jdreyer wrote on Jan 16, 2015, 21:53:
xXBatmanXx wrote on Jan 16, 2015, 17:58:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 16, 2015, 17:27:
LittleMe wrote on Jan 16, 2015, 14:13:
You are all a bunch of socialist control freaks. The nazi swat teams shouldn't exist in the first place. 30 day sentence is plenty for someone to think about what they've done, especially after the whole trial fiasco. Maybe a repeat offender increase the sentence to six months in the worst case. Yes if someone is shot or killed then that might be grounds for holding the caller partially responsible but the swat teams take a lot of that responsibility for their own behavior too.
edit: this is a case where the feds make especially cruel and unusual punishments for people interfering with them. All that does is escalate things further over time (blowback).
We're not pro-SWAT, we're anti-SWATting. The militarization of police forces is a different issue entirely. I agree that they shouldn't exist, and a whole raft of "crimes" should be misdemeanors, not felonies as they currently are. This whole "war" on drugs bullshit has to stop, as do no-knock raids and server warrants with SWAT teams, and surplus military equipment needs to stop going to police departments.
I agree with everything you said, as long as the bad guys don't have rifles. But, they do. So we are going to use everything we can get our hands on. Cause family.
I don't think you and I are very far apart. I think the police should have access to rifles. It's not the primary weapon you carry on your person, but there are rare times where it might be needed. What I oppose:
- Military equipment like APCs and sniper rifles going to regular police departments. It gets misused, and precludes other avenues of conflict resolution. Limit it to SWAT teams that have the training.
- Essentially end no-knock warrants. They've increased from 3000 a year in the '80s to 80,000 a year today. They're extremely dangerous to both police and civilian, and are unnecessary in the vast majority of cases.
- Use SWAT teams when all other avenues have been exhausted. It seems they're often the first choice these days, not the last.
- Essentially end the war on drugs. Make possession and even intent to sell misdemeanors. Undercut drug dealers by making drugs available to addicts for a cheap prescription price if they agree to attend counseling. It's a small price to pay to get clean drugs at a 95% discount, and it will greatly reduce all the crime associated with drug acquisition: theft, robbery, prostitution, etc.
We will take it offline sometime....i am exhausted and can't even string thoughts together....I think we would have a good chat....