Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted

WB Games announces updated minimum system specifications for the PC edition of Batman: Arkham Knight in a post from yesterday, just a two of days before tomorrow's planned release (thanks DSOGaming). The post adds the AMD Radeon HD 7950 to the spec and also notes that they are working with AMD on performance issues:
The minimum specs for Batman: Arkham Knight for PC have been adjusted and are listed below.

We also want to note that there are some known issues with the performance of Batman: Arkham Knight for PC owners using AMD graphics cards. We are working closely with AMD to rectify these issues as quickly as possible and will provide updates here as they become available. We thank you for your patience in this matter.

MINIMUM:
OS: Win 7 SP1, Win 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3.4 GHz
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (2 GB Memory Minimum) | AMD Radeon HD 7950 (3 GB Memory Minimum)
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection required
Hard Drive: 45 GB available space
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 24, 2015, 09:53
Verno
 
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 24, 2015, 09:53
Jun 24, 2015, 09:53
 Verno
 
AMD has a handful of people on the driver team, they laid off a ton of people in the reorg awhile back. Nvidia has a huge driver team, not to mention developer out reach programs. The reason AMD performance tends to suck on release is because they invest less money into this, both before and after release. You can fire off a question to Nvidia or put in a request for a driver level tweak and get an answer that day. You do the same thing with AMD you're waiting weeks. The constant tessellation problems were a good example of that, people kept saying it was Nvidia specific stuff but it turned out AMD was to blame.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 23, 2015, 09:12
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 23, 2015, 09:12
Jun 23, 2015, 09:12
 
Predictable now... Nvidia announces some new physics/GPU thingamajig, implement it and lo and behold, AMD has problems at release. Gets me wondering if they're doing it on purpose to bank on the false rep amd supposedly has with their drivers.

And they have the balls to call it helping developers. When they announce their smoke thing, what was my comment again? Its like Nvidia is developping this game, not the developers. Guess I was partly right.

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When AMD goes bankrupt, things are going to get worse FTL speed.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 23, 2015, 08:39
nin
 
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 23, 2015, 08:39
Jun 23, 2015, 08:39
 nin
 

fuckity fuck fuck fuck, it's hellbinder!

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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 23, 2015, 07:20
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 23, 2015, 07:20
Jun 23, 2015, 07:20
 
Hellbinder wrote on Jun 23, 2015, 01:00:
dj LiTh wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 18:13:
My last AMD/ATI card was a 9800pro. That came out in 2003, my reasoning was that the drivers for the last few AMD cards i owned were just going to shit (had a 9700 before that). It just seems like a business as usual type of thing for AMD/ATI. Nvidia is far from perfect, but they do put considerably more effort in there drivers.
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yeah bullshit.

9800 was the very next card after the 9700 so what is this "last few amd cards" bullshit?

That was also during the time AMD was wiping the floor with nvidia in the driver and performance department. Nvidia was cheating in every benchmark just to try and keep up. AMD had a public driver beta tester program going during that and the next 2 generations of products. In fact their main driver guy was hired FROM Nvidia.

Seriously.. you guys are like brain washed nvidia drones. posting the same irrational crap in every thread.

Nvidia cheats and does underhanded shit. Those are the facts. Just like what is going on with this game. Do you really think it takes a 3gb AMD card to keep up with a 2GB Nvidia card?

Use your brains people, this is all underhanded marketing bullshit spearheaded by Nvidia.

The only one spouting bullshit is you. I said the 9800pro not the 9800, there is a difference. Maybe you were too young to remember? Maybe you didnt remember just how fun Catalyst drivers were with windows xp at the time regardless of ATI's performance edge against nvidia at the time. Maybe you remember the reason why they started that beta program for their drivers...maybe not.

Unlike you against nvidia, i have nothing against ATI. I would gladly jump ship if see a good reason to. I've always gone with the better overall value, regardless if it was AMD/Intel or ATI/Nvidia.

This comment was edited on Jun 23, 2015, 07:26.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 23, 2015, 01:05
Slick
 
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Re: Op Ed Jun 23, 2015, 01:05
Jun 23, 2015, 01:05
 Slick
 
Overon wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 17:37:
Other Nvidia Gameworks title Witcher 3, Project Cars, and now Arkham Knight runs like shit on AMD cards. We are starting to develop a pattern but we need more data. What other Nvidia Gameworks title runs like shit on AMD cards on release? Those can't be the only examples.

