Quinn wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 03:57:
It's not the first time that you reply to someone while it seems you haven't even read the person's entire post. For example, I only know it's a glorified expansion BECAUSE I TRIED IT! I truly hope you can now see what an idiot response "if you know it's a glorified expansion why pirate it?" was.

Ironic considering you didn't even read my post. You don't get to pirate something just because you don't like the product or company in question. I don't care if Ubisoft shipped a giant GIF of a turd, its not your fucking game. You don't get to say it has no value, it has value and that's why you're pirating it. Stop trying to make excuses to justify your fucking childish behavior, no buyers here. At least be a fucking adult enough to own your actions. Are you a man or a child? You pirated it and it's not ok. There is no excuse to make it ok. A man can admit he was selfish enough to take something for himself. A child makes excuses and tries to justify it. I've pirated shit in my life, so has everyone else here, no one cares just shut up about it. People wouldn't even care if you just didn't open your big mouth and blurt it out as if its something to be proud of. You got your <snort> 'free demo', that should be enough.

Again since it didn't sink in the first time:

If the company wants to give you a demo, they will provide one. 'its a glorified expansion!' so why would you fucking pirate it then if its so worthless. Have an iota of fucking willpower and ignore their game if they don't do things like give you a demo, let reviewers talk about the game and take care of their products. It's like an even more pathetic version of a drug addict, constantly bitching about his dealer but always looking for the next hit.

This comment was edited on Nov 20, 2014, 07:25.

Orogogus wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 03:03:

InBlack wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:44:
This is probably true for the new generation of consoles (since they are brand new and there is little content for them so far) but there is no firm data on this one way or the other. I think when you compare Xbox360 and the PS3 (as one category) to the PC the numbers would be about even.

I don't think it's even close. If you go to Pirate Bay or kickass.to or wherever and look at the number of torrents, seeders and leechers you can at least get an idea. Put in "Far Cry 4", sort by seeds; the entire first page is PC torrents. The top torrent has about 5500 seeds while the first 360 torrent has 101 and the first PS3 torrent has 57, keeping in mind that there are many more PC torrents than 360 and PS3 combined. Eyeballing it, it looks like about 20,000:200 (360+PS3) seeds.

Of course the actual numbers aren't going to be exactly that proportion, but unless you're in a complete state of denial you can at least see which way the wind's blowing. You'd have to stretch pretty far to try to claim the real ratio is 1:1.

Dude. Are you serious? You cant take ONE game and a fairly recent one at that as proof of anything. Go to the VERY SAME SITE and type in any number of console EXCLUSIVE games in the search box...

Redmask wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 07:23:

Quinn wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 06:17:
Thanks to pirating I didn't waste 45 dollars of HARD-SWEATY-HOURS-OF-GODDAMN-WORK earned money. It's not as black and white as most of you moralknights out here think it is, matter of fact. This game is getting 4,5s out of 5s; 9s out of 10s! The media is painting the picture that FC4 is the best fucking thing that has happened in a long time! If I didn't pirate this game for DEMO PUPROSES ONLY I wouldn't have known that FC4 is the exact same thing as FC3 with a few extra shit like elephants and flying scooters. And oh boy, I mean the exact same thing. It's a glorified expansion, yet you pay the full price for it.

I can't wait to see what the media gives The Witcher 3 when it comes out and it will be remotely as awesome as it seems to become. An 8 out of 5? A 23 out of a 10?

Yes. I pirated FC4, tried it for an hour, yawned and deleted it from my computer. No harm done to myself, which I find more important than the few dollars Ubisoft misses out on because I didn't buy the game under the false pretense that it would actually feel like a standalone game.

You're not entitled to a demo of every product just because you want one. If the company wants to give you a demo, they will provide one. 'its a glorified expansion!' so why would you fucking pirate it then if its so worthless. Have an iota of fucking willpower and ignore their game if they don't do things like give you a demo, let reviewers talk about the game and take care of their products. It's like an even more pathetic version of a drug addict, constantly bitching about his dealer but always looking for the next hit.

It's not the first time that you reply to someone while it seems you haven't even read the person's entire post. For example, I only know it's a glorified expansion BECAUSE I TRIED IT! I truly hope you can now see what an idiot response "if you know it's a glorified expansion why pirate it?" was.

HorrorScope wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 11:21:

But a pirate has no patience or money, so to be legit, if it sucks it proves piracy was right. But I get the same thing waiting a bit and reading up and not pirating at all. I think you are wrong for pirating and I think companies are wrong for taking too many precautions for pirating.

Correct. I'm not known for my patience, and while I certainly live a comfortable life... sadly it's not THAT comfortable that I can flush 45 dollars down the toilet and not give a shit. So truly -- truly truly truly! -- I really don't give a damn if you guys grow a frown by my pirating. If it was for the media, I would have wasted 45 dollars. Either that, or I would never have been sure and hadn't bought the game anyway.

