eRe4s3r wrote on May 9, 2015, 05:59:NKD wrote on May 9, 2015, 04:10:Amazon’s rapid growth is driving gentrification into popular neighborhoods such as quirky, traditionally gay, Capitol Hill. But Capitol Hill is becoming ‘less gay’ and LGBTQ hate-crimes jumped from 6 in 2011 to 19 in 2012.
What are they trying to say?
This phenomena is called swarm stupidity.
They confuse correlation and causality like basically every retard in media that has an agenda does nowadays, for the sole reason to make a point about an issue they care about, but have no statistical proof for to reinforce their argumentation. I think they do this intentionally. Reaction to A vs B which is not A == B
But you can be populist in your argumentation far easier, and thus draw in far more supporters, when you forgo logic and basic journalist integrity![]()
HorrorScope wrote on May 9, 2015, 17:37:Beamer wrote on May 9, 2015, 12:53:
Seattle was definitely getting more expensive, and so many of the new buildings going up in Belltown were crap, but it's got a really, really long way to go before it's even remotely close to NYC.
Doesn't NYC have laws that have to have so many affordable houses? Not the typical, for the really poor. But for middle class. I thought they had something so middle class can live in the city and still get the basic jobs done.
Beamer wrote on May 9, 2015, 12:53:
Seattle was definitely getting more expensive, and so many of the new buildings going up in Belltown were crap, but it's got a really, really long way to go before it's even remotely close to NYC.
ForgedReality wrote on May 9, 2015, 11:47:killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 11:21:HorrorScope wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:52:killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:48:
Ultimately, both the people AND the businesses matter. Without the former, the city withers - without the latter it either hollows out or becomes an irrational plaything for those too wealthy to have concerns with money.
True. Seattle is a meca to now, I'm sure prices were already high, they are going higher, it's going to be an LA/NY/Chi/SF if it isn't already.
I've been doing some research out there (actually have been looking into jobs with Amazon's corporate headquarters), and from what I've seen of apartments there they're probably pretty close to Chicago territory for cost, although not to the level of NYC, DC, or SF. (LA is just too all over the place to make a good determination on, although the places people want to live tend to cost pretty similarly to DC.)
650sq ft studio for $2300/mo isn't enough for you?
ForgedReality wrote on May 9, 2015, 11:47:killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 11:21:HorrorScope wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:52:killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:48:
Ultimately, both the people AND the businesses matter. Without the former, the city withers - without the latter it either hollows out or becomes an irrational plaything for those too wealthy to have concerns with money.
True. Seattle is a meca to now, I'm sure prices were already high, they are going higher, it's going to be an LA/NY/Chi/SF if it isn't already.
I've been doing some research out there (actually have been looking into jobs with Amazon's corporate headquarters), and from what I've seen of apartments there they're probably pretty close to Chicago territory for cost, although not to the level of NYC, DC, or SF. (LA is just too all over the place to make a good determination on, although the places people want to live tend to cost pretty similarly to DC.)
650sq ft studio for $2300/mo isn't enough for you?
killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 11:21:HorrorScope wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:52:killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:48:
Ultimately, both the people AND the businesses matter. Without the former, the city withers - without the latter it either hollows out or becomes an irrational plaything for those too wealthy to have concerns with money.
True. Seattle is a meca to now, I'm sure prices were already high, they are going higher, it's going to be an LA/NY/Chi/SF if it isn't already.
I've been doing some research out there (actually have been looking into jobs with Amazon's corporate headquarters), and from what I've seen of apartments there they're probably pretty close to Chicago territory for cost, although not to the level of NYC, DC, or SF. (LA is just too all over the place to make a good determination on, although the places people want to live tend to cost pretty similarly to DC.)
HorrorScope wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:52:killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:48:
Ultimately, both the people AND the businesses matter. Without the former, the city withers - without the latter it either hollows out or becomes an irrational plaything for those too wealthy to have concerns with money.
True. Seattle is a meca to now, I'm sure prices were already high, they are going higher, it's going to be an LA/NY/Chi/SF if it isn't already.
killer_roach wrote on May 9, 2015, 10:48:
Ultimately, both the people AND the businesses matter. Without the former, the city withers - without the latter it either hollows out or becomes an irrational plaything for those too wealthy to have concerns with money.
Jaxx wrote on May 9, 2015, 06:46:
The people having to pay the price for this are those of lower incomes. There have been multiple instances of fixed income apartment buildings being sold and remodeled. This forces ALL the tenants out and of course are told they can have their apt back, for three times the rent they were paying.
And lastly, politically we are a cesspool. What the citizens want, doesn't matter. The businesses are what matter for the most part. because they want more room, they tear down historical sections of town and reduce the amount of parking. They push for more public transportation, but push the bill on the tax payers.
It honestly sucks to see this city beautiful going the way it is.
Jaxx wrote on May 9, 2015, 06:46:
The work environment is very caustic from reports of friends.
And lastly, politically we are a cesspool. What the citizens want, doesn't matter. The businesses are what matter for the most part.
It honestly sucks to see this city beautiful going the way it is.
Jaxx wrote on May 9, 2015, 06:46:Xoxotl wrote on May 9, 2015, 03:24:
I will summarize this article in one sentence: "Amazon is bringing too many white males into Seattle. We find this unacceptable."
So, yeah, it's basically one long racist and sexist rant.
I almost didn't respond because that was pretty idiotic. That was nto what the article was saying.
When I arrived in Seattle in 1991, Tim Wistrom’s art playfully epitomized post-apocalyptic Seattle. But increasingly, the city’s likely doom appears much less fantastic and closer: an unaffordable traffic-filled metropolis dominated by white males and devoid of independent culture — fueled by Amazon.
Xoxotl wrote on May 9, 2015, 03:24:
I will summarize this article in one sentence: "Amazon is bringing too many white males into Seattle. We find this unacceptable."
So, yeah, it's basically one long racist and sexist rant.
NKD wrote on May 9, 2015, 04:10:Amazon’s rapid growth is driving gentrification into popular neighborhoods such as quirky, traditionally gay, Capitol Hill. But Capitol Hill is becoming ‘less gay’ and LGBTQ hate-crimes jumped from 6 in 2011 to 19 in 2012.
What are they trying to say?