Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs

VG247 has details on how owners of Dark Souls II will be able to upgrade to the upcoming Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin that repackages From Software's action/RPG with DirectX 11 support among other improvements. As was suspected when this was announced, this will not be a free upgrade, though the information they have on upgrade pricing is confusing, as they say this will cost owners of Dark Souls II $29.99 to upgrade, while those who own the game and all it's DLC will be charged $19.99, which seems to be the exact opposite of how this should work, and they have reached out to Bandai Namco for clarification. They also offer specs for the upgrade:
Minimum requirements
OS: Windows 7 SP1 64bit / Windows 8.1 64bit
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 3.1GHz / AMD A8 3870 3.6GHz
Memory: 4GB RAM
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 / ATI Radeon HD 6870, DirectX: 11
Network: Broadband Internet Connection
Hard Drive: 23GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX11 sound device
Additional Notes: Controller support: Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller for Windows (or equivalent) recommended

Recommended requirements
OS: Windows 7 SP1 64bit / Windows 8.1 64bit
CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 3.4GHz / AMD FX 8150 3.6GHz or better
Memory: 8GB RAM or better
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 (700 series) or better / ATI Radeon HD 7850 (7000 series) or better, DirectX: 11
Network: Broadband Internet Connection
Hard Drive: 23GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX11 sound device
Additional Notes: Controller support: Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller for Windows (or equivalent) recommended
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Mar 29, 2015, 11:28
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 29, 2015, 11:28
Mar 29, 2015, 11:28
 
Alright, this is horse shit. $20 for a graphical update and a few tweaks? It should be free for season pass owners.
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Mar 28, 2015, 17:08
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 17:08
Mar 28, 2015, 17:08
 
Yeah, looked at that way it is pretty disappointing. If you bought it from Steam, you might try complaining. I don't know if it will get you anywhere, but it's worth a shot.

It always sucks when you buy something then the price drops significantly a few days later.
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Mar 28, 2015, 15:11
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 15:11
Mar 28, 2015, 15:11
 
jacobvandy wrote on Mar 28, 2015, 12:59:
Hold on, let me try to understand this...

VG247's ace reporter (/sarcasm) writes the following:

The new scheme – while encouraging double-dipping, does seem to favour those who haven’t bought the DLC for Dark Souls 2.

Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin (DirectX11): $49.99
DirectX11 Upgrade price for existing owners of Dark Souls II on Steam: $29.99
DirectX11 Upgrade price for existing owners of Dark Souls II and all DLC on Steam: $19.99

How do those prices favor those who have NOT already bought the DLC? Either he's a sloppy writer (made a typo, changed the angle but missed a reference to the old one, has more information he's not including, etc.), or he simply does not have a grasp of the subject despite its seemingly cut and dry nature.

But then, Blue, you agree with this contradictory synopsis in the process of copy-pasting the information? Asleep at the wheel again? :p

The only thing I can fathom is he's trying to comment on the fairness of the game's pricing on the whole, i.e. the Season Pass normally costs $25 but it only gets you a $10 discount for the DX11 upgrade compared to just owning the game. Except he doesn't mention anything like that in the article... I'm not a mind-reader Sherif!

Say two days ago I bought the season pass for 25.00 bucks, finally giving in to get the extra missions and such.
My brother doesn't.
Then they announce the upgrade, and let me know due to me having just bought the season pass, I only pay 19.99 for the upgrade.
Not bad, considering my brother would have to pay 29.99 for the upgrade.
However . . . had I just waited two more days to buy the season pass, and then seen the upgrade edition was coming out and waited on it, I'd only be out 29.99 as a whole, rather than 25.00 + 19.99 = 44.99 instead.
That, I'm guessing, is what he means by favoring those who have not bought the DLC because for just 4.99 more than the cost of the season pass, you get a full game with upgraded graphics and all the DLC, and since all I wanted at that point was the DLC, I'd be willing to drop 4.99 more and just go with the upgraded version instead.
At least that's my take on it.
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Mar 28, 2015, 14:31
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 14:31
Mar 28, 2015, 14:31
 
The update isn't just improved graphics. They revamped some areas, bosses, the difficulty, etc. Anyone looking for an example there are youtube videos, most taking place in Heidi's Tower of Flame which adds new encounters such as a dragon guarding the Cathedral of Blue, an update to the Old Dragonslayer boss in the zone and the addition of several Heidi Knights to the area. I personally probably won't buy it, I've had my fill of DS2. For now.

