Op Ed

Total Biscuit - Why you shouldn't be excited - A look at games media's role in hype. Thanks Ant via HARDOCP.
TotalBiscuit brings you a discussion video on the games media's involvement in hype campaigns for unreleased or in-development titles and the negative impact it has on the industry.

Rock, Paper, Shotgun - Videogames Are For Everybody. Thanks nin.
There has been criticism, too, which has resulted in gamers claiming that we hate them. We don’t hate gamers. We are gamers. Numerous (often offensive and widely incoherent) attempts to provoke controversy and scandal about the relationship between game developers and the games press have resulted in some people saying that RPS should be destroyed. Perhaps unsurprisingly, we disagree with that proposition, and we’ll explain why we disagree in this article.

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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:31
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:31
Sep 15, 2014, 13:31
 
MadMax, what is your problem? I'm trying to figure out what the misunderstanding here is, why can't you answer a simple question? You are seemingly hell bent on lumping me into some "defender of idiot journalists" category and automatically dismissing any attempt at a clarification as dishonest. This is not a position ANY of my posts have taken, yet you seem to think i'm trying to defend that position.

Do you even realize that you are acting exactly like the people you are so desperately trying to demonize?

Hell, I didn't even disagree with your response to my first post, I merely took offense to it's overall tone. You're just flying off the rails for literally no reason.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:19
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:19
Sep 15, 2014, 13:19
 
descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 13:17:
I obviously think you misread my original post, but you seem to have no interest in honest discussion about it.

The scary thing is you think your replies in this thread were honest.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:17
Verno
 
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:17
Sep 15, 2014, 13:17
 Verno
 
You start off with "who cares" in a topic where people obviously care. You try to dismiss her being exposed which is actually pretty important to the overall conversation. Then you go off about people using the term "SJW" and the etc about Social Justice - yes I do think there are bad ways to go about getting "social justice" by the way and this thread is a perfect example of several. Finally you top it off by accusing the site at large of stereotyping anyone with an opinion when you just did the same.

So yeah I can see why people would have a problem with that, especially in the larger context of this discussion in which you are participating even though you don't seem to think so.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:17
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:17
Sep 15, 2014, 13:17
 
Again, what are you talking about? I'm just trying to understand what you are complaining about, asking a simple question... but you "get defensive" and apparently can't answer it? I obviously think you misread my original post, but you seem to have no interest in honest discussion about it.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:14
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:14
Sep 15, 2014, 13:14
 
descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 13:13:
What are you even talking about?

The trend around here of stereotyping anyone with an opinion that even remotely sways from the white male dominated society we live in... really just makes you look ignorant.

That's what I said. Are you... denying the fact that we live in a white male dominated society? I really don't understand what your beef is with that sentence, other than that you saw the words "white male" and your brain glazed over. Do you think "you" refers to you? Or are you feeling guilty that it might? I don't get it.

See you're trying to get us on the defensive to kill the discussion. It doesn't work with me. Try it somewhere else.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:13
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:13
Sep 15, 2014, 13:13
 
What are you even talking about?

The trend around here of stereotyping anyone with an opinion that even remotely sways from the white male dominated society we live in... really just makes you look ignorant.

That's what I said. Are you... denying the fact that we live in a white male dominated society? I really don't understand what your beef is with that sentence, other than that you saw the words "white male" and your brain glazed over. Do you think "you" refers to you? Or are you feeling guilty that it might? I don't get it.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:10
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:10
Sep 15, 2014, 13:10
 
descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 13:05:
Verno... How can you have 15k posts here and not know that there is a threaded view to these discussions?

And I can safely assume you don't care about any of that since your mention of a "white male dominated society", a typical deflection term used by ignorant cowards.

This is the response I get from my OP (which was directed at exactly no one in this thread), and I'm the one bullying here.

You tried to steer the discussion to something about a "white male dominated society", which is exactly the kind of cowardly hypocrisy we're sick of. It has nothing to do with the topic except it being one of the many terms defenders of Zoe Quinn and her ilk repeatedly try and fail to throw out there as a distraction. So, are you one of those people? Are you a coward?
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:08
Verno
 
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:08
Sep 15, 2014, 13:08
 Verno
 
descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 13:05:
Verno... How can you have 15k posts here and not know that there is a threaded view to these discussions?

It's not the default and you can't assume that other people will believe you're "starting a new thread" just because you selected a different way to display it. For practical purposes this is a single discussion so when you respond, people will likely assume you're responding to the overall discussion and not starting an entirely new one.

