Blue wrote on Aug 25, 2014, 10:58:

Ant wrote on Aug 25, 2014, 10:46:
Did BN ever get DDoSed?

Well, yes and no. We were not the targets (AFAIK), but we were victims of one of the original DOS attacks on the Internet when the site was still on Panix.com, as Panix suffered a massive attack in late 1996 that prompted us to move to our own domain. Panix was apparently targeted due to their activism on behalf of the EFF.

Found an article on it. According to Cisco, this was *the* original denial of service:

The first DoS attack occurred against Panix, the New York City area's oldest and largest Internet Service Provider (ISP), on September 6, 1996, at about 5:30 p.m. [14]. The attack was against different computers on the provider's network, including mail, news, and Web servers, user "login" machines, and name servers. The Panix attack was a SYN Flood attack deriving from random IP addresses and directed toward server Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) ports. More specifically, Panix's computers were flooded by, on average, 150 SYN packets per second (50 per host), so Panix could not respond to legitimate requests [15]. Because the attackers used spoofed source IP addresses intraffic their packets, the addresses could not be traced and malicious could not be filtered. For that reason the attack was not immediately confronted. The solution was to use a special structure, instead of full Transmission Control Block (TCB), to hold half-open connections until the last ACK packet was received. In that way, the listen queue was large enough to keep all the SYN requests before the half-open connection timed out. The timeout, on the other hand, was adjusted to 94 seconds [16]. However, although Panix overcame this attack, the new threat (DoS attacks) made administrators worry.

Ah, thanks.

Ant wrote on Aug 25, 2014, 10:46:
Did BN ever get DDoSed?

Well, yes and no. We were not the targets (AFAIK), but we were victims of one of the original DOS attacks on the Internet when the site was still on Panix.com, as Panix suffered a massive attack in late 1996 that prompted us to move to our own domain. Panix was apparently targeted due to their activism on behalf of the EFF.

Found an article on it. According to Cisco, this was *the* original denial of service:

The first DoS attack occurred against Panix, the New York City area's oldest and largest Internet Service Provider (ISP), on September 6, 1996, at about 5:30 p.m. [14]. The attack was against different computers on the provider's network, including mail, news, and Web servers, user "login" machines, and name servers. The Panix attack was a SYN Flood attack deriving from random IP addresses and directed toward server Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) ports. More specifically, Panix's computers were flooded by, on average, 150 SYN packets per second (50 per host), so Panix could not respond to legitimate requests [15]. Because the attackers used spoofed source IP addresses intraffic their packets, the addresses could not be traced and malicious could not be filtered. For that reason the attack was not immediately confronted. The solution was to use a special structure, instead of full Transmission Control Block (TCB), to hold half-open connections until the last ACK packet was received. In that way, the listen queue was large enough to keep all the SYN requests before the half-open connection timed out. The timeout, on the other hand, was adjusted to 94 seconds [16]. However, although Panix overcame this attack, the new threat (DoS attacks) made administrators worry.

Did BN ever get DDoSed?

Well this attack maybe for the greater good.

Task wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:05:
If anything republicans/fundamentalists should be sent to fight with IS, not hackers.

FTFY. Let's be honest, you don't really think we're fighting with their liberals, do you? Get rid of the real problem.

Iurand wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 16:10:
What if it's ISIS scum?

Dammit, Archer.

NKD wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 18:12:

Creston wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:36:
And why would you target things like LoL or GW2, two games made by companies who are extremely player-friendly, and who follow a laudible business model?

They aren't targeting the company. They are targeting the players. These guys basically thrive on the attention they get from "bringing down your favorite game."

When Wildstar and some other games were being DDOS'd a few weeks ago, the guy who was doing it was bragging and acting like a fucktard on some stolen Twitter account.

Awesome...

Tjold wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:20:
Who the fuck goes around packeting MMOs?
And, like, why?

Eve has had this problem for years. Eve does have a significant Russian population, which definitely adds to some botnet accessibility, but it also just has a strong powergamer populace and there is really a lot of realworld money at stake. I mean, Titan's are almost worth $10k USD(or they were when I last played at least).

WoW has had problems too several times the past couple of weeks. Servers went down for about 30-45mins twice this week.

Tjold wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:20:
Who the fuck goes around packeting MMOs?
And, like, why?

To find and exploit vulnerabilities in the systems for a variety of purposes, including but not limited to hacking accounts and designing cheats. It's actually a substantial trade in Asia (read: Russia and China), criminals sell rolled-up information like that the same way US banks trade mortgages. Botnets are directly attached to this, of course.

Check this out:
http://betanews.com/2014/08/20/business-feud-ddos-attack-lasts-for-38-days/

Interesting that they call it a "business feud," yet somehow the system came online just ONE DAY before the attacks began and just happened to have sufficient capacity to handle it.

I won't go into my theory about how corporations are taking over the role that states have since abandoned (through progression and evolution) but simply put, there's more than meets the eye going on in cyberland these days.

Tjold wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:20:
Who the fuck goes around packeting MMOs?
And, like, why?

It used to be script kids but these days anyone can just rent a botnet and do it so honestly, it could be fucking anyone.

GW2 at least there was a fairly recent community uproar over lack of communication but it settled down pretty rapidly. As to the other MMOGs, I'm not sure who has a beef.

This comment was edited on Aug 23, 2014, 02:06.

Tjold wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:20:
Who the fuck goes around packeting MMOs?
And, like, why?

Perhaps to try and pirate them?

Creston wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:36:
And why would you target things like LoL or GW2, two games made by companies who are extremely player-friendly, and who follow a laudible business model?

They aren't targeting the company. They are targeting the players. These guys basically thrive on the attention they get from "bringing down your favorite game."

When Wildstar and some other games were being DDOS'd a few weeks ago, the guy who was doing it was bragging and acting like a fucktard on some stolen Twitter account.

And why would you target things like LoL or GW2, two games made by companies who are extremely player-friendly, and who follow a laudible business model?

Who the fuck goes around packeting MMOs?
And, like, why?

Hackers don't kill people though, but radical groups trained and funded by the U.S./Saudi/Israel axis do. If anything demos/repub politicians should be sent to fight with IS, not hackers.

Inevitably though hacking and all that will always continue as the digital age advances for better or worse. Some people just like to watch the world burn.

Iurand wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 16:10:
What if it's ISIS scum?

http://youtu.be/kqtOQVoDG9s

What if it's ISIS scum?

i don't know about you, but i am all for catching the scum that do this stuff and turning them over to ISIS.