And for the record Bloodborne is in no way harder than Dark Souls 2, let alone the original DS. Most the enemies are easily avoidable, the game gives you so many health potions your bank fills up with them. There aren't nearly as much variety in gear and thus animation sets and you don't loose health when you die. From everyone I know who's played (including myself) we feel it is dramatically dumbed down.

That doesn't mean its a bad game. It's still a FROM game, so it has amazing environments, interesting bosses that take a while to beat and to figure out the right strategy, a punishing combat system that - no matter how much easier in the long run - punishes mistakes and lazy play. It's also a long game at about 26 hours played for me, which considering most console releases your lucky to get half that, was a pleasant surprise.
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Mar 28, 2015, 14:13
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Mar 28, 2015, 14:13
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garrywong wrote on Mar 28, 2015, 12:25:
Do we have any screenshots of the improved graphics, yet?
I haven't bought any DLCs for the game yet, so I might be interested in this if it includes all DLC plus the graphics.

It includes all of the DLC plus graphics upgrades. Scholar of the First Sin is essentially the GotY edition+upgrades. I wouldn't expect much from the improved graphics, though.

The bigger enhancements are going to be things like altered enemy placements, changed bosses, some extra content, additional multiplayer capabilities.
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Mar 28, 2015, 12:59
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 12:59
Mar 28, 2015, 12:59
 
Hold on, let me try to understand this...

VG247's ace reporter (/sarcasm) writes the following:

The new scheme – while encouraging double-dipping, does seem to favour those who haven’t bought the DLC for Dark Souls 2.

Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin (DirectX11): $49.99
DirectX11 Upgrade price for existing owners of Dark Souls II on Steam: $29.99
DirectX11 Upgrade price for existing owners of Dark Souls II and all DLC on Steam: $19.99

How do those prices favor those who have NOT already bought the DLC? Either he's a sloppy writer (made a typo, changed the angle but missed a reference to the old one, has more information he's not including, etc.), or he simply does not have a grasp of the subject despite its seemingly cut and dry nature.

But then, Blue, you agree with this contradictory synopsis in the process of copy-pasting the information? Asleep at the wheel again? :p

The only thing I can fathom is he's trying to comment on the fairness of the game's pricing on the whole, i.e. the Season Pass normally costs $25 but it only gets you a $10 discount for the DX11 upgrade compared to just owning the game. Except he doesn't mention anything like that in the article... I'm not a mind-reader Sherif!

This comment was edited on Mar 28, 2015, 13:07.
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs
Mar 28, 2015, 12:25
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 12:25
Mar 28, 2015, 12:25
 
Do we have any screenshots of the improved graphics, yet?
I haven't bought any DLCs for the game yet, so I might be interested in this if it includes all DLC plus the graphics.
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Mar 28, 2015, 12:07
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 12:07
Mar 28, 2015, 12:07
 
Does this include all the DLC with better graphics? That's buying the game again really.
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Mar 28, 2015, 12:00
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 12:00
Mar 28, 2015, 12:00
 
Bloodborne just came out.. why would you go back to dark souls?

Pretty much the consensus is that bloodborne has better combat than dark souls.

Probably people who don't own a PS4, Bloodborne is a Sony exclusive and unlikely to ever come to the PC platform
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Mar 28, 2015, 11:58
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 11:58
Mar 28, 2015, 11:58
 
Bloodborne just came out.. why would you go back to dark souls?

Pretty much the consensus is that bloodborne has better combat than dark souls.
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Mar 28, 2015, 10:49
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Re: Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Pricing & Specs Mar 28, 2015, 10:49
Mar 28, 2015, 10:49
 
Yeah, too much money. I'd maybe pay $10 for it on the high end. Especially since it hasn't been out all that long and is far from being a technical masterpiece.

I suppose, on the other hand, since it will probably be about a year from now that I want to replay it, it will hopefully be about that or less by then.
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Mar 28, 2015, 10:42
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Mar 28, 2015, 10:42
 
Dark Souls doesn't seem like a game where you can simply stop and enjoy the slightly-higher quality textures on rocks. Pretty shady if any game-related performance patching is tied in to the purchase too.
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Mar 28, 2015, 10:31
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Mar 28, 2015, 10:31
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DS2: Scholars includes the DLC, so it makes sense that it would cost less if you already own the game and the DLC.
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