that multiplayer mod someone was making for Skyrim?

The most progress has actually been made by a new mod someone's been putting together for the last few weeks. Still buggy and unwieldy as hell, but he got an entity in the game that is mirroring the movements of someone else also playing it.

I'm fine without multiplayer.

I'm glad Bethesda is knocking out these kinds of questions early. I hate it when developers string people along.

They dream of it, but then the inevitable happens... Can we program that in? No one raises hand. lol

Cool, glad multiplayer has been a consideration at least. I know focus for Fallout should be on the singleplayer experience with the limited time and resources they have, but with the diverse skill trees I've had a lot of dreams about one day doing co-op play in these games.

I wonder whatever happened to that multiplayer mod someone was making for Skyrim?