Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics [Feb 04, 2015, 10:54 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
The
Game Developers Conference 2015 Scheduler shows a session to be presented by
Valve at next month's GDC on "The Future of High Performance Graphics," which
will include members of the Frostbite engine team, Epic Games, Oxide Games, and
Unity (thanks
PC Gamer). With Valve focused on the ability to offer games
independent of Windows, getting
better control over the graphics API seems a next logical step following the
launch of SteamOS, and the description of the session suggests that's what this
is about:
Join us for the unveiling of Khronos' glNext initiative, the upcoming cross-platform graphics API designed for modern programming techniques and processors. glNext will be the singular choice for developers who demand peak performance in their applications. We will present a technical breakdown of the API, advanced techniques and live demos of real-world applications running on glNext drivers and hardware.
InBlack wrote on Feb 5, 2015, 02:27:I hope so! Come on, Linux.
It's early days yet. Give it time. Once Windows starts closing its ecosystem and if this crossplatform API turns out to be the shit, Linux desktops are finally going to be catching on.
Crazy awesome.
It's early days yet. Give it time. Once Windows starts closing its ecosystem and if this crossplatform API turns out to be the shit, Linux desktops are finally going to be catching on.
I have a nifty blue line!
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 22:58
Feb 4, 2015, 22:58
Fair enough
Let's hope Valve will actually finish some of these projects in our life time.
Let's hope Valve will actually finish some of these projects in our life time.
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SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:14:
But you say it yourself, in order to run Origin you need to run Wine or some other Linux platform. Well that is exactly my point. SteamOS is not capable to run anything but Steam stuff.
SteamOS is perfectly capable of running anything, its not Valves job to port every program under the sun. On a console you can't just publish a program without permission, you can do that on Windows and SteamOS. They are no different, Windows just has more compatibility.
You're a cool guy but there is no other way to put it here, you are wrong about pretty much everything related to SteamOS. I installed it for awhile and don't use it anymore but that's a personal choice because its so fucking alpha right now it hurts.
SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 22:23:Sepharo wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 22:17:than I don't get your commentsSpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:36:Sepharo wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:05:Right, never mind reading the thread. The last few posts are good enough
lol... by available I don't just mean available but I mean something else. Gosh that should be obvious.
Oh I've read it.
I was well aware of the beta being available since 2013 Dec I even said on the previous page that I did not see any huge leap forward in the beta since it's release.
Anyways!
Hopefully Valve can pull it off.
You kind of put words in your own mouth and I found that funny.
You previously hadn't said "available" but others had. But then you responded, "By available I meant it is finished. Thought it was obvious but it seems like it wasn't for everyone."
:-beatingdeadhorse-:
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 22:23
Feb 4, 2015, 22:23
Sepharo wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 22:17:than I don't get your commentsSpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:36:Sepharo wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:05:Right, never mind reading the thread. The last few posts are good enough
lol... by available I don't just mean available but I mean something else. Gosh that should be obvious.
Oh I've read it.
I was well aware of the beta being available since 2013 Dec I even said on the previous page that I did not see any huge leap forward in the beta since it's release.
Anyways!
Hopefully Valve can pull it off.
Steam: SpectralMeat
SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:36:Sepharo wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:05:Right, never mind reading the thread. The last few posts are good enough
lol... by available I don't just mean available but I mean something else. Gosh that should be obvious.
Oh I've read it.
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 21:36
Feb 4, 2015, 21:36
Sepharo wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 21:05:Right, never mind reading the thread. The last few posts are good enough
lol... by available I don't just mean available but I mean something else. Gosh that should be obvious.
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SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 20:58:Krovven wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 19:13:Right right available to download the beta version.SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:31:
Dude SteamOS is out like Star Citizen is out, wtf are you talking about?
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download
Yes. It's available to download for anyone that can do a google search.
By available I meant it is finished. Thought it was obvious but it seems like it wasn't for everyone.
lol... by available I don't just mean available but I mean something else. Gosh that should be obvious.
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 20:58
Feb 4, 2015, 20:58
Krovven wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 19:13:Right right available to download the beta version.SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:31:
Dude SteamOS is out like Star Citizen is out, wtf are you talking about?
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download
Yes. It's available to download for anyone that can do a google search.
By available I meant it is finished. Thought it was obvious but it seems like it wasn't for everyone.
Steam: SpectralMeat
Creston wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 10:09:
Ah yes, this is exactly what we need, yet another graphics API to continuously keep fragmenting the market. Yay?
yah, when i think of OpenGL, all i can think is: "now who is this new young upstart?" That's all we need, one more brand new 23-year old API fragmenting the market.
