New GeForce GPUs & Drivers [Sep 19, 2014, 09:05 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
New GTX 980 and 970 GPUs are now available from NVIDIA, and you can find an
introduction to the new hardware on
the GeForce website and there are evaluations from a bunch of sites in
today's hardware review section. To support the new cards, the
GeForce website now offers new WHQL-certified version 344.11 drivers, which
also add support for some new and upcoming games. Here's word: "The new
GeForce 344.11 WHQL drivers are now
available to download automatically through
GeForce Experience, and
from GeForce.com. These new drivers
give GeForce GTX owners the ultimate gaming experience in the latest blockbuster
titles, including Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, The Evil Within, F1 2014 and
Alien: Isolation, and add support for the brand new, Maxwell-powered
GeForce GTX 980 and
GeForce GTX 970, the world's most advanced graphics cards."
siapnar wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 16:17:Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 15:29:When are these prospected to come out?
I'd wait for the 20nm refresh but to each his own
I'm not sure nvidia has even talked about shrinking the process...
Yeah, but knowing Nvidia, they'll just release the 1080 and 1080ti for a long while. I'm not in that league.
Re: New GeForce GTX 980 & 970 GPUs & Drivers
Sep 19, 2014, 16:28
Sep 19, 2014, 16:28
Jamil20 wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 16:24:
So hard to decide if I should upgrade from a 770 to a 970. The performance increase is okay, but the TDP sweetens the deal. 230W->145W
If I were you, I'd wait until probably next year for the 20nm refresh. Hell, I've waited all this time with a 580, and it's definitely time, but a 770? You'll hardly notice.
So hard to decide if I should upgrade from a 770 to a 970. The performance increase is okay, but the TDP sweetens the deal. 230W->145W
Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 15:29:When are these prospected to come out?
I'd wait for the 20nm refresh but to each his own
NewMaxx wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 15:22:
The 970 is incredible...I find it mind-blowing that many review sites are saying "yeah it's good" or "not bad!"...what are they smoking? 145W TDP with 4GB stock, which is ridiculous, hitting (or exceeding) Titan performance at stock, and it's putting out +14% performance on Fire Strike with a moderate overclock. It's closing in on my 2x760 score and my cards use over double the wattage. As far as I'm concerned it cleans the table and is certainly my #1 suggestion for builds...I wish I had the money, I'd get two of them.
Those are also just reference cards btw. I never get reference cards, normally eVGA gets a hold of these and makes even faster and cooler running.
NewMaxx wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 15:22:
The 970 is incredible...I find it mind-blowing that many review sites are saying "yeah it's good" or "not bad!"...what are they smoking? 145W TDP with 4GB stock, which is ridiculous, hitting (or exceeding) Titan performance at stock, and it's putting out +14% performance on Fire Strike with a moderate overclock. It's closing in on my 2x760 score and my cards use over double the wattage. As far as I'm concerned it cleans the table and is certainly my #1 suggestion for builds...I wish I had the money, I'd get two of them.
Though i agree with you, I understand the reaction of reviewers. In terms of real world performance, its close to your 2x760 or my 2x670...overclocked 780 ti reviews from last year pretty much had the same performance in terms of fps but like you alluded to, there is more to performance reviews than raw fps.
The 970 is incredible...I find it mind-blowing that many review sites are saying "yeah it's good" or "not bad!"...what are they smoking?
GPU is only as useful as the games (or present lack thereof) it renders.
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There are certainly some niche scenarios at that resolution it makes sense for but I was speaking more generally. If I was gaming at 1080p I'd wait for the 20nm refresh but to each his own
Either way I'm very happy with the 970 and 980, great cards and the prices are surprisingly modest for Nvidia. 4k gaming for under $700, craziness.
Either way I'm very happy with the 970 and 980, great cards and the prices are surprisingly modest for Nvidia. 4k gaming for under $700, craziness.
Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:59:
Well I mean its up to you of course but you can get 60fps from a lesser card in most titles, especially if you back off Ultra settings/detail maxes. There are of course outlier titles so its hard to account for everything. In general 1080p isn't very demanding and I'm sure there will be a 960 at some point too for 1080p configs. This kind of card is better for a 1440p+ type setup IMO.
Your advice applies to novice or low end gamers. I don't agree with this for the more demanding 1080p gamers. For 1080p @ 120+hz we certainly need cards like these new ones. Also many people are sensitive to framerate dips so in their case a faster card makes a difference. Also people buy newer cards for upcoming games that will be much more demanding @ 1080p, especially at higher/est quality settings. 1080p can still be a good resolution for these high end cards!
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The 970 is incredible...I find it mind-blowing that many review sites are saying "yeah it's good" or "not bad!"...what are they smoking? 145W TDP with 4GB stock, which is ridiculous, hitting (or exceeding) Titan performance at stock, and it's putting out +14% performance on Fire Strike with a moderate overclock. It's closing in on my 2x760 score and my cards use over double the wattage. As far as I'm concerned it cleans the table and is certainly my #1 suggestion for builds...I wish I had the money, I'd get two of them.
