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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 16:26
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 16:26
Sep 12, 2014, 16:26
 
Typical Microsoft MO.

We can't compete on product, so let's just throw hundreds of millions of dollars at people to FORCE them to use our product!

The amount of money Microsoft has, in essence, simply burned on bullshit like this over the years is staggering. It's well over a hundred billion dollars by now. They have the WORST marketing department in history.


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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 14:49
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 14:49
Sep 12, 2014, 14:49
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 13:14:
Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 01:23:
And you mean the market cap that places America's corporations as Exxon, Apple, and Google in that order? You mean that it only took them less than 10 years to crush what easily should have been Microsoft's #2 spot? Who doesn't know about market cap? Uh huh, keep derpim' away.

And what's the number 4 US publicly-held corporation by market cap? Microsoft. What was number 3 in the first quarter of this year? Microsoft. Also, Exxon is the number 2 US publicly held company by market cap; Apple has the number 1 spot. It's almost like these corporations move up and down in their relative rankings but all are in the same tier of competition!

I frankly don't give a shit who is the biggest corporation, but if you're going to make an asinine comment (Apple and Google don't do stupid stuff like Microsoft) and then support it with a metric that cannot be directly compared (stock price) then you need to be called on it. And if you're suddenly so concerned about market cap, then why two days ago were you quoting stock prices as if that had any meaning? It's almost like you had the stunning revelation that not all publicly held corporations have the same number of outstanding shares, subsequently googled "market cap", and are now backpedaling and shifting goal posts in a desperate attempt not to look like a jack ass.

lol, thank you for saving me the time in typing that out. I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 13:22
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 13:22
Sep 12, 2014, 13:22
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 13:14:
Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 01:23:
And you mean the market cap that places America's corporations as Exxon, Apple, and Google in that order? You mean that it only took them less than 10 years to crush what easily should have been Microsoft's #2 spot? Who doesn't know about market cap? Uh huh, keep derpim' away.

And what's the number 4 US publicly-held corporation by market cap? Microsoft. What was number 3 in the first quarter of this year? Microsoft. Also, Exxon is the number 2 US publicly held company by market cap; Apple has the number 1 spot. It's almost like these corporations move up and down in their relative rankings but all are in the same tier of competition!

I frankly don't give a shit who is the biggest corporation, but if you're going to make an asinine comment (Apple and Google don't do stupid stuff like Microsoft) and then support it with a metric that cannot be directly compared (stock price) then you need to be called on it. And if you're suddenly so concerned about market cap, then why two days ago were you quoting stock prices as if that had any meaning? It's almost like you had the stunning revelation that not all publicly held corporations have the same number of outstanding shares, subsequently googled "market cap", and are now backpedaling and shifting goal posts in a desperate attempt not to look like a jack ass.

Well, the goalpost is complaining about me, because I greatly enjoy calling him out on his drive-by idiocy. I have not ignored him, but it's amazing to see how often he says something condescendingly asinine, often from not reading more than the headline, then never returns when people correct is misconception. If he does, he usually doubles down.

In the thread with the quote I posted here, I asked him if he didn't understand how stock prices work, or if he simply felt that any company not valued higher than Google and Apple was de facto dumb. I suppose that logic makes his own company one of the dumbest on the planet.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 13:14
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 13:14
Sep 12, 2014, 13:14
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 01:23:
And you mean the market cap that places America's corporations as Exxon, Apple, and Google in that order? You mean that it only took them less than 10 years to crush what easily should have been Microsoft's #2 spot? Who doesn't know about market cap? Uh huh, keep derpim' away.

And what's the number 4 US publicly-held corporation by market cap? Microsoft. What was number 3 in the first quarter of this year? Microsoft. Also, Exxon is the number 2 US publicly held company by market cap; Apple has the number 1 spot. It's almost like these corporations move up and down in their relative rankings but all are in the same tier of competition!