This is the response I get from my OP (which was directed at exactly no one in this thread), and I'm the one bullying here.

Your initial post sucked to be honest, go back and read it. It was very one sided and you made a bunch of vague assumptions/accusations.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:05
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:05
Sep 15, 2014, 13:05
 
What we're sick of is hypocrisy and being attacked

The irony here is palpable. My OP doesn't even disagree with your position on any of this, but you came out swinging regardless.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 13:05
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 13:05
Sep 15, 2014, 13:05
 
Verno... How can you have 15k posts here and not know that there is a threaded view to these discussions?

And I can safely assume you don't care about any of that since your mention of a "white male dominated society", a typical deflection term used by ignorant cowards.

This is the response I get from my OP (which was directed at exactly no one in this thread), and I'm the one bullying here.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:59
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:59
Sep 15, 2014, 12:59
 
Now you're being disingenuous. Most people here do support equality. There's really only one person who fits your description *cough*Cutter*cough* and pretty much everyone has him on ignore. What we're sick of is hypocrisy and being attacked for daring to point it out or disagree with people whose intentions are far from good. Again, you did say "I just don't fucking care" so no explanation will matter.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:55
Verno
 
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:55
Sep 15, 2014, 12:55
 Verno
 
descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 12:45:
I purposely started a new thread and did NOT respond to anyone else so that context was NOT an issue. A thread which he decided to respond to in an extremely hypocritical and ironic way.

This is a single discussion thread, no idea what you're talking about.

Am I the only one that sees how anyone that defends equality or feminism AROUND HERE (i'm not talking about this gamergate nonsense, I'm talking about the uncivil way people converse on THIS website) is blanket-dismissed as "just another SJW who obviously is lying about even caring about the topic at hand"?

I don't see much of that to be honest, I think maybe you're seeing what you want to see. I see people expressing a healthy skepticism about public figures who had dubious motives, lo and behold they were right. Blue usually clamps down discussions that go too far. The few odd instances of it happening are offset by the people who are clearly pushing their own personal agenda and insinuating that others are sexist for not agreeing with them.

You kinda bulled into this thread and start throwing around labels too so complaining about it after the fact falls on deaf ears to me.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:45
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:45
Sep 15, 2014, 12:45
 
I purposely started a new thread and did NOT respond to anyone else so that context was NOT an issue. A thread which he decided to respond to in an extremely hypocritical and ironic way.

Am I the only one that sees how anyone that defends equality or feminism AROUND HERE (i'm not talking about this gamergate nonsense, I'm talking about the uncivil way people converse on THIS website) is blanket-dismissed as "just another SJW who obviously is lying about even caring about the topic at hand"?

I guess it's just me.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:35
Verno
 
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:35
Sep 15, 2014, 12:35
 Verno
 
descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 12:04:
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm trying to understand why you seem to care so much.

Bully much? Get over yourself.

I don't know, you seem to have waded in here and completely ignored all context, made a series of blanket statements then accused the community here of being resistant to change. Some introspection on your part is appropriate IMO.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:24
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:24
Sep 15, 2014, 12:24
 
See you're doing it right now and you aren't even aware of it! It's almost magical to watch.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:23
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:23
Sep 15, 2014, 12:23
 
Your blanket dismissal of everything Beamer posts is exactly the kind of ignorant, bully-ish attitude that needs to be squashed around here.

Here's some free advice: learn how to talk to people without coming across like... you do.

the hypocrites who routinely hide behind it to bully those with differing opinions

Those were your words. Try taking your own advice.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:19
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:19
Sep 15, 2014, 12:19
 
It's pretty clear you are another Beamer-lite, feeling threatened because your false ideology is being exposed in a very big way. So right now you are trying to get me on the defensive. It's an old tired tactic and I see right through your act. Here's some free advice: leave the topic now.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:13
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:13
Sep 15, 2014, 12:13
 
It's unfortunate that you have the reading comprehension of a 3 year old.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:07
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:07
Sep 15, 2014, 12:07
 
I'll quote you again and see if it gets through because no explanation will ever satisfy you:

descender wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 00:43:
I just don't fucking care.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and get over yourself.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 15, 2014, 12:04
Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 12:04
Sep 15, 2014, 12:04
 
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm trying to understand why you seem to care so much.

Bully much? Get over yourself.
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