Due to piracy I saw and felt first-hand that Ubisoft mostly just created a new map and called it FC4. Imagine we would all blindly buy it because, hey! the media says it's perfect! Next thing we gamers will see is an era of Assassin Creeds and Far Crys. No thank you, because I'm damn certain that it's not piracy that will kill gaming for me. That shit will.

This comment was edited on Nov 20, 2014, 04:08.

InBlack wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 02:44:
This is probably true for the new generation of consoles (since they are brand new and there is little content for them so far) but there is no firm data on this one way or the other. I think when you compare Xbox360 and the PS3 (as one category) to the PC the numbers would be about even.

I don't think it's even close. If you go to Pirate Bay or kickass.to or wherever and look at the number of torrents, seeders and leechers you can at least get an idea. Put in "Far Cry 4", sort by seeds; the entire first page is PC torrents. The top torrent has about 5500 seeds while the first 360 torrent has 101 and the first PS3 torrent has 57, keeping in mind that there are many more PC torrents than 360 and PS3 combined. Eyeballing it, it looks like about 20,000:200 (360+PS3) seeds.

Of course the actual numbers aren't going to be exactly that proportion, but unless you're in a complete state of denial you can at least see which way the wind's blowing. You'd have to stretch pretty far to try to claim the real ratio is 1:1.

Beamer wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 13:22:
Piracy is higher on PC games. Simple fact. It's unavoidable.

This is probably true for the new generation of consoles (since they are brand new and there is little content for them so far) but there is no firm data on this one way or the other. I think when you compare Xbox360 and the PS3 (as one category) to the PC the numbers would be about even.

nin wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 08:39:

xXBatmanXx wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 00:49:
11 posts, joined last week. Ignored.

How do they find us?

It's the same ones who get banned or realize no one is listening because they're on ignore.

Task wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 09:34:
Gonna have to -1 both your posts. Sharing is Caring, its what you are taught as a kid, no? Blackbeard's ghost sends his regards.

I think you're missing an important part of sharing; that is, giving what is yours to help others. Giving what is someone else's isn't remotely the same thing.

What an odd thread.

HorrorScope wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:14:

IAMLIT_REFLEX wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:05:
The reality is if you use ANYTHING but Firefox you are leaving the door to malicious scripts WIDE OPEN guys.

ONLY the use of NoScript! will give you GOOD protection from malicious scripting AND OTHER methods of attack.

There IS a NoScript! wanna-be for Chrome but I investigated it and concluded that I simply could not settle for such an inferior product.

I highly recommend that you all switch to the 64 bit version of the only optimized build of Firefox on Windows. It's called Pale Moon and it's all the work of ONE SINGLE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly you gotta be crazy to do anything else....

And please tell me you use ESET anti-virus instead of some shitty old free AV...

Spoiler: if you think it's safe to pirate binary data (games, applications and potentially e-books... anything that can be infected with malware IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) you're in for a rude awakening.....

That is my bottom line to. Firefox has the best addons and that for home use anyways makes all the difference. Not saying it is impossible, but I get zero virus/malware ever, getting zero malware ever imo is an impressive feat. I also credit win 7 some as well.

It is laughable what IE doesn't have for addon's.

As for speed, if FF is even considered slow, which I don't know that. It is plenty snappy for this user. I am not struggling with browser speed using Firefox and its variants.

All that said, using NoScript I have zero problem with. But man showing anyone else that isn't as techy, they hate having to remember to "OK a safe site" once. I tried, but they just won't do it and think Chrome vanilla is better because they don't have such blocks. But they refuse to put the whole picture together, that in time I have to go back and clean shit up on their slow system. Right, the world is a little better living in the now with zero protections, but it sure sucks when it all comes to a halt. Personally I couldn't ask for anything more than FF with it's addons for protection and UI modifications. And all this carries right on over into the mobile world, another win.

Try Firefox Developer Edition. It's replaced the standard version for me, and I've got all my extensions and their settings ported over, so it's just like I had it before. Same browser, just on steroids.

harlock wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:25:
YOU CANT FOOL ME, ILLUMINATI! INTERNET EXPLORER IS THE BEST!

I lol'ed.

My bottom line is if you don't want to put it on the PC, don't. That is your decision. There are others that will kindly come in and fill the need. If this is to say "see pc users suck", then just keep your games and go away.

Acleacius wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 13:01:
Read about this, as usual this is a publisher stunt to blame PC gamers as pirates. He specifically only mentioned the one thing, which could be associated with PC gamers, not the fact console versions were out almost 2 weeks before the PC(2 days before release).

If you guys are going to talk about this make sure you talk about the whole story, including consoles. If not, publishers will continue to get away with treating the PC gamers like crap and get away with it. I.e. justifying draconian drm, such as always on or not releasing PC versions of games.