Re: New GeForce GTX 980 & 970 GPUs & Drivers
Sep 19, 2014, 14:56
Sep 19, 2014, 14:56
Slick wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 14:53:ForgedReality wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 14:37:
Guys, what about this?
Gigabyte G1 SOC
looks nice, i wish you could achieve these temps in a "blower" fan config cause blowers are much better for SLI/xfire configs, i have a bunch of these 3x fan gigabyte 280x's and you can't xfire with them very well, the top one always gets way too hot, even when well-spaced and well ventilated.
i will be getting on of these, or waiting for possibly the evga aftermarket cooler. will not buy stock, as they've already shown that the 980 self-throttles to keep below 85 degrees. fuck that.
Of course, it costs considerably more than the reference design, and, of course, it's already sold out.
MSI 980 G1 on Amazon
I do like the two 8 pin connectors, leaving room for more voltage should you need it when you overclock beyond its factory overclock. This looks like the one to get for me, although, I also like Asus's offering.
This comment was edited on Sep 19, 2014, 15:09.
ForgedReality wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 14:37:
Guys, what about this?
Gigabyte G1 SOC
looks nice, i wish you could achieve these temps in a "blower" fan config cause blowers are much better for SLI/xfire configs, i have a bunch of these 3x fan gigabyte 280x's and you can't xfire with them very well, the top one always gets way too hot, even when well-spaced and well ventilated.
i will be getting on of these, or waiting for possibly the evga aftermarket cooler. will not buy stock, as they've already shown that the 980 self-throttles to keep below 85 degrees. fuck that.
Re: New GeForce GTX 980 & 970 GPUs & Drivers
Sep 19, 2014, 14:37
Sep 19, 2014, 14:37
I'm not ready for 4k yet, I'll wait for a die shrink that's suppose to hit next year.
This will probably be the entry level card needed to make VR actually playable since you need solid 60fps.
I second the recommendation of buying an Asus or MSI with higher end components and much quieter cooler than reference boards. I have an Asus and really like how quiet it is.
This will probably be the entry level card needed to make VR actually playable since you need solid 60fps.
I second the recommendation of buying an Asus or MSI with higher end components and much quieter cooler than reference boards. I have an Asus and really like how quiet it is.
ChandlerL wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:30:Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:28:
It's worth noting that the 970 has a lot of headroom for OCing too, a few sites already had it surpassing the 980 in some benches.
O.O
some sites are getting 1500+ MHz(!!!) on their 980 samples. I would guess the extreme OC versions with custom PCB's will break 1600. holy....
Slick wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 14:14:
fuck, they're all sold out on newegg and amazon prime. i waited too long!
anyone out there have a handle on a GTX 980 in stock at the MSRP of $550?
*edit found a couple zotacs.... hmmmm... zotac?
Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:59:I definitely buy with the future in mind, hence my card still being a 570
Some people prefer to spend a bundle up front and not have to worry about it for 4 years though so to each his own. I'm grabbing a 970 to OC and drive a 1440p config but if it was just my old 24" 1080p Dell then I would just wait a bit and see what else pops up.
You're right though, I'll wait to see if a 960 pops up... but > $400 for a top of the line GPU in the 970 sounds pretty great
fuck, they're all sold out on newegg and amazon. i waited too long!
anyone out there have a handle on a GTX 980 in stock?
*edit found a couple zotacs.... hmmmm... zotac?
anyone out there have a handle on a GTX 980 in stock?
*edit found a couple zotacs.... hmmmm... zotac?
Verno wrote on Sep 19, 2014, 13:59:I run at 1080p with at least 2xAA with a 570 but don't get 60fps in newer titles.
You're suggesting the 970 is an overkill upgrade?
Also, my MSI 570 OC runs pretty quiet until intense load. Might have to grab from MSI again
Well I mean its up to you of course but you can get 60fps from a lesser card in most titles, especially if you back off Ultra settings/detail maxes. There are of course outlier titles so its hard to account for everything. In general 1080p isn't very demanding and I'm sure there will be a 960 at some point too for 1080p configs. This kind of card is better for a 1440p+ type setup IMO.
Some people prefer to spend a bundle up front and not have to worry about it for 4 years though so to each his own. I'm grabbing a 970 to OC and drive a 1440p config but if it was just my old 24" 1080p Dell then I would just wait a bit and see what else pops up.
My biggest problem is a GTX 680 that only has 2GB VRAM. Honestly, 4GB will probably be an issue in a year or two as well. They should have released the cards with at least 6GB. I would be much better off if I had waited to purchase a 4GB 680, so perhaps my best course of action is to wait for a 6GB+ version of the 970 or 980.
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