Also the fanboys need to stop and think for a second. The world is going to be far worse off when there is only one player in the gaming graphics business. Competition is good for you. That doesn't mean you should buy cards against your best interest as a consumer. But AMD does keep Nvidia prices lower than they would be otherwise.

my thoughts exactly, bravo.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 23, 2015, 01:00
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 23, 2015, 01:00
Jun 23, 2015, 01:00
 
dj LiTh wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 18:13:
My last AMD/ATI card was a 9800pro. That came out in 2003, my reasoning was that the drivers for the last few AMD cards i owned were just going to shit (had a 9700 before that). It just seems like a business as usual type of thing for AMD/ATI. Nvidia is far from perfect, but they do put considerably more effort in there drivers.
"

yeah bullshit.

9800 was the very next card after the 9700 so what is this "last few amd cards" bullshit?

That was also during the time AMD was wiping the floor with nvidia in the driver and performance department. Nvidia was cheating in every benchmark just to try and keep up. AMD had a public driver beta tester program going during that and the next 2 generations of products. In fact their main driver guy was hired FROM Nvidia.

Seriously.. you guys are like brain washed nvidia drones. posting the same irrational crap in every thread.

Nvidia cheats and does underhanded shit. Those are the facts. Just like what is going on with this game. Do you really think it takes a 3gb AMD card to keep up with a 2GB Nvidia card?

Use your brains people, this is all underhanded marketing bullshit spearheaded by Nvidia.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 23:28
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 23:28
Jun 22, 2015, 23:28
 
WaltC wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 22:18:
ViRGE wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 20:38:
Well the baseline is the XB1/PS4 now, not the last-gen consoles. So they've been able to bump up the asset quality and complexity significantly.

...and that "baseline" is 100% AMD in both consoles, no nVidia anywhere...;) The specs sound ridiculous...I wonder how much they were paid to dump on AMD hardware in such a public manner...? I hope it was enough to justify pissing off at least 50% of their presumed market for the game...Very poor conduct & even worse business sense.


Last I checked, Nvidia was dominating the GPU market. As in, over 70% of PC gamers use Nvidia cards.

Also, these specs seem pretty reasonable for a modern AAA game. The 660 came out like 3 years ago. Any gaming PC should already have at least 8 gigs of RAM. CPU isn't very high end.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 22:18
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 22:18
Jun 22, 2015, 22:18
 
ViRGE wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 20:38:
Well the baseline is the XB1/PS4 now, not the last-gen consoles. So they've been able to bump up the asset quality and complexity significantly.

...and that "baseline" is 100% AMD in both consoles, no nVidia anywhere...;) The specs sound ridiculous...I wonder how much they were paid to dump on AMD hardware in such a public manner...? I hope it was enough to justify pissing off at least 50% of their presumed market for the game...Very poor conduct & even worse business sense.

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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 21:41
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 21:41
Jun 22, 2015, 21:41
 
... hasn't this studio had AMD problems with -every- release at the start?

It's like they don't bother to pull fixes into their next game's engine, or something.

Also, probably the studio is propped up by funds from Nvidia.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 20:38
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 20:38
Jun 22, 2015, 20:38
 
descender wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 19:25:
Still UE3, still same game... specs went up.

Please buy moar hardware!

I don't believe these specs for a minute lol, they are almost as stupid as the GTA5 specs were.
Well the baseline is the XB1/PS4 now, not the last-gen consoles. So they've been able to bump up the asset quality and complexity significantly.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 19:25
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 19:25
Jun 22, 2015, 19:25
 
Still UE3, still same game... specs went up.

Please buy moar hardware!

I don't believe these specs for a minute lol, they are almost as stupid as the GTA5 specs were.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 19:15
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 19:15
Jun 22, 2015, 19:15
 
Jesus, I just realized those are the min specs. That's fucking insane. Welp, I'll be skipping this title for sure now.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2015, 19:03
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2015, 19:03
Jun 22, 2015, 19:03
 
Hehe, I went over to ATI with that card (9800 pro), and had an ATI/AMD since then. Not had big problems with any of the cards.
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 18:13
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 18:13
Jun 22, 2015, 18:13
 
My last AMD/ATI card was a 9800pro. That came out in 2003, my reasoning was that the drivers for the last few AMD cards i owned were just going to shit (had a 9700 before that). It just seems like a business as usual type of thing for AMD/ATI. Nvidia is far from perfect, but they do put considerably more effort in there drivers.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2015, 18:02
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2015, 18:02
Jun 22, 2015, 18:02
 
It's absolutely an AMD problem and they just aren't keeping up when it comes to PC. Both the PS4 and XBone have both an AMD CPU and GPU. There is no excuse.

