nin wrote on Nov 21, 2014, 08:40:

.Drifter wrote on Nov 21, 2014, 01:59:

Cutter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:59:

.Drifter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:13:

Endo wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 22:50:
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

Yes it does.

Nah.
Besides, if it did mean it, then alcohol is bad, any meat that isn't well done is bad, any car faster than mine is bad, and anyone who doesn't agree with me is bad.

Now you're getting to the heart of the naysayer...

Lol!

Wetworks24 wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 16:37:

HorrorScope wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 11:40:
What is the opposite of ADHD?

Whatever that is, some of these wow players have it. To have the ability to play that game for so long almost exclusively is a trait I do not have. I know a couple.

I'm finding a lot of SP games too long for their own good, repetitive mechanic syndrome drops in, the my ADHD starts buzzin and I'm looking for something else.

Imagine logging in every day and talking to the same 50 people in your guild. You get to know them, hang out and do fun stuff together. There's always new loot to work towards, new raids and events in the world

It's the social aspect that keep a lot of players playing. You don't want to miss raid days because you don't want to let your guild mates down.

Good point. Then I see how it can become bad habit if you feel that pressure, but most I assume it becomes their lifestyle.

.Drifter wrote on Nov 21, 2014, 01:59:

Cutter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:59:

.Drifter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:13:

Endo wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 22:50:
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

Yes it does.

Nah.
Besides, if it did mean it, then alcohol is bad, any meat that isn't well done is bad, any car faster than mine is bad, and anyone who doesn't agree with me is bad.

Now you're getting to the heart of the naysayer...

Cutter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:59:

.Drifter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:13:

Endo wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 22:50:
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

Yes it does.

Nah.
Besides, if it did mean it, then alcohol is bad, any meat that isn't well done is bad, any car faster than mine is bad, and anyone who doesn't agree with me is bad.

With ESO and AA such big flops is no wonder ...

HorrorScope wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 11:40:
What is the opposite of ADHD?

Whatever that is, some of these wow players have it. To have the ability to play that game for so long almost exclusively is a trait I do not have. I know a couple.

I'm finding a lot of SP games too long for their own good, repetitive mechanic syndrome drops in, the my ADHD starts buzzin and I'm looking for something else.

Imagine logging in every day and talking to the same 50 people in your guild. You get to know them, hang out and do fun stuff together. There's always new loot to work towards, new raids and events in the world

It's the social aspect that keep a lot of players playing. You don't want to miss raid days because you don't want to let your guild mates down.

Blizzard is really good at constantly reinventing themselves with this game. I won't go back since theres too many other games to play but I will always fondly remember my time with it and respect them for what they did with this.

They say they sold 3.3 million in the first 24 hours that the expac was live. Most of the current subs pre-bought WoD so it makes sense that they have gained subs since the last sub announcement and the sell through put them over 10m. A lot of people have resubbed to the game prior to the expac (most for patch 6.0 which came out in October).

McTurbo wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 11:15:

InBlack wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 08:46:

Jonjonz wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 08:17:
Marketing 101 - assignment: your company overbooked massively an event. 80% of the paying customers could not get in for three days, until a quarter to a third of them gave up, at which time the rest could then access the content. Spin this to make your company look good.

WOW is still the best MMO ever, but, this roll out was a fiasco, and now that it is over, players have started to enjoy the new content that by all reports is excellent. Next roll out I am blocking out a week to play something else until the dust settles.

You just described every single Blizzard product launch since the original WoW came out. They always 'promise' to get the infrastructure up in place and are always 'surprised' that they so underestimated the demand. BS on an unprecedented scale, considering the billions of dollars involved funny that they keep getting away with it. Gamers are quite the whipping boy and publishers know this only too well...

Pandaria actually didn't have a bad launch at all.. and Ive been at all of em.. it had hiccups.. but not the kind that this one did.. this was basically a recreation of the BC launch

I thought it was common knowledge now that MMO companies don't spend money on Hardware to handle launch loads. Why spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on hardware you'll only really need for the first few weeks? After that the extra hardware would be wasted.

Much cheaper to spin the bad PR and give players free time to make up for it.

Actually, I'm not sure how true this is with virtualization nowadays. No reason Blizzard couldn't of bought some heavy duty EC2 servers from Amazon to handle the heavy load and then spun them down after it was over.

