Yeah, see ya when this game gets down to a sane price.

I think $60 is a sane price. These guys are clipping along pretty well I think final release is near.
Beta 2 will have a lot of stuff, I've just finished reading the newsletter link here if anyone interested.
The finished game will kick so much ass.

My only gripe is them selling paint jobs. Is that new, or had it been there before and I just missed it?

Other than that, it's all good...

SpectralMeat wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:44:
I think $60 is a sane price. These guys are clipping along pretty well I think final release is near.
Beta 2 will have a lot of stuff, I've just finished reading the newsletter link here if anyone interested.
The finished game will kick so much ass.

This thing is starting to look so damn good. I love playing it now, but with fully custom ships coming up (yes!) I can't wait to strip a Cobra down to it's frame... mmmmmmm possibilities.

No word on proper DK2 support yet? I was hoping they'd get it in for Beta 2...

nin wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:51:
My only gripe is them selling paint jobs. Is that new, or had it been there before and I just missed it?

Other than that, it's all good...

They've been selling those for a while now, and they are only cosmetics. I am sure they will have sales on packs of those or get them as rewards in game etc.
They don't bother me as much as the different ship variants for $100+ for that other space game

Parias wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:57:
No word on proper DK2 support yet? I was hoping they'd get it in for Beta 2...

Seconded. It's one of the best DK2 experiences, but desperately needs updating to the latest SDK.

SpectralMeat wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:02:
They don't bother me as much as the different ship variants for $100+ for that other space game

TRUE.

SpectralMeat wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:44:
I think $60 is a sane price. These guys are clipping along pretty well I think final release is near.
Beta 2 will have a lot of stuff, I've just finished reading the newsletter link here if anyone interested.
The finished game will kick so much ass.

For an early buy. Launch will be $72 CDN. That's way too much for any game, nevermind bare bones with the actual gameplay supposedly coming later on. I'd go $30, maybe even $40 with what I'm seeing and hearing, but double that? No way.

Cutter wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:30:
Yeah, see ya when this game gets down to a sane price.

Isn't this what gamers are always saying they want? A game tailored first and foremost to take advantage of their own platform? True expansions instead of DLCs? Broad control schemes instead of context buttons?

But now that someone does all that, in a genre long in need of a commercial revival, and charges an industry standard price, they're asking too much? Jesus, what do developers have to do to make you people happy?

Cutter wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:22:
For an early buy. Launch will be $72 CDN. That's way too much for any game, nevermind bare bones with the actual gameplay supposedly coming later on. I'd go $30, maybe even $40 with what I'm seeing and hearing, but double that? No way.

I am sure it will go on sale down the line, I personally have no issue paying more than retail price for this game as I am a big fan of it and by far the most entertainment I got from any games in the past 6 years, and it is still in beta!
But I understand everyone has their price range and reasons.

Kevin Lowe wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:28:

Cutter wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:30:
Yeah, see ya when this game gets down to a sane price.

Isn't this what gamers are always saying they want? A game tailored first and foremost to take advantage of their own platform? True expansions instead of DLCs? Broad control schemes instead of context buttons?

But now that someone does all that, in a genre long in need of a commercial revival, and charges an industry standard price, they're asking too much? Jesus, what do developers have to do to make you people happy?

Basically, if you take whatever cutter says and think of the exact opposite, that's reality. He's in his own little bubble, thankfully.

I'm definitely interested in buying this game, but there is simply no point to me in buying it now... so much stuff to play already, so much other good stuff coming out very soon, not enough time as it is. I'll wait until retail.

Keep testing this game though, people!

yeh i'll wait for feature complete.. give me time to get some hardware upgrades too

The price of the game is the least of your worries, you really need a HOTAS joystick setup, maybe not full on with rudder pedals but at least a joystick and throttle.

My preference is the CH products combat stick + throttle and rudder pedals, the CH throttle has a little joystick for your thumb that really comes in handy when doing micro thruster adjustments.

To round off the experience I would also highly recommend some form of TrackIR head tracking, the game supports six axis tracking so keep that in mind. Simple left right up and down tracking is only part way there. It just brings the game to life in a way that's hard to explain and it's actually helpful in a user interface sort of way as you can just move your head slightly left or right to get interface screens to pop up.

I'm sure you could play the game with just mouse and keyboard if you practiced long enough with it but personally I can't fly for shit without a joystick and throttle.

I've read that they plan for a 'Gamma' release phase after the Beta is over, they'll reset everyone back to square one at Gamma and again at Retail.

I'm liking the progress of this one. Unlike another PC space game that shall remain nameless.

Was this the game where if you buy into the beta, you still have to pay for the game when it comes out, minus some small discount? Or am I thinking of something else?

Bundy wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 14:11:
I'm liking the progress of this one. Unlike another PC space game that shall remain nameless.

Was this the game where if you buy into the beta, you still have to pay for the game when it comes out, minus some small discount? Or am I thinking of something else?

If you were a backer of the game on kickstarter you could opt in to testing Elite at various stages, the alpha was really expensive and the beta was something like an extra $25. If you buy the beta version for $75 that includes the retail version as well.

I just might do that. Thanks.

SpectralMeat wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:02:

nin wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:51:
My only gripe is them selling paint jobs. Is that new, or had it been there before and I just missed it?

Other than that, it's all good...

They've been selling those for a while now, and they are only cosmetics. I am sure they will have sales on packs of those or get them as rewards in game etc.
They don't bother me as much as the different ship variants for $100+ for that other space game

Imagine if they did what Valve does and created a marketplace where players could submit content, and the devs take a small cut from each sale. That would be amazing. The market is already there. They could even implement some kind of system that mirrors the existing in-game market that allows the price of things to fluctuate automatically based upon demand, should the content creator set it up that way, and only allow a certain number of the items to be allowed into the market, or something like that.

If you were a good enough artist/modeler/etc, you could easily make back the money you put into the game (and then some), while helping out the developers as well. Why haven't they done this already?

ForgedReality wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 15:08:

SpectralMeat wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:02:

nin wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 12:51:
My only gripe is them selling paint jobs. Is that new, or had it been there before and I just missed it?

Other than that, it's all good...

They've been selling those for a while now, and they are only cosmetics. I am sure they will have sales on packs of those or get them as rewards in game etc.
They don't bother me as much as the different ship variants for $100+ for that other space game

Imagine if they did what Valve does and created a marketplace where players could submit content, and the devs take a small cut from each sale. That would be amazing. The market is already there. They could even implement some kind of system that mirrors the existing in-game market that allows the price of things to fluctuate automatically based upon demand, should the content creator set it up that way, and only allow a certain number of the items to be allowed into the market, or something like that.

If you were a good enough artist/modeler/etc, you could easily make back the money you put into the game (and then some), while helping out the developers as well. Why haven't they done this already?

Maybe because noone suggested it to them yet?
Who knows, but it is a good idea.