I think I said this before, but AMD winning the contracts for both consoles has freed up nVidia to focus on PC. Still no excuse for AMD though.


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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2015, 17:59
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2015, 17:59
Jun 22, 2015, 17:59
 
And here is the release notes from the lates Batman ready Nvidia driver, seems it's not just AMD having troubles...

[SLI, Batman: Arkham Knights] With a 4K display, a TDR occurs after the in-game
resolution is toggled and the application is exited. [200116725]

[SLI, Batman: Arkham Knights] Heavy flickering occurs in game after Alt+Tab if SLI is enabled. [200116723]

[SLI, Batman: Arkham Knights] Severe stuttering seen, especially in indoor scenes,
when the game is running at 4K resolution and NVIDIA Gameworks settings are
turned on. [200116722]

[SLI, Batman: Arkham Knights] Random flickering occurs in the game if SLI is
enabled. [200116717]

[GM206, SLI, Batman: Arkham Knights] Stuttering occurs and performance drops
after shadow quality settings are toggled. [200116694]

[GK180, SLI, Batman: Arkham Knights] When SLI is enabled, a crash points to
ntdll.dll shortly after the game is exited. [200116717
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2015, 17:50
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2015, 17:50
Jun 22, 2015, 17:50
 
I was talking about the here and now.
And we still haven't seen many tests of games in 4K, and not the FuryX. We still don't know how it will perform. It has some memory compression algorithms that could make a difference. Even now you can see in some games that AMD uses less memory than Nvidia at same settings. The 290s, 390s (those are not good buys though) you can get in 8GB..

And I still think we are a long way before 4K becomes mainstream among a majority of gamers. According to steam survey just 3% uses a resolution over FullHD..
And when 4K becomes more mainstream, AMD and Nvida is on 16nm and HBM2, so I hope we will have a bright future for gaming

But the reviews for the Fury should be coming this week, hope they will be good for the sake of healthy competition, and better cards and prices for us consumers, be that from Nvida or AMD
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2015, 17:37
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2015, 17:37
Jun 22, 2015, 17:37
 
And this is why you should never ever preorder. Rocksteady is acting like they didn't know about the issues during their testing. Strange cause saying that it runs like shit on AMD cards would not do anything except hurt their preorders and their general sales. Wait a second...

Other Nvidia Gameworks title Witcher 3, Project Cars, and now Arkham Knight runs like shit on AMD cards. We are starting to develop a pattern but we need more data. What other Nvidia Gameworks title runs like shit on AMD cards on release? Those can't be the only examples.

Also the fanboys need to stop and think for a second. The world is going to be far worse off when there is only one player in the gaming graphics business. Competition is good for you. That doesn't mean you should buy cards against your best interest as a consumer. But AMD does keep Nvidia prices lower than they would be otherwise.

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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2015, 17:36
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2015, 17:36
Jun 22, 2015, 17:36
 
krist2 wrote on Jun 22, 2015, 17:33:
Well, atleast it seems an AMD card could be better in the long run, atleast when looking at Witcher 3, where the 780 and 780Ti performs really badly compared to 290 and 290x. The 290 even beats the 780Ti.

In the long run? With a mere 4gb of frame buffer and no ability to play on large screens in 4k? Yeah. That's the future alright. XD
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted
Jun 22, 2015, 17:36
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Re: Batman: Arkham Knight Specs Updated; AMD Issues Noted Jun 22, 2015, 17:36
Jun 22, 2015, 17:36
 
It's strange to see people angry at Nvidia because their AMD card, predictably, doesn't work right in a game for the first couple weeks or more. Nobody is forcing you to keep using that card. And AMD's video card problems existed from when they were called ATI, so you can't feign ignorance.

I'm all for rooting for the underdog, but AMD has had YEARS to stop this shit and they continue to make horrible drivers. The card could be 8x more powerful than a Titan Z and it wouldn't matter if it can't run anything correctly. You're literally defending a company that willfully refuses to succeed.
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