Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 22:44:

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 22:37:
Most likely the download will be finished by tomorrow and I'll post an update then.

10-4.

As expected, missing executable... oh well

rocketpcguy wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 23:44:
is AMD graphic cards still a problem in linux? no issues with nvidia in mint, but wondering if i'm stuck to nvidia.

No idea, I have an NVidia card

is AMD graphic cards still a problem in linux? no issues with nvidia in mint, but wondering if i'm stuck to nvidia.

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 22:37:
Most likely the download will be finished by tomorrow and I'll post an update then.

10-4.

Most likely the download will be finished by tomorrow and I'll post an update then.

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 21:26:

Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 21:19:

Kitkoan wrote:
No caps, but no stability a lot of the time, I can jump from 800K to 5K and stay on both ends for a while. I've complained but I don't pay for the internet (my roommate does) and they complained to the ISP but the ISP declared its our house and that it must be things in the wall blocking the signal (we were able to show the repair guy the same fluctuations in signal from the laptop being three feet in front of the router, nothing beside the router.

The real issue is that the Wifi router is cheap trash but the ISP (and roommate) forbid any router but their own

Ugh(l(y/ee)). Which ISP is this? Do you still have that problem with a network cable?

I think it's Eastlink. I'm in a medium sized town and a while ago they made these big promos to attract customers, which worked. And bottlenecked the lines, but since we aren't a huge major city, they don't care to upgrade. And not much competition means less reasons to care.

Network cable fixes it, the PS4 connected to it doesn't have these issues (can't get access to it). And Chromecast doesn't work well either, when plugged into the TV that sits beside the router.

Its one of those reasons I stopped online gaming. I've gotten used to the set it and forget it downloading on Steam because of these issues. Not much else I can do. But its times like this that it becomes a major issue.

Been there, done that. Another reason for competitions. I only have one/1 affordable broadband option where I live: Cable. I cannot get DSL, FIOS, etc.

Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 21:19:

Kitkoan wrote:
No caps, but no stability a lot of the time, I can jump from 800K to 5K and stay on both ends for a while. I've complained but I don't pay for the internet (my roommate does) and they complained to the ISP but the ISP declared its our house and that it must be things in the wall blocking the signal (we were able to show the repair guy the same fluctuations in signal from the laptop being three feet in front of the router, nothing beside the router.

The real issue is that the Wifi router is cheap trash but the ISP (and roommate) forbid any router but their own

Ugh(l(y/ee)). Which ISP is this? Do you still have that problem with a network cable?

I think it's Eastlink. I'm in a medium sized town and a while ago they made these big promos to attract customers, which worked. And bottlenecked the lines, but since we aren't a huge major city, they don't care to upgrade. And not much competition means less reasons to care.

Network cable fixes it, the PS4 connected to it doesn't have these issues (can't get access to it). And Chromecast doesn't work well either, when plugged into the TV that sits beside the router.

Its one of those reasons I stopped online gaming. I've gotten used to the set it and forget it downloading on Steam because of these issues. Not much else I can do. But its times like this that it becomes a major issue.

Kitkoan wrote:
No caps, but no stability a lot of the time, I can jump from 800K to 5K and stay on both ends for a while. I've complained but I don't pay for the internet (my roommate does) and they complained to the ISP but the ISP declared its our house and that it must be things in the wall blocking the signal (we were able to show the repair guy the same fluctuations in signal from the laptop being three feet in front of the router, nothing beside the router.

The real issue is that the Wifi router is cheap trash but the ISP (and roommate) forbid any router but their own

Ugh(l(y/ee)). Which ISP is this? Do you still have that problem with a network cable?

Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 20:38:

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 20:32:

Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 18:54:

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 17:08:
Well, I have Bioshock Infinite and run Linux, and am now currently installing Bioshock Infinite for Linux.

Now to see if there is an executable file... (I'll tell you after all 17 gigs are downloaded...)

*edit* Misread it, it's 14.8 gigs..

"And then?"

And then I remember just how much my internet speeds sucked...

"And then?" Also, how bad? No caps I hope!

No caps, but no stability a lot of the time, I can jump from 800K to 5K and stay on both ends for a while. I've complained but I don't pay for the internet (my roommate does) and they complained to the ISP but the ISP declared its our house and that it must be things in the wall blocking the signal (we were able to show the repair guy the same fluctuations in signal from the laptop being three feet in front of the router, nothing beside the router.