I frankly don't give a shit who is the biggest corporation, but if you're going to make an asinine comment (Apple and Google don't do stupid stuff like Microsoft) and then support it with a metric that cannot be directly compared (stock price) then you need to be called on it. And if you're suddenly so concerned about market cap, then why two days ago were you quoting stock prices as if that had any meaning? It's almost like you had the stunning revelation that not all publicly held corporations have the same number of outstanding shares, subsequently googled "market cap", and are now backpedaling and shifting goal posts in a desperate attempt not to look like a jack ass.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 11:15
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 11:15
Sep 12, 2014, 11:15
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 01:23:
I keep trolls like Beamer on ignore and so should everyone else.

No. And that is about the only comment that irks me is when someone tells the crowd who they should or shouldn't ignore. I have no one on ignore fwiw. We all have shithead posts and others that aren't so bad, probably a case to be made we should all be put on ignore.

NFL must also laugh non-stop when someone pays them $400 million to take and use their hardware. Really where is the ROI on this? First they are being called ipads and if not we don't even hear or know about it publicly. How do they see this 400 million dollar offer to give sidelines Surfaces, that this will spur millions of fans to go buy one and millions will have to buy one now just to make that money back.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 10:38
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 10:38
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Reading the brand article a bit... nothing seems that weird given Microsoft's direction these days.

The "Nokia" brand isn't their property. They have to drop that name. Microsoft bought Nokia's mobile division, but Nokia is still a separate company.

"Windows Phone" is being replaced with "Windows" because Microsoft's been trying to blur the line between mobile and desktop versions of their OS for some time now. How successful they've been is a totally different matter; that's the goal.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 09:26
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 09:26
Sep 12, 2014, 09:26
 
Darks wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 09:05:
Cutter wrote on Sep 11, 2014, 19:47:
Lol at MS stupidity. Simply boggles the mind. If they hadn't lucked out with Windows this company would not exist today.


That is about as stupid of a quote as I've ever read.

The same thing could be said about hundreds if not thousands of other companies dude.

Intel ring a bell? AMD?

The list can go on and on.


So you don't get it and that makes it stupid. Agrgag got it. Yeah, everyone else is stupid, not you. Rolleyes
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 09:05
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 09:05
Sep 12, 2014, 09:05
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 11, 2014, 19:47:
Lol at MS stupidity. Simply boggles the mind. If they hadn't lucked out with Windows this company would not exist today.


That is about as stupid of a quote as I've ever read.

The same thing could be said about hundreds if not thousands of other companies dude.

Intel ring a bell? AMD?

The list can go on and on.

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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 07:18
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 07:18
Sep 12, 2014, 07:18
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 01:23:
I keep trolls like Beamer on ignore and so should everyone else.

If we followed that logic then no one would see your posts.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 06:50
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 06:50
Sep 12, 2014, 06:50
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 11, 2014, 19:47:
Lol at MS stupidity. Simply boggles the mind. If they hadn't lucked out with Windows this company would not exist today.

DOS was their lucky break, not Windows... Specifically, Gary Kildall dropping the ball and failing to license CP/M to IBM for the PC, and MS managing to find and buy a crappy clone hastily renamed to DOS that they could license to IBM... After that, it was all coasting for them!
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 03:07
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 03:07
Sep 12, 2014, 03:07
 
So is that how it works nowadays? If you don't like what someone has to say you just call him a troll and basically try to kill all discussion because you don't want to admit you're wrong?
Now we donce.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 01:23
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 01:23
Sep 12, 2014, 01:23
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 12, 2014, 00:57:
Beamer wrote on Sep 11, 2014, 20:05:
It's a shame Cutter never reads any responses to how wrong he is, as we never got him to clarify this boneheaded comment:
Cutter wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 20:00:
The Pyro wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 19:23:
For reference, Microsoft is currently the 3rd largest company in the world with a market capitalization of $340 billion. They have 100,000 employees. This offer puts the value of Mojang at almost 1% of that... an indie game being valued at almost 1% of the dominant business software company on the planet!

It's ridiculous.

But of course this isn't real money, here... it's inflated shares of stock. If you try to cash out all at once then you destroy the value of your stock in the process. You still end up filthy rich, of course...

MS Stock? 50 bucks a share.

