Sullied Areal Returns as STALKER Apocalypse

West Games is back at trying to raise funds for their own spiritual successor to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series (thanks PC Gamer). Their first go at this with a game called Areal went poorly, as questions about the legitimacy of the project led to it being suspended by Kickstarter, as claims that a AAA game could be developed for $50,000 were met with widespread skepticism. They have now launched a new crowdfunding campaign on World Wide Funder seeking $600,000, for a project called STALKER Apocalypse. That sounds like it might be infringing on the acronym title from the "S.T.A.L.K.E.R." series, but they don't see it that way, saying: "We have registered a trademark for Stalker Apocalypse, and have every right to use it as our title. Stalker by itself is a common word, and anyone can use it."
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Dec 13, 2014, 01:43
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Re: Sullied Areal Returns as STALKER Apocalypse Dec 13, 2014, 01:43
Dec 13, 2014, 01:43
 
I really hope whoever owns the STALKER series sues the pants off of them this time. I mean they're calling the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and using gameplay from Call of Pripyat. What more do they need to see before suing these clowns?

That being said whoever owns the rights to STALKER should make another single player game.
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Dec 13, 2014, 01:22
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Dec 13, 2014, 01:22
 
Wow, talk about flagrant. Now they're trying even harder to mislead people into thinking this is a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game.
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Dec 12, 2014, 22:25
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Dec 12, 2014, 22:25
 nin
 
Rhialto wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 18:59:
Article on Forbes by Erik Kain who also covered Areal

Excellent recap. I reported the fuck out of them to KS, when they were spamming the comments. I think at one time I had like 6 different tickets open.

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Dec 12, 2014, 18:59
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Dec 12, 2014, 18:59
 
Article on Forbes by Erik Kain who also covered Areal
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Dec 12, 2014, 18:44
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Julio wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 18:34:
Looks like they are partway there already! I assume World Wide Funder doesn't have any investor protection like Kickstarter does.

None. Quite surprising, seeing as how they made this portal themselves for the sole purpose of trying to scam some more people out of money.
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Dec 12, 2014, 18:43
 
Task wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 17:38:
One might have better luck just giving money directly to the People's Front or Svoboda

Yes, but are you the People's Front of Svoboda, or the Svoboda People's Front?
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Dec 12, 2014, 18:34
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Dec 12, 2014, 18:34
 
Looks like they are partway there already! I assume World Wide Funder doesn't have any investor protection like Kickstarter does.
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wtf_man wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 15:56:
Putin gave me an assload of cash, and I'm donating every dime to these "clearly professional developers" that are going to make an awesome STALKER game!

Putin investing in an internet gamer to use the cash to invest in a originally, Kiev-based game development group. lulz, i can see the headlines now. I can't even find West Games wiki page anymore, its deleted.

One might have better luck just giving money directly to the People's Front or Svoboda and receive an SS-Seig Heil bumper sticker for your support.

Anywho, as far as this Areal and Stalker nonsense goes, 4A Games is the only legit developer to have been born of the ashes of STALKER.
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Dec 12, 2014, 15:56
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Dec 12, 2014, 15:56
 
Putin gave me an assload of cash, and I'm donating every dime to these "clearly professional developers" that are going to make an awesome STALKER game!
Get your games from GOG DAMMIT!
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Dec 12, 2014, 13:16
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Re: Sullied Areal Returns as STALKER Apocalypse Dec 12, 2014, 13:16
Dec 12, 2014, 13:16
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SCAMMER Scampocalypse.
"Well, he’s not a villain Summer, but he shouldn’t be your hero. He’s more like a demon, or a super fucked up god." - Morty Smith
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Dec 12, 2014, 13:11
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Re: Sullied Areal Returns as STALKER Apocalypse Dec 12, 2014, 13:11
Dec 12, 2014, 13:11
 
From the PC gamer article - Gamer Law on the trademark

Wonder if they pursue legal action...

nin wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 12:20:
ASeven wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 11:36:
Wow these guys really, really are trying hard to scam everyone. Hopefully not a cent is given to them.

Also, apparently, that World Wide Funder site was created by them.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142985623&postcount=720

Talk about scam.

I like this one: https://wfunder.com/project/92


He is also an inspiring hip hop star as well, who needs $500 for his big break, how could you go wrong?

https://wfunder.com/project/91

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Dec 12, 2014, 13:05
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Dec 12, 2014, 13:05
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Hahaha wow with such favorable terms people would be crazy not to fund this masterpiece in the making!
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Dec 12, 2014, 12:41
nin
 
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Dec 12, 2014, 12:41
 nin
 
What if I don't reach my funding goal?

Don't worry, it's not the end of the world! You still get to keep whatever funds that you raise, which is in stark contrast to other crowd-funding platforms. On WFUNDER, project creators get to keep whatever funds that they raise.

If you feel that you cannot complete your project with the funds that you raised, then you can cancel your project and all funds will be returned to your funders. You can only cancel a project before its funding duration ends.


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Dec 12, 2014, 12:27
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nin wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 12:20:
I like this one: https://wfunder.com/project/92

Seems legit.

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Dec 12, 2014, 12:20
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 nin
 
ASeven wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 11:36:
Wow these guys really, really are trying hard to scam everyone. Hopefully not a cent is given to them.

Also, apparently, that World Wide Funder site was created by them.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142985623&postcount=720

Talk about scam.

I like this one: https://wfunder.com/project/92

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Dec 12, 2014, 11:36
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Dec 12, 2014, 11:36
 
Wow these guys really, really are trying hard to scam everyone. Hopefully not a cent is given to them.

Also, apparently, that World Wide Funder site was created by them.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142985623&postcount=720

Talk about scam.
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Dec 12, 2014, 11:27
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Dec 12, 2014, 11:27
 
"We have registered a trademark for Stalker Apocalypse, and have every right to use it as our title. Stalker by itself is a common word, and anyone can use it."

Sure. You can use it however you want. Make a Stalker car with it. A Stalker phone. A Stalker blow-up doll. It's all good.

You can't, however, make a game with it that looks exactly like the other S.T.A.L.K.E.R game, because then you're infringing the registered trademark. It's the same with someone being perfectly allowed to open a McDonald's tool store, but not a McDonald's fast food joint.

If you fuckers at West Games weren't absolutely determined to steal other people's work and make money off of it yourself, you'd stop pretending not to know this. But then, what should we expect from a miserable bunch of slimy shitbags?

In any case, enjoy not getting funded again.
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Dec 12, 2014, 10:53
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nin wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 09:29:
Hey, those assholes are back! (Fuck them!)


My sentiments exactly, I wouldn't give these shit-heals two nicks to rub together.

There is absolutely no trust in these ass-hats anymore.
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Dec 12, 2014, 10:51
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They are pathetic... they don't know at all how to do business, specifically Eugene Kim who should stop showing his face. If they were a tad bright they would worked to get an entirly new crew for presenting the project and don't show any material related to Areal. Anyway, shame on these guys.

BTW, West Games in Vegas is no more. They quickly registered the name for a short period, in fact just long enough to grab all the money with Areal then disappear.
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Dec 12, 2014, 09:41
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Dec 12, 2014, 09:41
 
They definitely outsource the nicer pieces of concept art, because what they show off that's done by the actual team - like a weapon render that looks more dated than guns from CS 1.6 - are all pretty bad.

They're essentially showing nothing and expecting everything
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