The real issue is that the Wifi router is cheap trash but the ISP (and roommate) forbid any router but their own

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 20:32:

Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 18:54:

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 17:08:
Well, I have Bioshock Infinite and run Linux, and am now currently installing Bioshock Infinite for Linux.

Now to see if there is an executable file... (I'll tell you after all 17 gigs are downloaded...)

*edit* Misread it, it's 14.8 gigs..

"And then?"

And then I remember just how much my internet speeds sucked...

"And then?" Also, how bad? No caps I hope!

Ant wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 18:54:

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 17:08:
Well, I have Bioshock Infinite and run Linux, and am now currently installing Bioshock Infinite for Linux.

Now to see if there is an executable file... (I'll tell you after all 17 gigs are downloaded...)

*edit* Misread it, it's 14.8 gigs..

"And then?"

And then I remember just how much my internet speeds sucked...

Kitkoan wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 17:08:
Well, I have Bioshock Infinite and run Linux, and am now currently installing Bioshock Infinite for Linux.

Now to see if there is an executable file... (I'll tell you after all 17 gigs are downloaded...)

*edit* Misread it, it's 14.8 gigs..

"And then?"

Well, I have Bioshock Infinite and run Linux, and am now currently installing Bioshock Infinite for Linux.

Now to see if there is an executable file... (I'll tell you after all 17 gigs are downloaded...)

*edit* Misread it, it's 14.8 gigs..

Kristian Joensen wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 16:22:
See Aspyr_Blair's comment quoted here.

Thanks, very interesting.

Sho wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 15:59:

Clever Caviar wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 15:53:
Just remember, if you are a penguin powered gamer, and you want your money to go to the Linux devs, you need to buy it when the Linux version is out (assuming you don't have it already). You might be able to buy it now, not install it at all, and then fire it up when the Linux version ships, but I'm not 100% on that.

What's the basis for that? Do you have any hard knowledge that the porting houses sign contracts that scale their pay with number of licenses sold for the platform? I find that unlikely.

See Aspyr_Blair's comment quoted here.

Sho wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 15:59:

Clever Caviar wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 15:53:
Just remember, if you are a penguin powered gamer, and you want your money to go to the Linux devs, you need to buy it when the Linux version is out (assuming you don't have it already). You might be able to buy it now, not install it at all, and then fire it up when the Linux version ships, but I'm not 100% on that.

What's the basis for that? Do you have any hard knowledge that the porting houses sign contracts that scale their pay with number of licenses sold for the platform? I find that unlikely.

True, Aspyr could just be working to a flat fee, port it, and then job done. tbh, I'd find that unlikely, as that would be a fairly limited rev stream for a company like Aspyr, or Feral.
However, if it's a case of Aspyr get a cut of each Linux or Mac edition sold, how I've read it works (I think it was either Feral, or Aspyr explaining how it works*), the alt platform dev gets paid based on the number of activations. So, worst case scenario: all Linux gamers buy the game, fire it up on their Windows box, and then eventually play it on their Linux boxes.

*http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1644567 but I think I read similar, elsewhere. That's also from 2010, and the whole process is kinda opaque, so it may have changed since then.

Clever Caviar wrote on Dec 7, 2014, 15:53:
Just remember, if you are a penguin powered gamer, and you want your money to go to the Linux devs, you need to buy it when the Linux version is out (assuming you don't have it already). You might be able to buy it now, not install it at all, and then fire it up when the Linux version ships, but I'm not 100% on that.

What's the basis for that? Do you have any hard knowledge that the porting houses sign contracts that scale their pay with number of licenses sold for the platform? I find that unlikely.

Just remember, if you are a penguin powered gamer, and you want your money to go to the Linux devs, you need to buy it when the Linux version is out (assuming you don't have it already). You might be able to buy it now, not install it at all, and then fire it up when the Linux version ships, but I'm not 100% on that. (see Kristian Joensen's link further down. Linux gaming friends don't let Linux gaming friends buy games before they have a Linux port!)

This comment was edited on Dec 7, 2014, 16:28.

Always nice to see more AAA titles for Linux, even though I thought Infinite was a major disappointment.

What I'm wondering is what's taking Metro Redux so long. They heavily advertised Linux support, and I was really looking forward to finally getting started on the series (it's the first time they brought the first game over to the platform). I bought it at launch and now there's been no news since August.

Gamingonlinux.com has a 2K tweet confirming it.