It helps them spread the lie and demonize ALL PC gamers in the media. So all PC gamers who do buy PC games, get black eyes as well. Why do you think PC gamers have a bad reputation with the general population.

There isn't some conspiracy to damn you or ALL PC gamers. Stop with that bullshit. Please. Stop. Please. Stop.

Piracy is higher on PC games. Simple fact. It's unavoidable.

Read about this, as usual this is a publisher stunt to blame PC gamers as pirates. He specifically only mentioned the one thing, which could be associated with PC gamers, not the fact console versions were out almost 2 weeks before the PC(2 days before release).

If you guys are going to talk about this make sure you talk about the whole story, including consoles. If not, publishers will continue to get away with treating the PC gamers like crap and get away with it. I.e. justifying draconian drm, such as always on or not releasing PC versions of games.

It helps them spread the lie and demonize ALL PC gamers in the media. So all PC gamers who do buy PC games, get black eyes as well. Why do you think PC gamers have a bad reputation with the general population.

IAMLIT_REFLEX wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:05:
The reality is if you use ANYTHING but Firefox you are leaving the door to malicious scripts WIDE OPEN guys.

ONLY the use of NoScript! will give you GOOD protection from malicious scripting AND OTHER methods of attack.

There IS a NoScript! wanna-be for Chrome but I investigated it and concluded that I simply could not settle for such an inferior product.

I highly recommend that you all switch to the 64 bit version of the only optimized build of Firefox on Windows. It's called Pale Moon and it's all the work of ONE SINGLE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly you gotta be crazy to do anything else....

And please tell me you use ESET anti-virus instead of some shitty old free AV...

Spoiler: if you think it's safe to pirate binary data (games, applications and potentially e-books... anything that can be infected with malware IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) you're in for a rude awakening.....

YOU CANT FOOL ME, ILLUMINATI! INTERNET EXPLORER IS THE BEST!

I've only used Pale Moon limitedly. Liked it.

If you don't like Eset I hear Norton is, or was back when I did the research in 2008 or something, #2....

I use Ghostery and Adblock on Chrome. I also use Kaspersky switched from ESET. So far *knocking on wood I didn't have any problems, not even from those sketchy Brazilian fart porn fetish sites

IAMLIT_REFLEX wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:05:
The reality is if you use ANYTHING but Firefox you are leaving the door to malicious scripts WIDE OPEN guys.

ONLY the use of NoScript! will give you GOOD protection from malicious scripting AND OTHER methods of attack.

There IS a NoScript! wanna-be for Chrome but I investigated it and concluded that I simply could not settle for such an inferior product.

I highly recommend that you all switch to the 64 bit version of the only optimized build of Firefox on Windows. It's called Pale Moon and it's all the work of ONE SINGLE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly you gotta be crazy to do anything else....

And please tell me you use ESET anti-virus instead of some shitty old free AV...

Spoiler: if you think it's safe to pirate binary data (games, applications and potentially e-books... anything that can be infected with malware IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) you're in for a rude awakening.....

That is my bottom line to. Firefox has the best addons and that for home use anyways makes all the difference. Not saying it is impossible, but I get zero virus/malware ever, getting zero malware ever imo is an impressive feat. I also credit win 7 some as well.

It is laughable what IE doesn't have for addon's.

As for speed, if FF is even considered slow, which I don't know that. It is plenty snappy for this user. I am not struggling with browser speed using Firefox and its variants.

All that said, using NoScript I have zero problem with. But man showing anyone else that isn't as techy, they hate having to remember to "OK a safe site" once. I tried, but they just won't do it and think Chrome vanilla is better because they don't have such blocks. But they refuse to put the whole picture together, that in time I have to go back and clean shit up on their slow system. Right, the world is a little better living in the now with zero protections, but it sure sucks when it all comes to a halt. Personally I couldn't ask for anything more than FF with it's addons for protection and UI modifications. And all this carries right on over into the mobile world, another win.

This comment was edited on Nov 19, 2014, 12:33.

You simply do not know if Firefox is actually slower than Chrome until you have tested an optimized build, as one exists that I already told you about called Pale Moon and yes, it comes in a 64-bit flavor.

Also this "*whole buncha suspect bs*" is something I never said...

So glad to know that that witches exist on Blue's News as well as Facebook.

I just simply cannot get enough of humanity. Anyone want to take a trip to Poland and prove they are assholes of incomprehensible dickishness?

And in case there's still any questions about that issue I suggest you investigate into the No Child Left Behind Act and observe how ridiculously easy those tests that screwed over most kids were.

This comment was edited on Nov 19, 2014, 12:18.

IAMLIT_REFLEX wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:05:
*a whole buncha suspect bs*

EDIT: Your (limited) post history makes you sound very suspect

This comment was edited on Nov 19, 2014, 12:56.