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Orogogus wrote on Jan 23, 2015, 01:03:
eRe4s3r wrote on Jan 23, 2015, 00:31:
Orogogus wrote on Jan 22, 2015, 15:26:
What kind of electronic age verification works internationally?

And there, you see, is the problem It would be a hodgepodge of national solutions, but either that or censorship.

I get that. But you seem kind of mad at Valve for not having an electronic age verification ("Steam refuses to implement an age check", "we've been complaining about"), when it seems to me that it would be practically impossible without making purchases ridiculously difficult and intrusive.

Like, even if it were US-only, I don't know how they could do that without 1) having way more access than they should have to government databases, 2) making something ridiculously easy to bypass (attach a scan of your driver's license!), or 3) making purchases more difficult than they have to be (credit card only, show up in person to confirm electronic transactions, etc.).

Internationally it would be completely absurd. If they had that kind of capability then they'd obviously be an intelligence agency front masquerading as a video game company.

In Germany it's actually illegal to copy your passport... ;p Anyway I am not saying it would be easy, but if not Steam then who has the market power to do this? Steam simply needs to partner with the national level systems that are in place for this, it's not like US/Germany/France/England don't have that already in place, tons of online shops verify your age here when you buy adult only stuff.

I am not mad at Steam, I am just tired of people thinking Steam has some kind of agenda here, the censorship steam pushes for is needed to obey laws for selling games without proper age verification and only having that could ever actually lead to a *free* store. As it is Steam competes with piracy and every censored game drives thousands of people to the illegal alternatives (if only to get an decensor patch).

That said, verifying age is very easy in Germany.... passport shows your age ;p And you don't even *have* a (real) passport unless you are 18. So the solution here is a physical location (Deutsche Post related) where you register once, and where steam can ask "does this dude have the age to access this?" and done. Could be done 100% anonymous. Now that is a German only solution, but when there isn't a global alternative then Steam simply has to use the national services.... it would not make them into the NSA of GAMES That said, Steam likely knows more about you than the NSA.
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