Morning Consolidation

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 17:02
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Jan 28, 2015, 17:02
 
panbient wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 15:57:
chickenboo wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 13:50:
Okay, but isn't this just an extension of the service model of game delivery? Take Steam for instance: when you buy a game on steam, you buy the right to access the game from their library. Steam can revoke this contract at any time and at that time, you will no longer own the game. Or at least that's my understanding of how Steam works.

Not quite. You're not logging into their library so much as accessing your hard drive through their front end (there is offline mode after all).

Even if they revoke a license you've still got a copy of the game on your computer. It might not launch through Steam anymore but that doesn't mean the files will disappear from your hard drive, it just means you'll need to find the actual executable file and launch it yourself (at least for single player games).

Well, except that this idea is for consoles, not PC.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 17:00
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m00t wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 12:24:
Isn't this just another name for "Demo"?

The difference is that demos are opt-in. What they want is opt-out. That way if you forget to cancel, they get money anyway.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 15:57
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 28, 2015, 15:57
Jan 28, 2015, 15:57
 
chickenboo wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 13:50:
Okay, but isn't this just an extension of the service model of game delivery? Take Steam for instance: when you buy a game on steam, you buy the right to access the game from their library. Steam can revoke this contract at any time and at that time, you will no longer own the game. Or at least that's my understanding of how Steam works.

Not quite. You're not logging into their library so much as accessing your hard drive through their front end (there is offline mode after all).

Even if they revoke a license you've still got a copy of the game on your computer. It might not launch through Steam anymore but that doesn't mean the files will disappear from your hard drive, it just means you'll need to find the actual executable file and launch it yourself (at least for single player games).
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 14:44
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Jan 28, 2015, 14:44
 
In fairness, I think the actual term EA is looking for is "shareware", and they should talk to Apogee Games about what they did in 1990.

Releasing the first component of a game with the ability to unlock the rest doesn't divert resources the way that a demo with its own build does. Nothing worse than spending weeks slapping together a demo with its own exe and asset packs when the game isn't polished.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 13:50
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 28, 2015, 13:50
Jan 28, 2015, 13:50
 
Okay, but isn't this just an extension of the service model of game delivery? Take Steam for instance: when you buy a game on steam, you buy the right to access the game from their library. Steam can revoke this contract at any time and at that time, you will no longer own the game. Or at least that's my understanding of how Steam works.
So for EA, they could easily implement a function where you can access any game at any time, and after 15 minutes of play, your account would be charged X amount per 15 minutes, up to a maximum of the $60 box cost. This way, games are provided more as a service, and less as a discrete purchase. This also allows EA to control the service in the way they want.
Ugh, I hate referring to games as "services" but that's the model for MMOs currently and I think it's just too convenient for publishing and development houses to adopt the model themselves.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 13:38
PHJF
 
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Jan 28, 2015, 13:38
 PHJF
 
It already got a new definition in the Apple store.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 13:25
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Jan 28, 2015, 13:25
 
Uh yeah, they're called demos. Leave it to the fucking marketers to spin the bullshit.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 12:24
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Jan 28, 2015, 12:24
 
Isn't this just another name for "Demo"?
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 28, 2015, 10:04
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Jan 28, 2015, 10:04
 
Free to start is what I've been touting for mmo's, in my case Free to Sub. The benefit is everyone can try it out, huge beni and if you like it you sub from there. I still prefer subs to microtrans for mmo's, so you don't feel shortchanged or pressured to have a constant buy. And the sub shows a commitment so it weeds out some bad apples. Well that is if there was a mmo worth playing anymore.
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