Respawn on Titanfall on Origin vs. Steam

There's an interview on GameInformer.com talking with Vince Zampella about Titanfall, Respawn's "mystery project," and more. They frame one question around their theory that the PC edition of the multiplayer mech shooter suffered from being on Origin rather than Steam. His response doesn't disagree, as he says: "At some point you look at it and you say is it even worth now this much later the effort to put it on Steam, when it would be a lot of work and kind of bifurcate the community? We would have loved for it to be on Steam from day one, but at some point it just doesn't make sense anymore and you start looking to the future and I think we should not make that same decision again."
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Dec 22, 2014, 02:24
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Re: Respawn on Titanfall on Origin vs. Steam Dec 22, 2014, 02:24
Dec 22, 2014, 02:24
 
That's too bad. They gave away Battlefield 3 for free and all you had to do was sign up.
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Dec 21, 2014, 15:11
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Never touching Origin so yea, thanks for easy choice here Vince.
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Dec 21, 2014, 12:53
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gsilver wrote on Dec 20, 2014, 00:36:
...Though the 50GB install did. I was running a 240GB SSD in my PC for much of the year, and a 50GB game needed to be pretty damn good to make the cut there. But once I upgraded, I still didn't really feel like going back.
In addition to my SSD, I have a 4tb steam games drive for all the other games
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Dec 21, 2014, 10:28
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DangerDog wrote on Dec 19, 2014, 20:53:
no dedicated servers.
This, along with unnecessary artificial "progression" are the two main things that make me give nearly all new FPS's a pass. Character/account progression has no legitimate place in competitive PvP games, and hinders them far more than it 'helps'. And lack of dedicated servers is just a recipe for frustration and irritation. No, I don't want some stupid matchmaker algorithm deciding where I play and who I play against.

These things far more than the game being only on Origin were why I never gave Titanfall a second glance.
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Dec 21, 2014, 05:18
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Re: Respawn on Titanfall on Origin vs. Steam Dec 21, 2014, 05:18
Dec 21, 2014, 05:18
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but the only reason I ever used Origin was because the final game, in a trilogy I had become invested in, was exclusive to Origin.

After I finished ME3 and all DLC content, I only played for the multiplayer aspect. When I grew tired of that, I uninstalled the game and Origin. I currently have no plans to buy anything exclusive to EA's service again, unless they buy up another developer that is making titles that I like.

The funny thing is that I really don't care about Origin that much, but I refuse to go out of my way to help EA set up a service to compete with Steam. Everything EA touches turns to shit at some point, this is irrefutable based on their prior evidence of destroying games they have control over.
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Dec 20, 2014, 16:12
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NewMaxx wrote on Dec 20, 2014, 14:32:
Sepharo wrote on Dec 19, 2014, 22:35:
Should've skipped the publisher, gone free to play with a market around items and events, and continually released new content both minor and major.

You're not at all wrong, but sadly game development has entered the "movie prestige" phase in so many ways. Movies are risky and financially expensive but ultimately people want to be tied to these massive ideas, and triple-A games are no different. To give something like that away for free is...well, the anti-thesis of what it stands for, considering that the PC market for it is extremely small anyway. I'm not saying it's right, I just know the realities of the industry and suggesting something sane like you just did would get laughed out of the room by Moneybags McGee.

Well Moneybags McGee would probably be interested to know how much money Valve is making on CS:GO. I know I've contributed /
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Dec 20, 2014, 14:32
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Sepharo wrote on Dec 19, 2014, 22:35:
Should've skipped the publisher, gone free to play with a market around items and events, and continually released new content both minor and major.

You're not at all wrong, but sadly game development has entered the "movie prestige" phase in so many ways. Movies are risky and financially expensive but ultimately people want to be tied to these massive ideas, and triple-A games are no different. To give something like that away for free is...well, the anti-thesis of what it stands for, considering that the PC market for it is extremely small anyway. I'm not saying it's right, I just know the realities of the industry and suggesting something sane like you just did would get laughed out of the room by Moneybags McGee.
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Dec 20, 2014, 13:50
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Dec 20, 2014, 13:50
 
And here I thought the reason people stopped playing the game was because despite the hype, the game ultimately boiled down to 'same shit, different setting'.
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Dec 20, 2014, 13:42
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Sepharo wrote on Dec 19, 2014, 22:35:
The roll out and support of this game was out of step with the modern multiplayer game.