Probably still cheaper to just give players free time to make up for congested launches.

What is the opposite of ADHD?

Whatever that is, some of these wow players have it. To have the ability to play that game for so long almost exclusively is a trait I do not have. I know a couple.

I'm finding a lot of SP games too long for their own good, repetitive mechanic syndrome drops in, the my ADHD starts buzzin and I'm looking for something else.

InBlack wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 08:46:

Jonjonz wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 08:17:
Marketing 101 - assignment: your company overbooked massively an event. 80% of the paying customers could not get in for three days, until a quarter to a third of them gave up, at which time the rest could then access the content. Spin this to make your company look good.

WOW is still the best MMO ever, but, this roll out was a fiasco, and now that it is over, players have started to enjoy the new content that by all reports is excellent. Next roll out I am blocking out a week to play something else until the dust settles.

You just described every single Blizzard product launch since the original WoW came out. They always 'promise' to get the infrastructure up in place and are always 'surprised' that they so underestimated the demand. BS on an unprecedented scale, considering the billions of dollars involved funny that they keep getting away with it. Gamers are quite the whipping boy and publishers know this only too well...

Pandaria actually didn't have a bad launch at all.. and Ive been at all of em.. it had hiccups.. but not the kind that this one did.. this was basically a recreation of the BC launch

WoW is like a drug for me, that's why I stay away from it.

The server congestion they had with that expansion doesn't surprise me. It seems hardcore WoW'ers are starved for content. I imagine the old places will be ghost towns as others go to the expansion realm.

Jonjonz wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 08:17:
Marketing 101 - assignment: your company overbooked massively an event. 80% of the paying customers could not get in for three days, until a quarter to a third of them gave up, at which time the rest could then access the content. Spin this to make your company look good.

WOW is still the best MMO ever, but, this roll out was a fiasco, and now that it is over, players have started to enjoy the new content that by all reports is excellent. Next roll out I am blocking out a week to play something else until the dust settles.

You just described every single Blizzard product launch since the original WoW came out. They always 'promise' to get the infrastructure up in place and are always 'surprised' that they so underestimated the demand. BS on an unprecedented scale, considering the billions of dollars involved funny that they keep getting away with it. Gamers are quite the whipping boy and publishers know this only too well...

Marketing 101 - assignment: your company overbooked massively an event. 80% of the paying customers could not get in for three days, until a quarter to a third of them gave up, at which time the rest could then access the content. Spin this to make your company look good.

WOW is still the best MMO ever, but, this roll out was a fiasco, and now that it is over, players have started to enjoy the new content that by all reports is excellent. Next roll out I am blocking out a week to play something else until the dust settles.

This comment was edited on Nov 20, 2014, 08:24.

Arrrrrghhh!!! I said I would never go back to WoW since vanilla, but this one might be the one that finally drags my a$$ back into the game. My wife sure as hell won't appreciate it despite us not even knowing each other when I was in vanilla WoW. In fact, she has no idea what a game like this could potentially cause, lol.

I think if I get back into it, I can have enjoyment on my time that I'm a lone but will it be enough to get me by or will the addictiveness overcome me and cause issues when I'm suppose to be spending "quality" time with her, lol.

Games like these CAN ruin homes! lol

So disclosure, I love vanilla (despite being a early mmo player and knowing it was doing nothing new; but doing almost everything better)

I hated TBC, Wrath, liked Cata (i am in the minority i guess), and didn't like panda-land.

All my old guildies and other gaming mates that have played down the years no matter what their expansion preference was are telling me this is the best expansion yet and i need to get my arse back in to game, given blizzard are handing out a free lvl 90, ill prolly i give it a go...

really if people are saying this 5 expansions down the line its a good achievement -wow might not be for everyone but even the most loyal players tend to get cynical this late in to a games life.

So really despite me not yet buying it (i prolly will on pay day), they have to be commended cause the community that plays the game is really enjoying it (server stability aside, and you cant do much about getting dossed constantly).

.Drifter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:13:

Endo wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 22:50:
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

Yes it does.

.Drifter wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:13:

Endo wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 22:50:
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

You mean like Kanye West?v (Or Justin Bieber?)

This comment was edited on Nov 20, 2014, 08:48.

It still won't get me back.