Apple? $100. Google? $600. Why? Because they don't do dumb stuff like this.

Silly Beamer! Don't you know that all publicly traded corporations have exactly the same number of shares on the market? It's totally an apples-to-apples comparison! No one even knows what market capitalization is anyway!


I keep trolls like Beamer on ignore and so should everyone else. And you mean the market cap that places America's corporations as Exxon, Apple, and Google in that order? You mean that it only took them less than 10 years to crush what easily should have been Microsoft's #2 spot? Who doesn't know about market cap? Uh huh, keep derpim' away.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 12, 2014, 00:57
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 12, 2014, 00:57
Sep 12, 2014, 00:57
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 11, 2014, 20:05:
It's a shame Cutter never reads any responses to how wrong he is, as we never got him to clarify this boneheaded comment:
Cutter wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 20:00:
The Pyro wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 19:23:
For reference, Microsoft is currently the 3rd largest company in the world with a market capitalization of $340 billion. They have 100,000 employees. This offer puts the value of Mojang at almost 1% of that... an indie game being valued at almost 1% of the dominant business software company on the planet!

It's ridiculous.

But of course this isn't real money, here... it's inflated shares of stock. If you try to cash out all at once then you destroy the value of your stock in the process. You still end up filthy rich, of course...

MS Stock? 50 bucks a share.

Apple? $100. Google? $600. Why? Because they don't do dumb stuff like this.

Silly Beamer! Don't you know that all publicly traded corporations have exactly the same number of shares on the market? It's totally an apples-to-apples comparison! No one even knows what market capitalization is anyway!

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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 11, 2014, 22:38
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 11, 2014, 22:38
Sep 11, 2014, 22:38
 
This happened:

Microsoft Paid NFL $400 Million To Use Surface, But Announcers Call Them iPads.

So M$ responds by doing this?

Microsoft to drop Nokia and Windows Phone brands.
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Re: Microsoft Paid NFL $400 Million To Use Surface, But Announcers Call Them iPads
Sep 11, 2014, 22:37
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Re: Microsoft Paid NFL $400 Million To Use Surface, But Announcers Call Them iPads Sep 11, 2014, 22:37
Sep 11, 2014, 22:37
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Sep 11, 2014, 19:24:
HAHA Awesome!

Yup, shit like that happens when you're playing catchup instead of innovating.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 11, 2014, 20:38
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 11, 2014, 20:38
Sep 11, 2014, 20:38
 
They would do better not putting the Microsoft name on it at all. Just spin off that and Xbox already.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 11, 2014, 20:05
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 11, 2014, 20:05
Sep 11, 2014, 20:05
 
It's a shame Cutter never reads any responses to how wrong he is, as we never got him to clarify this boneheaded comment:
Cutter wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 20:00:
The Pyro wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 19:23:
For reference, Microsoft is currently the 3rd largest company in the world with a market capitalization of $340 billion. They have 100,000 employees. This offer puts the value of Mojang at almost 1% of that... an indie game being valued at almost 1% of the dominant business software company on the planet!

It's ridiculous.

But of course this isn't real money, here... it's inflated shares of stock. If you try to cash out all at once then you destroy the value of your stock in the process. You still end up filthy rich, of course...

MS Stock? 50 bucks a share.

Apple? $100. Google? $600. Why? Because they don't do dumb stuff like this.
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 11, 2014, 19:47
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 11, 2014, 19:47
Sep 11, 2014, 19:47
 
Lol at MS stupidity. Simply boggles the mind. If they hadn't lucked out with Windows this company would not exist today.

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Re: Microsoft Paid NFL $400 Million To Use Surface, But Announcers Call Them iPads
Sep 11, 2014, 19:24
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Re: Microsoft Paid NFL $400 Million To Use Surface, But Announcers Call Them iPads Sep 11, 2014, 19:24
Sep 11, 2014, 19:24
 
HAHA Awesome!
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Re: Evening Mobilization
Sep 11, 2014, 19:22
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Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 11, 2014, 19:22
Sep 11, 2014, 19:22
 
Lol iPads
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