*and before you all say: "it's not openGL it's GLnext" i'll tell you that new branding on an iteration of an old product does not a new product make. unless they throw out everything they've been doing, and have decided to just make a new API from scratch.
This comment was edited on Feb 4, 2015, 20:42.
SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:31:
Yeah choice is good like we have Linux and MacOS and all that great stuff and guess what people use for gaming?
Wonder why?
All I am saying is unless SteamOS offers something that is better for users than what we already have noone will use it. Kind of like right now about 5 people uses Linux for gaming according to steam h/s survey.
What topic are we in? Oh right...glNext a modern alternative for gaming API's across multiple platforms.
You do understand why Windows is the dominant PC gaming platform? DirectX. They are trying to create a modern alternative as one doesn't currently exist.
But by your words, they shouldn't even try with SteamOS and glNext because it won't be good enough right away?
SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:31:
Dude SteamOS is out like Star Citizen is out, wtf are you talking about?
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download
Yes. It's available to download for anyone that can do a google search.
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 18:40
Feb 4, 2015, 18:40
DukeFNukem wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:37:Cell phones?SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:31:
Dude SteamOS is out like Star Citizen is out, wtf are you talking about?
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
Yeah choice is good like we have Linux and MacOS and all that great stuff and guess what people use for gaming?
Wonder why. Get a clue
All I am saying is unless SteamOS offers something that is better for users than what we already have noone will use it just like about 5 people uses Linux for gaming
Yeah but Linux is on how many cellphones? Your talking about desktops. More people play cellphone games on Linux than Windows. You need to get a clue.
Who the fuck cares about cell phones man. I am talking about gaming on the PC here
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Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 18:37
Feb 4, 2015, 18:37
SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:31:
Dude SteamOS is out like Star Citizen is out, wtf are you talking about?
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
Yeah choice is good like we have Linux and MacOS and all that great stuff and guess what people use for gaming?
Wonder why. Get a clue
All I am saying is unless SteamOS offers something that is better for users than what we already have noone will use it just like about 5 people uses Linux for gaming
Yeah but Linux is on how many cellphones? Your talking about desktops. More people play cellphone games on Linux than Windows. You need to get a clue.
I'm sorry to inform the general public that vaccines DO NOT bestow upon thee eternal life. If you're around the age of 80 you need to be making your peace with God or the easter bunny. Whichever you believe in.
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 18:31
Feb 4, 2015, 18:31
Dude SteamOS is out like Star Citizen is out, wtf are you talking about?
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
Yeah choice is good like we have Linux and MacOS and all that great stuff and guess what people use for gaming?
Wonder why?
All I am saying is unless SteamOS offers something that is better for users than what we already have noone will use it. Kind of like right now about 5 people uses Linux for gaming according to steam h/s survey.
This comment was edited on Feb 4, 2015, 18:38.
Are you drunk?
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ Just read what it says there
Yeah choice is good like we have Linux and MacOS and all that great stuff and guess what people use for gaming?
Wonder why?
All I am saying is unless SteamOS offers something that is better for users than what we already have noone will use it. Kind of like right now about 5 people uses Linux for gaming according to steam h/s survey.
This comment was edited on Feb 4, 2015, 18:38.
Steam: SpectralMeat
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 18:26
Feb 4, 2015, 18:26
Oh you mean, like on store-shelves in cardboard boxes out? Hahahaha, I see what you did there. Good one. Funny stuff.
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Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 18:24
Feb 4, 2015, 18:24
SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 18:14:
But you say it yourself, in order to run Origin you need to run Wine or some other Linux platform.
Well that is exactly my point. SteamOS is not capable to run anything but Steam stuff.
If you have to run something else in order to play your other games than might as well just run Windows that does everything already.
It's not about my expectations it's just that I don't see the justification in running SteamOS when Windows does everything without limitations and does it better.
Because it would be open-source cross-platform. That's why. If you don't understand the benefits of those 4 words when they are combined, then you probably just don't understand.
All you are saying is "We already have an API that plays all the games I want to play so why bother with anything else". Because choice, freedom, power, and transparency are all good attributes of any product you want or desire.
DirectX was all good up until the point Microsoft tried to foist their Windows 8 pig on the world. This is why choice is always a good thing.
I'm sorry to inform the general public that vaccines DO NOT bestow upon thee eternal life. If you're around the age of 80 you need to be making your peace with God or the easter bunny. Whichever you believe in.
Re: Valve on the Future of High Performance Graphics
Feb 4, 2015, 18:15
Feb 4, 2015, 18:15
DukeFNukem wrote on Feb 4, 2015, 17:17:
SteamOS has already been delivered...are you fully aware of your surroundings? How many fingers am I holding up?
SteamOS is out eh?
That was a good one.
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