Should've skipped the publisher, gone free to play with a market around items and events, and continually released new content both minor and major. Basically it should have been CS:GO in all regards but gameplay.

The small amount of players surrounded by AI bots didn't bother me and the map design around this player count was excellent... but part of these hypothetical ongoing updates should have increased the player count with releases of new maps.

I disagree, I don't think he is nearly as talented as he believes. A good deal of luck and marketing was involved with making Call of Duty the juggernaut it became. He needs that marketing push behind his games. I don't think he could be successful as an indie developer.

Titanfall just kind of released, was trendy for a bit, then fell out of favor. People don't really care about it anymore. The kind of games he makes are perfect for a megapublisher who is more concerned with initial sales than long term survival of the game.

He's probably going to spend the rest of his career trying to catch lightning in a bottle again.
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Dec 20, 2014, 13:15
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Dec 20, 2014, 12:45
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I'd probably play a little of this every day if it had a single-player mode against bots or something. I like the game quite a bit, but I'm just not fond of Multiplayer-vs. shooters at all anymore.
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Darks wrote on Dec 19, 2014, 20:32:
Vince is full of shit, I'm betting right now, if he had to do it all over again, this game would still not be on steam.

This is whats called talking out of your ass.

I would also argue that what killed this game was MP only. not Campaign.
A crappy campaign doesn't hut BF. No campaign doesn't hurt UT. But they definitely would have had more sales if tbey had an offline mode with bots and modding.
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Dec 20, 2014, 12:41
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I don't think the game failed because it wasn't on Steam. If it's a good enough game, most gamers will buy it anywhere.
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Dec 20, 2014, 12:19
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Jivaro wrote on Dec 20, 2014, 11:13:
PC gamers talk tough but ultimately they cave if a game is good enough.

As s1mon said, there are already more games on steam than time to play them all. Cutting out uplay or origin is easy.
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Dec 20, 2014, 12:09
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Dec 20, 2014, 12:09
 
When you have to disable game-modes less than a month after launch because they were splitting the playerbase to the point where wait times for matches were unbearable... You've got major issues. They carried that match-making shit over from MW2+ Call of Duty because they "pioneered" it, but they forgot to consider that it only worked (mostly) there because of the sheer volume of people playing... You can't make assumptions like that for a brand new IP.
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Dec 20, 2014, 11:39
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Dec 20, 2014, 11:39
 
the worst part of Titanfall as the fucking playlists and lobbies, leave that shit o xbox.

I would seriously spend more time in lobbies than I would in game.
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This game didn't sell anywhere near what the publisher expected on any platform. I think that speaks to the game's failings more than any one thing you can list on the PC platform specifically. I really don't think it had anything to do with Origin. Had it been a good game, generally speaking, people would have bought it regardless of Origin. PC gamers talk tough but ultimately they cave if a game is good enough. This was a new IP which means it had to really impress out of the gate and it just didn't. I agree with other folks that have pointed out the lack of single player as a major killer. On the PC specifically the game would have benefited from many of the things that other people have mentioned but the game failed as whole because it just wasn't that great of a game. Not at launch anyway. If some folks were able to enjoy it, good for them....but this fell well below everybody's expectations from a sales point of view.
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Dec 20, 2014, 10:17
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bing on origin didn't kill this game, the fact that no one bought/played it on pc after the first 2 weeks killed the game. any pc game that still uses console lobbies rarely does well. the new CoD is the same story, however a lot worse.

they just need a server browser for pc, and they'd be fine. if for some reason being on origin was holding that back, while being on steam would have enabled a server browser, then i'd agree with this. however i think that's highly unlikely.

i think that the underbelly of this story is that it just plain didn't sell well on PC at all. hence why they're blaming it on not being sold at wal-mart.
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Dec 20, 2014, 09:11
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Dec 20, 2014, 09:11
 
Just like Uplay, Origin is only a proprietary install -- used because it *has* to be used to install the manufacturer's game, nothing more.

Why anyone would think Uplay or Origin are viable as a social, marketing, or otherwise "platform" is naive at best. No one would install them if they didn't have to, some are heartily opposed to it and won't purchase the game if its required.

Steam got there first, got it right, and long ago. Until Steam becomes a greedy monopoly or screws up somewhere bigtime, no one will look elsewhere. As it should be.
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Dec 20, 2014, 09:07
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CJ_Parker wrote on Dec 19, 2014, 21:22:
Dude.

Education.

Get one before it's too late!

It's not on Steam...
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